Mayfest, Blue Dome Prove People Will Come Downtown

[waterboy]

Okie speak.
"Whole passle"- large group of people.

Possible meaning: He feels the numbers of visitors to Mayfest/BlueDome are exaggerated by complicit media and at the very least, many of them may have been there only to see the results of their oppressive and excessive tax expenditures.

This morphs into remarks about the G.O. bond issue being considered by the state, which then morphs into remarks about the "incentive checks" and the governments ability to simply print more money at will.

Summarizes by returning to these infrastructure expenditures as being nothing more than a WPA type government exercise in using our own money to attract people to spend mo' money downtown.

Best guess.

[RecycleMichael]

Wow ! 400,000 people that are a hold passel of people that was sure hidden in the TV clips where the total numbers on the clip could have been counted on ones fingers. Then some may have wanted to see the DT changes that's policy is spend now and let the grandchildren worry about the paying off the revenue bonds issued by reverse taxation. Yes, either vote for G.O. Bonds or they will indebt the working poor at the back door. Course your gift U.S. check has been deposited already and their seem to be no difficulty to spend it. We will expect the reassurance each year. After all the cost of paper and ink is all that is required. (Internet depost three cents ) We have found the solution "build it and deposit the money in our bank account and we will come."

I was thinking he meant this...

400,000 people hid from the TV cameras by holding their fingers with a clip. Many have a policy of seeing their grandkids have the DTs but reverse themselves through the back door. The U.S. government needs paper and ink in order to de-post the internet, but only has three cents in their bank account. The solution is to have an orgasm.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

It seemed like there were fewer artists this year.  More carnival type food and less unique restaurant style food.  

The weather was the big draw!  In the shade it was perfect, and even in the sun, with a little breeze you could avoid a sweat!

Artists were the same although they get moved around from year to year. I miss helmuts but I think it was pretty much the same food as next year. Mayfest is only as good as the people who apply and hopefully these stories will drum up some new and wider variety applicants.

I miss my Beef Wellington!

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Wow ! 400,000 people that are a hold passel of people that was sure hidden in the TV clips where the total numbers on the clip could have been counted on ones fingers. Then some may have wanted to see the DT changes that's policy is spend now and let the grandchildren worry about the paying off the revenue bonds issued by reverse taxation. Yes, either vote for G.O. Bonds or they will indebt the working poor at the back door. Course your gift U.S. check has been deposited already and their seem to be no difficulty to spend it. We will expect the reassurance each year. After all the cost of paper and ink is all that is required. (Internet depost three cents ) We have found the solution "build it and deposit the money in our bank account and we will come."

I was thinking he meant this...

400,000 people hid from the TV cameras by holding their fingers with a clip. Many have a policy of seeing their grandkids have the DTs but reverse themselves through the back door. The U.S. government needs paper and ink in order to de-post the internet, but only has three cents in their bank account. The solution is to have an orgasm.

I knew that was the solution.

[PonderInc]

RM, your decoder ring is amazing...I can't wait to see your shoe phone!

I was at Mayfest on Friday after work and late Saturday night. The Friday crowd was quite busy... I think I saw almost everyone I know in Tulsa that evening.  The late Saturday crowd was packed, and I bet the average age was 24!  It was probably the most young people I've seen in one place since college.  

I wonder what the statistics are for people coming in from out of town?  Mayfest definitely drew people from all over the region.  Among my favorite crowd sightings: a bunch of real cowboys (not OSU fans) in for the Joe Diffie concert.  And the youthful punk rockers (with enormous mohawks) who were not even born the last time their fad was in fashion.  It would have been interesting to analyze the car tags of the visitors to see where everyone was coming from.

One statistic that would be interesting to know: how many people tripped over the "tree curbs" that DTU installed in the sidewalks?  (If they had made those a foot or so taller, people could have sat on them...instead of tripping over them.)

[shadows]

As long as some one is correcting my post I know they are being read.

Try this one for size.  "If 400,000 attended the Mayfest in two days  on about 40 acres and the Tulsa Fair draws only 2.5 times as many in ten days on 320 acres of the fair grounds, then the fair should be held DT.   Every inconvenience is available DT that are not to be  considered at the fair grounds.

Tulsa is to close to OKC and has had its day.  The Elitist should  promote buying 5,000 acres at Midway in the Osage, build a city of their liking, and stop trying to compete with OKC.

Those people looking for a way to attend the Blue Dome programs would have increased the count another 100,000 if they could have found it.  

21 years of promoting?      

[JoeMommaBlake]

Was that an attempt at clarification?

I'm confused again (still).

I thought Mayfest was nice and so was the Blue Dome festival..

There were a ton of people there, though I didn't count them and didn't see anyone else counting them.

