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The old Safeway/Homeland on Denver

Started by Ibanez, November 20, 2006, 01:02:38 PM

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RecycleMichael

Great job Rico!

I was wracking my brain trying to think of the place. I could see the black and white tile and everything but couldn't remember the name.

Here is a story written right before they tore it down...

http://tulsatvmemories.com/11denver.html
Power is nothing till you use it.

carltonplace

As a resident of the area, I'd like to see a grocery store.

SXSW

Grocery store for sure, but not in the current building.  Tear it down and build an urban grocery store that fronts Denver Ave. with parking and a secondary entrance in the back.  The old Homeland was so old and dumpy, that was one of the main reasons it closed.  There are plenty of residents of nearby Riverview, Uptown, and yes downtown that would love a store here.  A store alone would make south downtown more attractive to residential development, especially around what is already there with Central Park towers and Renaissance, as well as possible student housing around TCC's Metro campus just a few blocks to the east.
 

AMP

That area should all magically transform into a wonderful modern technologically inovative designs soon.  

Afterall it is the Best Economy in 50 Years.  

Sure can tell it by most areas of Tulsa.  NOT

While back a developer wanted to transform the South side of 11th Street across from Home Depot into a modern shopping mall/court yard shops area.  Of course he got shot down by INCOG and Downtown Tulsa Ulimited. Must not of Fit their MASTER PLAN.  Gota love all thes mysterious MASTER PLANS that float all around. LOL

When was the last time you saw a new vehicle with a dealer tag in the window driving around in Tulsa North of 71st Street?

Speaking of Master Plans here is a view of the Expo Square thing.  Notice the White areas on the map.

http://www.vision2025.info/project.php?project=exposquaremasterplan;category=exposquare

http://www.vision2025.info/includes/categories/exposquare/projects/exposquaremasterplan/bigimage1.jpg

AMP

Some of the film crew in one of the films shot here lived in those brick apartments near the Bowen Lounge.  Matt Dilion's younger brother used to hang out there with the troups, he refered to Matt as "my brother, the actor."

AMP

Actually the people going in and out of the Bowen Lounge were most likely locals of the DTA, or people that worked downtown.

Just like in most parts of Tulsa today, everyone looks scary or like a criminal if they are standing in front of a buliding that looks like that one.  

In most areas of Tulsa the City/County an't afford to have the grass mowed on a regular basis, and the City can't afford to either turn on all the street lights or replace the burned out bulbs, so you are seen walking along in 4 foot high grass along a dimly lit broken up sidewalk.  Not to mention the giant neglected pot holes in the majority of the streets.  

Tulsa is in the worst shape I have seen it in the past 50 years and getting worse each and every day.  

I am going to set up a web site featuring all the Closed For Sale - For Rent - Available run down buildings in Tulsa.  Many that are owned by Buck Myers.  Photos of the Giant Pot Hole neglected streets, the highway and city street lamps not burning, the grass un-mowed, public City/County Park pools sitting neglected and empty, and call it BestEconomyIn50Years.com  

I remember when sales tax was 2% here and the City was in 100% better shape.  You could buy 48cents worth of goods at the store and there was Zero Tax.  Started at 50 cents and then it was only 1 cent.  Now it is 10%.  

When I first started working I could by for an hours worth of minimum wage work when I was 14, 30 bottles of soda pop at the convienence store cold. They cost 3cents each, and a nickle if you took them out of the store with the 2cent deposit.  There was no tax if you bought 48 cents worth a couple of times.      

1.25 per hour after income taxes was about 1.00 take home or $40 in a week.  I bought a brand new Honda motorcycle by saving up 5 weeks pay checks.  Today the lobbists have created mandatory liability insurance, we did not need that then, nor a helmet or a Safety Inspection Sticker.  Oklahoma Motorcycle Tag ran $8.50 for a 50cc Honda or a 1,200 Harley Davidson, and your drivers license was $1.25 for 4 years.  Gasoline then was 17 cents per gallon at the intersection of 61st and Memorial in a small store that sat caty-wampus on the NE corner.    

Today the insurance alone would take 30 weeks work at minimum wage to pay for. Gasoline took 90 years to reach 99 cents per gallon, but in less than 5 years it went form 99cents to over $3.00 per gallon.  No wonder we all are broke and the Nation is in debt.  DUH

Best Economy In 50 Years..... For Who?

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I emailed the City regarding giant holes in the street by my office.  They sent a man out back in July to look at it. He called and said it was the worse he has ever seen.  Said he would be back next week to take care of it. Never came, and I never heard back.  Emailed again and was told the street ends 1,000 feet before the end of the street and it is not the City's?  Although it has a street sign that indicates it is the street?   Typically Tulsa  deal.

PonderInc

The OU Urban Design Studio did a terrific study of the Denver "corridor" between downtown and the river in its "Downtown/River Link" plan.  http://tulsagrad.ou.edu/studio/currentwork/currentwork.htm

It's full of great insights and ideas for this area.  

The only problem is that the .pdf file is 143 pages, and the file size is so huge it's almost unmanageable.  (Note to OU Urban Design folks: please break these .pdfs into chapters so people can actually READ and USE them!)

AMP

Iteresting how prior to the elections in November of 2006 it was "The Best Economy In 50 Years" then suddenly following the highly awaited Black Friday shopping day following Thanksgiving holiday and E-Monday, the headlines now read "Worst Economy since 1930".  

"Wall Street's Worst Day In Months"
"Lots Of Traffic But So-So Sales At Stores, Plus Weaker Dollar"  

Worst Economy . . . DUH, what cave have you been living in for the past 5 years.

"The world is about to witness the worst economy since the 1930s, and only the informed and agile will survive."


waterboy

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Originally posted by AMP

Iteresting how prior to the elections in November of 2006 it was "The Best Economy In 50 Years" then suddenly following the highly awaited Black Friday shopping day following Thanksgiving holiday and E-Monday, the headlines now read "Worst Economy since 1930".  

"Wall Street's Worst Day In Months"
"Lots Of Traffic But So-So Sales At Stores, Plus Weaker Dollar"  

Worst Economy . . . DUH, what cave have you been living in for the past 5 years.

"The world is about to witness the worst economy since the 1930s, and only the informed and agile will survive."





Even though I agree with you on most of what you've posted recently I have to ask, what do you hope to accomplish with those remarks? Yes the distance is increasing between have/have not and the recent election is the result. But doom and gloom forecasts without suggestions for solutions are usually ignored. Seriously, is there a plan you espouse for dealing with the coming disasters or are you just warning us all?