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Tulsa County Dentist May Have Exposed 7,000 Patients To HIV, Hepatitis

Started by dioscorides, March 28, 2013, 02:25:56 PM

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DolfanBob

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 02, 2013, 07:24:13 AM
Interesting....
How does one defend the indefensible?



You stand there and bold face lie in front of the masses and the media in the Courtroom.

And then go back to the Judges chambers and tell it like it really is, where the real decisions are made.
Changing opinions one mistake at a time.

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: Conan71 on April 02, 2013, 08:55:28 AM
Check your copy of the Constitution, everyone is entitled to a proper defense.  Even when they are a completely indifferent a-hole.


Yeah...I know and absolutely believe it completely!  Just wonder how on a personal level someone can do that...I don't think I could.  I guess if I looked at it from the point of view of the greater good for society - going to that Constitution thing.  The needs of the one are only assured for the many when that happens.



"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.

Hoss

Quote from: Conan71 on April 02, 2013, 08:55:28 AM
Check your copy of the Constitution, everyone is entitled to a proper defense.  Even when they are a completely indifferent a-hole.

Speaks a lot to me when they tracked him down and found him in ..... Arizona.

AquaMan

And...he inferred it was his employee's responsibility.

Those headlines were accurate and I don't understand how they were considered "loose with the facts" or sensational.

There may in fact have been 7000 people exposed to infectious diseases through his offices. That is accurate.  Had they said "Thousands may have been exposed to deadly toxic viruses" that is accurate but sensational.

Perhaps writing at the level of the reader might be better..."Bad things happening at local dentist offices"
onward...through the fog

JCnOwasso

Quote from: AquaMan on April 02, 2013, 09:41:57 AM
And...he inferred it was his employee's responsibility.

Those headlines were accurate and I don't understand how they were considered "loose with the facts" or sensational.

There may in fact have been 7000 people exposed to infectious diseases through his offices. That is accurate.  Had they said "Thousands may have been exposed to deadly toxic viruses" that is accurate but sensational.

Perhaps writing at the level of the reader might be better..."Bad things happening at local dentist offices"

May is the key word... Remove "May" and you have sensationalized it and tried to scare the smile out of people.  But let's get real.  This guy is working in your mouth and a majority of the work he is doing is going to have him jabbing a sharp instrument into your gums or cheek.  And if he is cutting corners on the sterilization process (including reusing morphine vials), I am pretty sure there is a healthy reason to have fear.  Especially considering I read a report that said he had a higher than normal number of Hep and HIV patients.
 

patric

Quote from: guido911 on April 02, 2013, 02:51:52 AM
I'll give it a whirl: "Recently, jackbooted government thugs wearing SS uniforms stormed into a health care providers' office..." Sound good to you so far?

I see the story has gone fairly national now.
Welcome to last week, Guido.

Quote from: guido911 on April 02, 2013, 02:51:52 AM
I am interested in who is defending this dentist in the licensing action. I did lots of that kind of work in the past.

Harrington's malpractice lawyer was identified as Jim Secrest II.
http://www.foxnews.com/us/2013/03/31/patients-oklahoma-doctor-line-up-to-get-tested-for-hepatitis-hiv/
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

guido911

Quote from: heironymouspasparagus on April 02, 2013, 07:24:13 AM
Interesting....
How does one defend the indefensible?



Well, the first step is not to think you are defending the "indefensible".  :D  But seriously, licensing actions, criminal actions, and civil actions have varying proof requirements, evidentiary rules, etc. They are literally different forums with different processes.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

patric

Quote from: guido911 on April 02, 2013, 03:50:00 PM
licensing actions, criminal actions, and civil actions have varying proof requirements, evidentiary rules, etc. They are literally different forums with different processes.

It's amazing that you can think a piece of evidence is conclusive, yet someone else will view it and it's almost as if they just came from another planet.

Judge Tim Mills dismissed assault charges against McAlester police officer Sterling Taylor, ruling that there wasn't enough evidence.
...despite clear video of the officer tasering a handcuffed woman point-blank.
http://www.ktul.com/story/19465394/police-officer-disciplined-after-tasering-woman

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

heironymouspasparagus

Quote from: patric on April 03, 2013, 12:16:28 AM
It's amazing that you can think a piece of evidence is conclusive, yet someone else will view it and it's almost as if they just came from another planet.

Judge Tim Mills dismissed assault charges against McAlester police officer Sterling Taylor, ruling that there wasn't enough evidence.
...despite clear video of the officer tasering a handcuffed woman point-blank.
http://www.ktul.com/story/19465394/police-officer-disciplined-after-tasering-woman




It's not about logic and what's right...it's about point of law and precedent.

"So he brandished a gun, never shot anyone or anything right?"  --TeeDub, 17 Feb 2018.

I don't share my thoughts because I think it will change the minds of people who think differently.  I share my thoughts to show the people who already think like me that they are not alone.