News:

Long overdue maintenance happening. See post in the top forum.

Main Menu

Recycling Kiosks

Started by DolfanBob, July 08, 2010, 04:18:33 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

nathanm

Quote from: OpenYourEyesTulsa on July 09, 2010, 06:26:45 PM
I don't think it is right that I have to pay the same as my neighbors with 18 kids that trash everything when I am 1 guy that recycles 80% or more of my trash.
I agree with the sentiment. We could get away with trash service every other week most of the time, and I'm not even that good about recycling. But we do get a discount, since we use little enough water that we get charged the low generator rate.

I'm all for limiting the amount of trash that one gets to set out for the initial fee, but I don't really like a per pound charge. Not only is volume more important than weight when it comes to trash, it's just a nightmare to deal with. I'd like to see the city go to cart service citywide. If you can use the regular cart, great. If not, you get to pay extra for a bigger one. If that's still not big enough, then you get into paying for special bags. It's just much more practical to have broad classes of service than a literal per pound charge.

I do find it funny when people get recycling bins for no charge and refuse to use them. A friend of mine over in Arkansas refuses to use his new recycling bin. I laugh at him. It's not as if it's any harder to rinse a soda can or whatever and toss it in the bin than it is to throw it in the trash can.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

sauerkraut

#16
I don't recycle, it's more hassle than it's worth, it costs  money to recycle, and  "going green" is not cheap everything about it is expensive. Some states like Michigan, Iowa, have a deposit on soft drink cans "N' bottles of 5 cents and 10 cents that you get back when you return the empty bottle, it's alot of hassle it's supposed to prevent bottle trash more than recycling. BTW I heard a interesting way to make electric cars go long distances, what you have is "battery exchange stations"- the station has batteries on charger racks and you "fill up" by putting your worn battey on the charger and taking a fresh charged battery from the rack and going on to the next battery exchange charge station when your battery runs low and  you'll be charged only for the cost of the electric used to charge the battery. The problems with it though is that in time you'll have millions of worn out used up batteries full of toxic chemicals that need to be disposed of. The article about battery exchange stations was in a issue  "Popular Science" Mag.
Proud Global  Warming Deiner! Earth Is Getting Colder NOT Warmer!

Townsend

Jesus Christ kraut, if you're real, you're a freaking idiot.  Over.

custosnox

Actually the battery exchange station is not a system where you just toss out your battery and put in a new one by hand.  It is actually a system that you drive up on and it automatically changes the battery. The depleted battery is then recharged and put into stock to be placed in the next car.  Please try actually reading the article instead of glancing at it.  Hell, if you would have read the discrption that goes with the graphic on the article you would have more of an idea what was going on with it.  I'll let eveyone else explain how idiotic your comments on recycling is not worth it are.

Hoss

Quote from: Townsend on July 10, 2010, 03:49:06 PM
Jesus Christ kraut, if you're real, you're a freaking idiot.  Over.

+ eleventybillion

RecycleMichael

I respectfully disagree with you saurkraut.

Recycling saves money, especially if you factor in avoided costs like landfill fees and long-term monitoring and closure. In Tulsa even the customers are charged less. The City of Tulsa charges $1.70 every time the trash truck comes to your curb and only $.92 every time the recycle truck comes to your curb.

Recycling saves energy. A single pop can recycled saves enough energy to run your TV set for three hours.

Recycling creates jobs. I employ over a hundred workers with disabilities and Oklahoma has over 5,000 jobs in manufacturing of companies that use recycled materials as feed stock.

Then there is that whole argument about collecting natural resources. I wish we would be less reliant on virgin oil and more on using recycled plastic to make new plastics. Maybe we could have avoided a spill or two. You can also look to Tar Creek superfund site in Oklahoma as to the long term effect of mining metals out of the ground instead of using recycled metals. And don't forget logging to make simple paper instead of making it from recycled paper.

As to your comment to the electric car...I actually own one. I would love a system that exchanged batteries as needed while traveling. My car can run about twenty five miles on a full charge and it takes about two hours to fully recharge when power is low.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Hoss

Quote from: sauerkraut on July 10, 2010, 03:14:20 PM
.... The article about battery exchange stations was in a issue  "Popular Science" Mag.

Knowing you, likely it was Issue 1

custosnox

Quote from: Hoss on July 10, 2010, 08:41:18 PM
Knowing you, likely it was Issue 1
heh, actually it was within about the last year, give or take.  It was an eco themed issue with a lot of concept designs, which this was one of. While a pretty good idea, I don't really see it taking off, at least any time soon.  If you really want to know, I still have it, I just have to look through them and find the right one.

dbacks fan

Quote from: Townsend on July 10, 2010, 03:49:06 PM
Jesus Christ kraut, if you're real, you're a freaking idiot.  Over.

Actually, he has his head so far up a certain part of his anatomy he can watch while he flosses his teeth.