Sink hole anyone

[Gaspar]

In Missouri they get paid for the job plus a huge bonus/penalty structure for speed.  I've seen them widen a mile of street overnight (they also get paid more for working at night and clearing the cones for daytime traffic).

[Townsend]

In Missouri they get paid for the job plus a huge bonus/penalty structure for speed.  I've seen them widen a mile of street overnight (they also get paid more for working at night and clearing the cones for daytime traffic).

Same in OK. 

One of the companies just recently was working on two projects.  They removed the men on the 81st and Yale location to work on the other location West of town to complete it quickly.  They made the bonus for speed on the the West location and then when they fell behind on the 81st location they blamed it on surprise utilities that just popped up and asked to have the fines waived.

[Gaspar]

I have a fun game I like to play.  Those orange drums are about $40 each.  $15 extra with the light.  When I drive by a large road project I like to count and multiply by $55.

I bet Tulsa has a few million dollars tied up in those.

[Breadburner]

I have a fun game I like to play.  Those orange drums are about $40 each.  $15 extra with the light.  When I drive by a large road project I like to count and multiply by $55.

I bet Tulsa has a few million dollars tied up in those.

Those are leased by the contractors.....

[waterboy]

Ahhh...the lovely irony. Guys in offices, posting on company time, on company computers, while their secretaries are actually doing most of their work, complaining about guys in hard hats leaning on shovels waiting for their task to be performed.

Any of you jamokes ever do concrete work? Each of those guys has a separate task that requires their particular skill or education at a particular time. Some of them are engineers who are checking the quality of the product, the temperature and other criteria to judge drying time and strength. Some of them were likely inspectors. I imagine some of them were sent to figure out what exactly happened and who was responsible. A few of them were likely waiting to clean up tools. Most likely one was the driver of the cement truck. By the time that pic was taken a lot of hard work had taken place just to make it ready for pouring.

You saw a picture that fit a pre-concieved myth and gleefully used your wit and company assets to make fun. But it was funny.

[Red Arrow]

I've operated a shovel. I won't deny those guys a break.

[shadows]

One could believe that the work was being preformed  under  emergency repair that is on a cost plus basis.  The more specialists that are on the job waiting for their time to perform their special job increases the final profit to the chosen  contractor.

In the final bottom line the kingdom of the orange barrels could be contributed to a city of 300,000 people raising millions of dollars to elect a strong mayor.

[rwarn17588]

I've operated a shovel. I won't deny those guys a break.

+1

(Especially after literally digging out a ditch a few days ago ...)

[waterboy]

One could believe that the work was being preformed  under  emergency repair that is on a cost plus basis.  The more specialists that are on the job waiting for their time to perform their special job increases the final profit to the chosen  contractor.

In the final bottom line the kingdom of the orange barrels could be contributed to a city of 300,000 people raising millions of dollars to elect a strong mayor.

Usual nonsense. Perhaps you would prefer they eliminated the engineers, the testing and the inspectors and do it on a Monday-Friday, 8:00am-4:30pm timetable?

[shadows]

+1

(Especially after literally digging out a ditch a few days ago ...)

Those miles of orange barrels I assumed were the orange barrel stand-ins for those who were going to show up and do some work in the future.  The orange barrel cost only about ½ as much as workers making the minimum wage.

Reminds me when they barricaded the intersection at 41st and Lynn Lane Road causing a three mile detour for three weeks.  No work was being done so I walked down to the intersection where a police women was writing tickets to those who drove around the barricade.   A contractor drove up and I ask him how long would it take to fix the road.  He said one day.  I ask him if the intersection needed to be closed for the previous three weeks.  His answer was no, but PW wanted to get the citizens that used the road to be aware it was to be closed for a day.

[shadows]

Usual nonsense. Perhaps you would prefer they eliminated the engineers, the testing and the inspectors and do it on a Monday-Friday, 8:00am-4:30pm timetable?

With all those high priced inspectors and supervisor the road fell in because of the underlay supporting the the roadway. On the job training incomplete?

[waterboy]

With all those high priced inspectors and supervisor the road fell in because of the underlay supporting the the roadway. On the job training incomplete?

Not exactly accurate. My understanding is that the water pipes crisscrossing under the roadway had been damaged earlier. This caused erosion of the bed and the collapse of the road. The road wasn't intended to span a sinkhole. Wouldn't have mattered how well inspected the roadway was.

Why do people like you hate laborers so much? We have become a society that belittles physical labor and it does us no good.

[shadows]

Not exactly accurate. My understanding is that the water pipes crisscrossing under the roadway had been damaged earlier. This caused erosion of the bed and the collapse of the road. The road wasn't intended to span a sinkhole. Wouldn't have mattered how well inspected the roadway was.

Why do people like you hate laborers so much? We have become a society that belittles physical labor and it does us no good.

Why do you catalogue one as being anti-labor when they are pointing out the struggling of the working poor?  My heart bleeds for those on SS who has seen the food price increase more than 20% in the last two years while they have not had a COL increase.   Think of the children where over 25% require food stamps to be able to eat.  Who is being robbed when they are assessed $15,000 a month to pay single city employees? 

Back to the sink hole and such noble justification for the roadway sinking because core drilling was not made and precautions taken as the city in undermined with sub surface prior mining voids.  It could be only a short time until Tulsa joins the ghost town of Pitcher.