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2011 Blizzard: How are the roads downtown?

Started by AngieB, February 02, 2011, 05:55:42 PM

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Salukipoke

Most recent reference I can find regarding lane miles in Rockford is from this recent article about how well they managed snow removal:

http://www.rrstar.com/carousel/x1916611052/Our-View-Thanks-to-heroes-of-the-storm

From the article:

It seemed like a well-choreographed dance of heavy equipment — because it was. Readers of rrstar.com saw photos of solemn-looking plow drivers, meeting at the city yards before they headed out into the storm. Details matter when you are driving 1,500 "lane-miles" of roads in the city, maneuvering a multi-ton piece of equipment in whiteout conditions.

And there's this from last year:

http://www.rrstar.com/carousel/x1689195030/Roads-slippery-worst-yet-to-come

From the article:

By noon today, 5 to 6 inches of snow fell over the city, home to 1,500 miles of road. About 30 percent of the city's roads are arterials and collectors. The rest are residential streets.


swake

From the city of Tulsa website:

Streets and Expressways
Expressways - 465 Lane Miles
Arterial Streets - 1,249 Lane Miles
Residential Streets - 3,040 Lane Miles
Central Business District - 93 Lane Miles
Signalized Intersections - 491
(includes school crossings)

Tulsa has almost 5,000 lane miles in streets, and has over 1,800 lane miles of downtown streets, expressways and arterials alone, which they did plow. Not very well, but they did do it.


Salukipoke

Quote from: swake on February 11, 2011, 01:42:59 PM
From the city of Tulsa website:

Streets and Expressways
Expressways - 465 Lane Miles
Arterial Streets - 1,249 Lane Miles
Residential Streets - 3,040 Lane Miles
Central Business District - 93 Lane Miles
Signalized Intersections - 491
(includes school crossings)

Tulsa has almost 5,000 lane miles in streets, and has over 1,800 lane miles of downtown streets, expressways and arterials alone, which they did plow. Not very well, but they did do it.



I was listening to Dewey the other day and he simply stated Tulsa has 57 pieces of equipment used for plowing snow.  5 of which are typically off the streets and in for repairs.  He also said Tulsa has 1770 lane miles of roads to be plowed.

I'm going to take this in one of two ways... maybe Tulsa does have 5,000 lane miles in total (the city isn't responsible for expressways); they only take care of 1,770 of them.  Or, the 1770 lane miles he was referring to were the ones in downtown and midtown and hence, he's unaware of any others out there.  ;)

Either way, bottom line; I'll cut the city some slack when it comes to sleet and ice, those are tough to deal with, but when it comes to snow, it's not this hard.

Salukipoke

Upon further review, my initial thought was prolly correct:

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/news/news-stories/2011/weatherupdate2-4-11.aspx

Street Update
Public Works crews are continuing to focus on the arterial street systems, streets near schools and downtown so roads are passable. Crews have plowed all major arterials and put salt down on bridges and plowed streets to help when temperatures drop. City of Tulsa Public Works street crews are remaining on 12-hour shifts. The City of Tulsa still has 7,000 tons of salt remaining in the City's two street maintenance yards. Public Works has been working with the following equipment for snow removal and will continue the process around the clock with:

•55 truck-mounted sand-salt spreaders
•38 truck-mounted snow plows
•4 motor graders for use as plows
•1 truck-mounted liquid de-icer spraying units
•150 employees
The spreaders are assigned to 35 specific routes totaling 1,750 lane-miles.


Swake is right, we do have upwards of 4 to 5000 miles of streets, but I guess Tulsa's leaders think we only need to clear snow from just over a third of of them... nice.  I'm sticking with my initial impression of how all this was handled and wait for next weeks warm weather... the main reason I'll never live in Rockford again.

Hoss

Quote from: Salukipoke on February 11, 2011, 02:34:27 PM
Upon further review, my initial thought was prolly correct:

http://www.cityoftulsa.org/news/news-stories/2011/weatherupdate2-4-11.aspx

Street Update
Public Works crews are continuing to focus on the arterial street systems, streets near schools and downtown so roads are passable. Crews have plowed all major arterials and put salt down on bridges and plowed streets to help when temperatures drop. City of Tulsa Public Works street crews are remaining on 12-hour shifts. The City of Tulsa still has 7,000 tons of salt remaining in the City's two street maintenance yards. Public Works has been working with the following equipment for snow removal and will continue the process around the clock with:

•55 truck-mounted sand-salt spreaders
•38 truck-mounted snow plows
•4 motor graders for use as plows
•1 truck-mounted liquid de-icer spraying units
•150 employees
The spreaders are assigned to 35 specific routes totaling 1,750 lane-miles.


Swake is right, we do have upwards of 4 to 5000 miles of streets, but I guess Tulsa's leaders think we only need to clear snow from just over a third of of them... nice.  I'm sticking with my initial impression of how all this was handled and wait for next weeks warm weather... the main reason I'll never live in Rockford again.


Which likely excludes the neighborhood streets.  5000 lane miles I could believe if you include the neighborhood streets.  CoT has NEVER plowed neighborhood streets.  Or even sanded/salted for that matter.  Too many cars parked in the street.

nathanm

Quote from: Hoss on February 11, 2011, 02:36:32 PM
Which likely excludes the neighborhood streets.  5000 lane miles I could believe if you include the neighborhood streets.  CoT has NEVER plowed neighborhood streets.  Or even sanded/salted for that matter.  Too many cars parked in the street.
Yeah, I thought they were going above and beyond using fire trucks to pack down some of the neighborhood streets.
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guido911

It is a night and day difference between how Tulsa handles the snow and Winter Park Co. These people up here REALLY know what's going on (yes I know they got the experience and equipment). Still, it's pretty damned awesome.

If you have never been up in these mountains, try to. Even the most hardcore atheist would have a hard time explaining how this occurred. I may look into buying some property up here.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.