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The New Hampshire primary

Started by RecycleMichael, January 04, 2008, 04:44:16 PM

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TUalum0982

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Watch how different this one will be. Huckabee will be lucky to finish third in this one.

I predict McCain wins this one with Romney coming in second. Guiliani finished sixth in Iowa, but will probably knock Huckabee down to fourth here.

Huckabee won because the evangelical movement fought desperately to maintain control of the republican party. There are not enough evangelicals in New Hampshire to do it again.

On the democrat side, I predict Clinton will win this one barely over Obama with Edwards coming in third. Kucinich and Richardson will also do far better in this one than they did in Iowa.



I must say you nailed this one! Great prediction!
"You cant solve Stupid." 
"I don't do sorry, sorry is for criminals and screw ups."

spoonbill

OMG it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.  I'm listening to the Hildabeast being interviewed this morning about "being human":

"I'm a leader that wants to follow in the footsteps of great men like Carter and Kennedy"

"The reason I get up every day is to make a difference in peoples lives"  (Smirk, cackle, cackle, cackle).

It's all "Me, My, and I"  She didn't put any emphasis on the country at all.  She did not thank the voters. She's absolutely giddy about "her" opportunity to be the president.  Humility is totally foreign to her.

I love it!  She's the perfect Huffington,MoveOn candidate!

I also noticed that her Destroy Obama campaign has started.  Bill called his campaign "a ferry-tale fantasy."  

This is gonna be must-see TV.  Imagine another 9 months of this reality-show!  Oh! wait, you don't have to imagine.  It's gonna happen! [:)]

inteller

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Originally posted by spoonbill

OMG it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.  I'm listening to the Hildabeast being interviewed this morning about "being human":

"I'm a leader that wants to follow in the footsteps of great men like Carter and Kennedy"

"The reason I get up every day is to make a difference in peoples lives"  (Smirk, cackle, cackle, cackle).

It's all "Me, My, and I"  She didn't put any emphasis on the country at all.  She did not thank the voters. She's absolutely giddy about "her" opportunity to be the president.  Humility is totally foreign to her.

I love it!  She's the perfect Huffington,MoveOn candidate!

I also noticed that her Destroy Obama campaign has started.  Bill called his campaign "a ferry-tale fantasy."  

This is gonna be must-see TV.  Imagine another 9 months of this reality-show!  Oh! wait, you don't have to imagine.  It's gonna happen! [:)]



uh, it's spelled fairy..not ferry.  Though I'm sure Obama could give some good uplifting speeches about the plight of some ferry somewhere as well and how the ferry united both sides of the river and blah blah blah.

spoonbill

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Originally posted by inteller

quote:
Originally posted by spoonbill

OMG it's like fingernails on a chalkboard.  I'm listening to the Hildabeast being interviewed this morning about "being human":

"I'm a leader that wants to follow in the footsteps of great men like Carter and Kennedy"

"The reason I get up every day is to make a difference in peoples lives"  (Smirk, cackle, cackle, cackle).

It's all "Me, My, and I"  She didn't put any emphasis on the country at all.  She did not thank the voters. She's absolutely giddy about "her" opportunity to be the president.  Humility is totally foreign to her.

I love it!  She's the perfect Huffington,MoveOn candidate!

I also noticed that her Destroy Obama campaign has started.  Bill called his campaign "a ferry-tale fantasy."  

This is gonna be must-see TV.  Imagine another 9 months of this reality-show!  Oh! wait, you don't have to imagine.  It's gonna happen! [:)]



uh, it's spelled fairy..not ferry.  Though I'm sure Obama could give some good uplifting speeches about the plight of some ferry somewhere as well and how the ferry united both sides of the river and blah blah blah.



I spelled it that way on purpose, as not to offend anyone.  I'm thoughtful that way!

Also, that's not the kind of tail that Bill is interested in!  

Derailed

Barack Obama is apparently cousin to Raila Odinga, the opposition presidential candidate in Kenya.  Lots of violence has errupted in Kenya since he lost the election at the end of December.

This news came out yesterday from Odinga.  Obama's father was Odinga's maternal uncle.

In 2006 Obama went to Kenya and criticized the current government while speaking to crowds with Odinga.

I have not seen any Obama response or reaction on the news but I could have missed it.

Has anyone else?


USRufnex

Okay, it's Drudge, but hey......

http://www.drudge.com/news/102708/obama-made-call-calm-kenya

Joe Klein: Barack Obama has been working to calm things down in his father's homeland and his grandmother's home, Kenya, where a contested election has led to riots. On January 1, two days before the Iowa caucuses, Obama left a message for Secretary of State Condoleezza Rice. According to Robert Gibbs, Obama's Communications Director, Rice called back "as we were driving from Sioux City to Council Bluffs on January 1. They talked about the situation and Rice asked Obama to tape a Voice of America message calling for calm." Obama taped the message on January 2, after a rally in Davenport, Iowa.

He said, in part: "Despite irregularities in the vote tabulation, now is not the time to throw that strong democracy away. Now is a time for President Kibaki, opposition leader Odinga, and all of Kenya's leaders to call for calm, to come together, and to start a political process to address peacefully the controversies that divide them. Now is the time for this terrible violence to end. Kenya's long democratic journey has at times been difficult. But at critical moments, Kenyans have chosen unity and progress over division and disaster. The way forward is not through violence it is through democracy, and the rule of law. To all of Kenya's people, I ask you to renew Kenya's democratic tradition, and to seek your dreams in peace."

