Maybe this "Surge" thing is working...

[tim huntzinger]

Whenever I get discouraged about the war, I watch this.

[RecycleMichael]

While it is sometimes difficult to take the same side as AOX, I will on this.

Views on the war and when it should end are all just opinion. I don't believe any of the propaganda coming out of Iraq from either side. They are both right and wrong. Things are going well or poorly, based on which side of the civil war that you talk to.

We need to find a way to get our troops home as soon as possible and this president thinks sending more over is the right answer.

No true American wants to lose this war. When you republican idealogues try to defend what is happening by claiming "the surge is working", you ignore the facts that American troops are still dying every day fighting a war that most Americans don't want them to be in.

And a message to you two...when you two just make fun of him and write "sniff", you lower the level of discourse.

[aoxamaxoa]

REMOVED

[aoxamaxoa]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

Whenever I get discouraged about the war, I watch this.

Pretty macho....real sick....wrong way thinking.

[iplaw]

quote: When you republican idealogues try to defend what is happening by claiming "the surge is working", you ignore the facts that American troops are still dying every day fighting a war that most Americans don't want them to be in.

And when you naysayer liberal idealogues refuse to see positive results that even make a left winger like Katie Couric sit up and take notice of how the country is changing for the better I wonder why you ignore the "facts?"

quote:And a message to you two...when you two just make fun of him and write "sniff", you lower the level of discourse.

Gee thanks for the self righteous admonishment...  You're no prize poster yourself sometimes.  It's amazing that out of all the hateful and personally directed comments AOX has made over the last two weeks you choose to harangue me and others...

AOX is an embarassment to himself and every other poster on this forum for the way he's acted over the last two weeks.  Personally attacking individuals who both facilitate this forum and participate on it.  

He deserves to be canned just for the half dozen times he's told various people to "****" in the last two days (at least once in this thread alone).  As snarky as both you and I get, neither of us have stooped to that level.

[tim huntzinger]

That video is not sick.  Talking about Karl Rove's mama's suicide is sick.  Seeing some of your freedom fighters getting whacked is a GREAT thing.  By golly, I am gonna watch it again and turn up that sound real loud.

[cannon_fodder]

RM:

First, I am not ridiculing AOX because of his anti war view.  That view is a popular opinion and easily defensible.  It is his antics and accusations that are annoying.

Anyway, I think the war has gone very poorly also and am not convinced more troops is the correct response.  Of course, I am not a military strategist.  In hind site, its so easy to say the course at the begging was horribly wrong.  If our objective is a free and stable Iraq, and our military leaders say more troops are needed to accomplish that goal, then I am willing to accept that as the best course of action.  

Setting the goal and determining what is an acceptable cost is a job for the politicians.  Strategy should be left to the general (cost will obviously effect their available strategies).  I'm just hoping the political side is not wagging the dog in this war as it did in Vietnam.

and as a side note, WWII was an unpopular war after a couple years too.  Thanks to the outcome of the conflict history chooses to remember everyone donating pots and pans with a bright smile on their face, such was not always the case.  Unpopularity is not necessarily indicative of a poor or failed cause.  Especially since the American people would invade/pull out of wars every other week if given to their whims (North Korea said what?  Invade them!  A chopper crashed... crap pull out.).

Anyway, point taken.

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

Gee thanks for the self righteous admonishment...  You're no prize poster yourself sometimes.  It's amazing that out of all the hateful and personally directed comments AOX has made over the last two weeks you choose to harangue me and others...

AOX is an embarassment to himself and every other poster on this forum for the way he's acted over the last two weeks.  Personally attacking individuals who both facilitate this forum and participate on it.  

He deserves to be canned just for the half dozen times he's told various people to "****" in the last two days (at least once in this thread alone).  As snarky as both you and I get, neither of us have stooped to that level.

I don't disagree. I thought you two had redeeming qualities and would take the friendly criticism as offered.

I sent a private message to the moderators agreeing that AOX be banned. He no longer had anything positive to add to the forum, in my opinion.

[tim huntzinger]

quote:Originally posted by tim huntzinger

Whenever I get discouraged about the war, I watch this.

. . . then I feel bad about it all when I listen to MLK address the Vietnam War here.

[iplaw]

quote:I thought you two had redeeming qualities and would take the friendly criticism as offered.

Come on RM...you give me WAAAAY too much credit...[]