Councilor Bartlett says...

[cannon_fodder]

When discussing the proposed acceptance of parkland gifted at 71st and Riverside:

"I don't want to have an Authority taking away the rights of the citizens of Tulsa to use [the land at 71st and Riverside] as a park...we have to make sure we don't give someone the opportunity to take that right away from us."
21 minute mark of - https://youtu.be/dMdf9ltVWws

Mayor Bartlett says:

"""This mayor is 110 percent supportive of the approval and the implementation of this site plan, the concept and the implementation of the use as anticipated." 

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/rei-riverside-clears-another-hurdle#stream/0

Remember, every always said that the land at 71st and Riverside was meant to be taken away from citizens and sold by some authority for development. No one ever thought it should remain park land.

Welcome to Tulsa REI.

[carltonplace]

When discussing the proposed acceptance of parkland gifted at 71st and Riverside:

"I don't want to have an Authority taking away the rights of the citizens of Tulsa to use [the land at 71st and Riverside] as a park...we have to make sure we don't give someone the opportunity to take that right away from us."
21 minute mark of - https://youtu.be/dMdf9ltVWws

Mayor Bartlett says:

"""This mayor is 110 percent supportive of the approval and the implementation of this site plan, the concept and the implementation of the use as anticipated." 

http://publicradiotulsa.org/post/rei-riverside-clears-another-hurdle#stream/0

Remember, every always said that the land at 71st and Riverside was meant to be taken away from citizens and sold by some authority for development. No one ever thought it should remain park land.

Welcome to Tulsa REI.

Typical. Parks and density are bad. Bone headed development that perpetuates sprawl, parking lots and wide roads is good. You'd think a conservative would be in favor of less government spending on concrete and asphalt.

[heironymouspasparagus]

Typical. Parks and density are bad. Bone headed development that perpetuates sprawl, parking lots and wide roads is good. You'd think a conservative would be in favor of less government spending on concrete and asphalt.

You have 'conservative' confused with reality.

[Conan71]

Typical. Parks and density are bad. Bone headed development that perpetuates sprawl, parking lots and wide roads is good. You'd think a conservative would be in favor of less government spending on concrete and asphalt.

"The jerb gertin'ist Murr e'er" just wants sales tax of any and all sorts as well as job growth even though it's more entry level wage jobs. 

I see nothing wrong with setting the sort of standards other areas have no problem setting to minimize the dreck of development.  Developers can respect that or they can develop elsewhere.  Tulsa has desirable demographics, it's not like we need to bend over backwards to get an REI, Trader Joe's, or Costco here without putting up with crappy big box dreck or giving away millions in hand-outs to attract them.

It's taken Wal-Mart years to get into Pagosa Springs, Colorado because they could not submit a design that would please the local zoning board.  It's finally happening.  It seems to me mixed emotions on WM finally showing up there.  On the one hand, there are some conveniences people won't have to drive to Durango for now or order on line, but there is still a sense that some sort of sacred line has been crossed by allowing Wal-Mart into the community.

[Hoss]

"The jerb gertin'ist Murr e'er" just wants sales tax of any and all sorts as well as job growth even though it's more entry level wage jobs. 

I see nothing wrong with setting the sort of standards other areas have no problem setting to minimize the dreck of development.  Developers can respect that or they can develop elsewhere.  Tulsa has desirable demographics, it's not like we need to bend over backwards to get an REI, Trader Joe's, or Costco here without putting up with crappy big box dreck or giving away millions in hand-outs to attract them.

It's taken Wal-Mart years to get into Pagosa Springs, Colorado because they could not submit a design that would please the local zoning board.  It's finally happening.  It seems to me mixed emotions on WM finally showing up there.  On the one hand, there are some conveniences people won't have to drive to Durango for now or order on line, but there is still a sense that some sort of sacred line has been crossed by allowing Wal-Mart into the community.

It was like that with Houston and Walmart when I lived down there.  The deal was that there were plenty of Walmarts in Houston, even with Houston street addresses.  The city just wouldn't allow them to build on city land.  It was either in surrounding suburbs or on unincorporated parts of Harris County that got Houston city street addresses.  I think that was relaxed sometime in the late 90s.

I had a Houston street address but did not live in the city limits.