On January 3, the day of the caucuses, he had a conversation with Bishop Desmond Tutu, who had flown to Nairobi to see if he could begin negotiations with the factions. In the days since his Iowa victory, Obama has had near-daily conversations with the U.S. Ambassador in Kenya or with opposition leader Raila Odinga. As of late this afternoon, before his rally in Rochester, N.H., Obama was trying to reach Kenyan President Kibaki.

I haven't been able to talk to Obama directly about this--he is sort of busy right now--but it does seem noteworthy that, in the midst of the most amazing week of his life, Barack Obama has found the time to do a some diplomatic scut-work. I suspect we'll be seeing a lot of this sort of thing if he wins the nomination and is elected President.

USRufnex

Bill Clinton--"the biggest fairy tale I've ever seen"....

Really?

Barack Obama in October 2002.  

http://en.wikisource.org/wiki/Barack_Obama's_Iraq_Speech

Good afternoon. Let me begin by saying that although this has been billed as an anti-war rally, I stand before you as someone who is not opposed to war in all circumstances.

The Civil War was one of the bloodiest in history, and yet it was only through the crucible of the sword, the sacrifice of multitudes, that we could begin to perfect this union, and drive the scourge of slavery from our soil. I don't oppose all wars.

My grandfather signed up for a war the day after Pearl Harbor was bombed, fought in Patton's army. He saw the dead and dying across the fields of Europe; he heard the stories of fellow troops who first entered Auschwitz and Treblinka. He fought in the name of a larger freedom, part of that arsenal of democracy that triumphed over evil, and he did not fight in vain.

I don't oppose all wars.

After September 11th, after witnessing the carnage and destruction, the dust and the tears, I supported this Administration's pledge to hunt down and root out those who would slaughter innocents in the name of intolerance, and I would willingly take up arms myself to prevent such a tragedy from happening again.

I don't oppose all wars. And I know that in this crowd today, there is no shortage of patriots, or of patriotism. What I am opposed to is a dumb war. What I am opposed to is a rash war. What I am opposed to is the cynical attempt by Richard Perle and Paul Wolfowitz and other arm-chair, weekend warriors in this Administration to shove their own ideological agendas down our throats, irrespective of the costs in lives lost and in hardships borne.

What I am opposed to is the attempt by political hacks like Karl Rove to distract us from a rise in the uninsured, a rise in the poverty rate, a drop in the median income – to distract us from corporate scandals and a stock market that has just gone through the worst month since the Great Depression.

That's what I'm opposed to. A dumb war. A rash war. A war based not on reason but on passion, not on principle but on politics.

Now let me be clear – I suffer no illusions about Saddam Hussein. He is a brutal man. A ruthless man. A man who butchers his own people to secure his own power. He has repeatedly defied UN resolutions, thwarted UN inspection teams, developed chemical and biological weapons, and coveted nuclear capacity.

He's a bad guy. The world, and the Iraqi people, would be better off without him.

But I also know that Saddam poses no imminent and direct threat to the United States, or to his neighbors, that the Iraqi economy is in shambles, that the Iraqi military a fraction of its former strength, and that in concert with the international community he can be contained until, in the way of all petty dictators, he falls away into the dustbin of history.

I know that even a successful war against Iraq will require a US occupation of undetermined length, at undetermined cost, with undetermined consequences. I know that an invasion of Iraq without a clear rationale and without strong international support will only fan the flames of the Middle East, and encourage the worst, rather than best, impulses of the Arab world, and strengthen the recruitment arm of al-Qaeda.

I am not opposed to all wars. I'm opposed to dumb wars.

So for those of us who seek a more just and secure world for our children, let us send a clear message to the president today. You want a fight, President Bush? Let's finish the fight with Bin Laden and al-Qaeda, through effective, coordinated intelligence, and a shutting down of the financial networks that support terrorism, and a homeland security program that involves more than color-coded warnings.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure that the UN inspectors can do their work, and that we vigorously enforce a non-proliferation treaty, and that former enemies and current allies like Russia safeguard and ultimately eliminate their stores of nuclear material, and that nations like Pakistan and India never use the terrible weapons already in their possession, and that the arms merchants in our own country stop feeding the countless wars that rage across the globe.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to make sure our so-called allies in the Middle East, the Saudis and the Egyptians, stop oppressing their own people, and suppressing dissent, and tolerating corruption and inequality, and mismanaging their economies so that their youth grow up without education, without prospects, without hope, the ready recruits of terrorist cells.

You want a fight, President Bush? Let's fight to wean ourselves off Middle East oil, through an energy policy that doesn't simply serve the interests of Exxon and Mobil.

Those are the battles that we need to fight. Those are the battles that we willingly join. The battles against ignorance and intolerance. Corruption and greed. Poverty and despair.

The consequences of war are dire, the sacrifices immeasurable. We may have occasion in our lifetime to once again rise up in defense of our freedom, and pay the wages of war. But we ought not – we will not – travel down that hellish path blindly. Nor should we allow those who would march off and pay the ultimate sacrifice, who would prove the full measure of devotion with their blood, to make such an awful sacrifice in vain.

sam1900

Its really something hot going on in American politics. I purely stand for Obama's win. Everyone is looking for a change in American parliament.

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Sam
Addiction Recovery New Hampshire

dinesh30

Barak obama will win the poll this time in u.s.Because he is a good candidate to help others.
so almost sure that he will win the poll.and Hilary Clinton i dont think so.
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Dinesh

http://www.treatmentcenters.org/new-hampshire

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