Auto Body Shops

[villianstulsa]

I am looking for a good auto body shops around Tulsa. My car was hitted badly, rear bumper is broken and the steel body was deformed too.

I never involved in this kind of repair before so have no idea about the shops. Do you guys have any reccommendation for me.

Also, I am trying to get an old rear bumper from an auto salvage and need advices in this field too.

Thanks in advance everybody

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by villianstulsa

I am looking for a good auto body shops around Tulsa. My car was hitted badly, rear bumper is broken and the steel body was deformed too.

I never involved in this kind of repair before so have no idea about the shops. Do you guys have any reccommendation for me.

Also, I am trying to get an old rear bumper from an auto salvage and need advices in this field too.

Thanks in advance everybody

are you calling the "steel body" the frame?  cause if that is bent that car is totaled.

[villianstulsa]

Yeah, it is the frame but it just on one side at the back and it is not really a big deformed

[White Dawg]

Inteller, you don't know what your talking about. I'm an Auto Adjuster and your statement is false

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by White Dawg

Inteller, you don't know what your talking about. I'm an Auto Adjuster and your statement is false

ah yes, an auto adjuster telling me the car with the bent frame can be fixed.  point proven.

sorry bub, don't care what auto body mags you read or what theory you've been sold on, but a car with a frame fix will NEVER drive the same again.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by White Dawg

Inteller, you don't know what your talking about. I'm an Auto Adjuster and your statement is false

ah yes, an auto adjuster telling me the car with the bent frame can be fixed.  point proven.

sorry bub, don't care what auto body mags you read or what theory you've been sold on, but a car with a frame fix will NEVER drive the same again.

Your statements were true once, but some things have changed. It depends alot on what you call a frame and how you classify bent. For one, auto body shops have something called a "frame straightener" which would seem to nullify some part of your argument. For two "the frame" is a very vague term these days. You could hit the bumper and bend the frame at the bumper attachment point and the car still drive just fine because the rest of the frame is fine.

I've had a vehicle with major frame restoration done(SUV's don't like to fly, who knew.) It was expensive and took a lot of time (you basically rebuild the whole thing from scratch) but it was in mint condition when it was done.

What inteller is talking about is those people who get rear ended, try to pound it out with hammers, and keep wondering why there front wheels are 6" to the left of the rear ones.

If villians car just has the frame where the bumper attached bent, and nothing major structurally wrong, then it may be fixable. Keep in mind "totalled" generally means repair will cost more than half of what the cars worth (salvage value figures in there too). The one I had repaired was generally considered "totalled" when I had it done.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by inteller

quote:Originally posted by White Dawg

Inteller, you don't know what your talking about. I'm an Auto Adjuster and your statement is false

ah yes, an auto adjuster telling me the car with the bent frame can be fixed.  point proven.

sorry bub, don't care what auto body mags you read or what theory you've been sold on, but a car with a frame fix will NEVER drive the same again.

Your statements were true once, but some things have changed. It depends alot on what you call a frame and how you classify bent. For one, auto body shops have something called a "frame straightener" which would seem to nullify some part of your argument. For two "the frame" is a very vague term these days. You could hit the bumper and bend the frame at the bumper attachment point and the car still drive just fine because the rest of the frame is fine.

I've had a vehicle with major frame restoration done(SUV's don't like to fly, who knew.) It was expensive and took a lot of time (you basically rebuild the whole thing from scratch) but it was in mint condition when it was done.

What inteller is talking about is those people who get rear ended, try to pound it out with hammers, and keep wondering why there front wheels are 6" to the left of the rear ones.

If villians car just has the frame where the bumper attached bent, and nothing major structurally wrong, then it may be fixable. Keep in mind "totalled" generally means repair will cost more than half of what the cars worth (salvage value figures in there too). The one I had repaired was generally considered "totalled" when I had it done.

Ah, I see you've been blinded by the lasers on the "frame straightener".

These are clever devices that let the ins companies not have to total your car.  They'll tell you these machines can make your car like new.  What you end up with is driving something that should have a salvage title because it is a POS.

A frame these days is usually made up of sub members, but even if you replace the bent submembers, you do not address any other parts of the frame that might not appear bent to the naked eye.

Say what you want, but I know scrupulous ins companies that if they see any of the submembers damaged they total.  They know it is better to get the car and tear it down and sell the parts than try to put that heap back on the road and deal with the litany of supplementals that will inevitably follow.

[sauerkraut]

I think just about all cars today are uni-body built. it's a cheaper way to make a car. I guess they can be fixed pretty good with hi-tech computer lasers but it will not be like new, the bent metal will be a bit weaker. I believe the only vehicles today with a full frame are pick-up trucks and maybe some big full-size cars.

[mspivey]

Most cars don't even have a frame anymore. They are unibody. Most any bent frame/unibody can be properly repaired. Sometimes a unibody piece, like a floor pan must be replaced. It all comes down to cost to repair vs. cost to replace the car.

Most large shops have frame machines that measure control points with lasers and tell where and how much to pull. A properly trained technician can make a car as good as new. As long as the suspension pickup points are in the proper location, the car doesn't know what's been pulled or welded on.

To the OP, I've had great luck with Buddy's Body Shop on 6th.

[inteller]

quote:Originally posted by mspivey

Most cars don't even have a frame anymore. They are unibody. Most any bent frame/unibody can be properly repaired. Sometimes a unibody piece, like a floor pan must be replaced. It all comes down to cost to repair vs. cost to replace the car.

Most large shops have frame machines that measure control points with lasers and tell where and how much to pull. A properly trained technician can make a car as good as new. As long as the suspension pickup points are in the proper location, the car doesn't know what's been pulled or welded on.

To the OP, I've had great luck with Buddy's Body Shop on 6th.

yes, but you used the terms "properly trained" and "as long as" in the same paragraph.  Sorry, but those variables simply aren't controllable.  I also know there are more bad mechanics in town than good ones.

[mspivey]

quote:Originally posted by inteller
I also know there are more bad mechanics in town than good ones.

And what do you base that statement on?

What's your profession? Are there more hacks in your line of work than competent people? Seems likely.

[waterboy]

Some crossover SuV's use frames, and the Isuzu Troopers did well into the late nineties. Almost all trucks. They are less roadable and harsh riding but usually outlast the bodies.

There have to be lots of cars on the road who have laser straigtened chassis's. Those machines aren't cheap.

[Dana431]

Paintmasters on 11th Street between Yale and Sheridan

Body Works on 51st Street between Mingo and 169

I'm unable to find them on the web but I know they are in the yellow pages.  Both places have done great jobs on both my company's and personal vehicles.