I like both festivals where they are. I also like the state fair where it is. I also like living in Tulsa and in no way feel like moving to a new city or comparing my city to Oklahoma City.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by shadows

If 400,000 attended the Mayfest in two days  on about 40 acres and the Tulsa Fair draws only 2.5 times as many in ten days on 320 acres of the fair grounds

That is a good point...

[RecycleMichael]

Don't encourage him. His math is never right. Mayfest was four days long for example, not two.

Mayfest also has 30,000 people working within blocks of it's site, the fairgrounds have a few hundred. They also have 10,000 regular churchgoers on Sunday, the fairgrounds has none.

[tshane250]

shadows meet Abilify, Abilify shadows...

[cannon_fodder]

quote:Originally posted by shadows


TV clips...revenue bonds issued by reverse taxation...working poor ...After all the cost of paper and ink is all that is required....build it and deposit the money in our bank account and we will come."  

You were doing so well.  While people clearly read your posts, no one gets any MEANING out of them.  If I post the lyrics to "I am the Walrus" people will read it, so what?

1. You saw a clip on TV and based your assessment on that.  The people that came up with the numbers computed the money spent, the crowds by day AND do this at least in part for a living having actually been there.  Do you really think that is wise?

2. Reverse taxation?  That would be the government earning money and tendering it to the people.  As I understanding, the government does not earn money nor do they (net) tender funds to the people.

3.  When the "working poor" reference returns we are back on a downhill course.

4. The funds came from a debt issue.  DEBT has to be repaid. So the cost is the principle plus interest.   Which is significantly higher than the cost of printing money.  Debt creation is NOT money creation as it draws on existing sources of capital by necessity.

5. That ignores the underlying flaw in your post.  So Mayfest did not have a lot of people there (because you saw that on TV) but the crowds came to Mayfest because they had their rebates deposited.  So which is it?  Crowds because of deposits or media conspiracy and no crowds?

AND, if it was a media conspiracy why didn't they show a better group of people to you on TV?
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You were doing so well for a few weeks there.

[shadows]

Waterboy Quoted:

Okie speak.
"Whole passle"- large group of people.

You got me on this one.  Before the school burned and the school marm ran off with the cowboy (when I was in the 4th grade) we did not have such a word or   definition for "passle"  

[waterboy]

I love the word. You probably had the correct spelling though, "Passel". Words like that and "worsh rag" are part of our heritage. Kum and Go recently started using soft drink cups with separate labels for "Pop" and "Soda" to see which cup gets chosen the most. I go with pop, but one of my friends from deep Texas says its both..."Popsoda". Go figure.

[shadows]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Don't encourage him. His math is never right. Mayfest was four days long for example, not two.

Mayfest also has 30,000 people working within blocks of it's site, the fairgrounds have a few hundred. They also have 10,000 regular churchgoers on Sunday, the fairgrounds has none.

There I have done it again as I thought the first two day was for the employees of the working poor (tax payers who pay the bills) to marvel at the progress of the reworking of main street (tear it up and redo it every other decade as dictated)  just to satisfy a new group of elitist's fancies. (don't need it but why not when the working poor is paying for it)

The other two days were dedicated to the over obese (overweight and extremely fat) who were there by the tons to leave the fest taking home more tons of excess fat.  Most ot the posts on this forum concerned how much and great the food was there.    

[shadows]

CF Quoted:
4. The funds came from a debt issue. DEBT has to be repaid. So the cost is the principle plus interest. Which is significantly higher than the cost of printing money. Debt creation is NOT money creation as it draws on existing sources of capital by necessity.

You were doing so well. While people clearly read your posts, no one gets any MEANING out of them. If I post the lyrics to "I am the Walrus" people will read it, so what?

"The time has come the Walrus said to speak of many things, of shoes, of ships, of ceiling wax, of cabbages and Kings."  

Have you written your senator and informed him that when debts are out of control then bankruptcy is the next step.   All transactions whether local or national is no more than a fancy engraved piece of paper meaning "On my honor I will pay you in tangible merchandise when you present this piece of paper"

Governments, under free enterprise, have no commodity to barter other what they have taken from the Native American where the final episode was under Jackson in 1838.   The socialistic/ communism approach of distributing millions of dollars by any bankrupt country is well down the road of disaster.

If it is workable let us go all the way and deposit in the bank account of every family $100,000 dollars on January 1 of every year.  Issue new color currency on the 2nd day so that each would have to spent the previous year's deposits before the 2nd day.  Issue each family 5 checks to be used in the transition of converting the money through the federal banks.

We are the laughing stock of the world today as of the three wars we have started two we left with the  same conditions we started with and now the third one is causing us to do some very  stupid things.

I suppose you went to France when you said you were leaving the country in a previous post.  Do they thank you for Jefferson helping them to overthrow the House of Bourbon?.  I am sure you tasted their wine?   Was it not the rider of the pale horse that said "harm not the oil nor the wine?