Hillary is ahead in popular votes

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us
I mean, does anyone know what John McCain's doing today?  

I think he is taking a nap or watching Lawrence Welk reruns.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by we vs us
I mean, does anyone know what John McCain's doing today?  

I think he is taking a nap or watching Lawrence Welk reruns.

He's having a BBQ.  It's the annual Right Wing Conspiracy Meeting.

Hot-dogs, hamburgers and baby blood, you know the standard fare.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

That said, a friend of mine makes the argument that she should keep running till the convention. She stirs the pot of involvement. Each primary has set records for new Democrat registration and participation. Republicans stand to lose the focus of the camera when the race between these two is really more interesting.

Too, true.  I mean, does anyone know what John McCain's doing today?  I sure don't.  All I know is he keeps making this low voltage appearances, inevitably misstates basic American policy, and then has to have Joe Lieberman step in and correct him in public.  Other than that, is he even running?

PS, I hope the Republican caucus is ready for a "Democrat" on their ticket, because my money's on Lieberman to be McCain's Veep.

McCain's handlers are being smart and keeping him largely muzzled right now.  As long as Hillary stays in this race, McCain really doesn't need to be campaigning until after the conventions.  Hillary is his best ally right now.  It really comes as no surprise she is putting her own aspirations before the well-being of her party.

I've been saying since Super Tuesday that she won't drop out before the convention.  Hillary really has no reason to drop out of the race at this point.  As someone else intimated a week or so back:  if McCain gets elected, she can run against him in 2012.  If Obama gets elected, her next shot is 2016 when she's 69 years old, unless Obama is an abysmal failure like Carter.

Tripping-up Obama works in her favor whether she gets nominated this year or not.

[Gaspar]

Her campaign to destroy the party continues.  Here a look at here comparative math.  You can thank uncle Al for this one too!

http://www.newsweek.com/id/138109

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

McCain's handlers are being smart and keeping him largely muzzled right now.  

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They'd better keep him muzzled. The last thing McCain's handlers need right now is another "Iraq 100 Years" quote.

[cannon_fodder]

So just to be clear:

If we COUNT Florida (where they did not "compete") and Michigan (where only Hillary was on the ballot) and don't count Iowa, Nevada, Maine, Washington or the Texas primaries (which were all won by Obama and do count) - then Hillary is ahead?

Wow, very convincing.  

The primaries are worth about 110,000 to Obama on a conservative estimate.

Michigan had 328,000 vote for Hillary and 228,000 vote for "someone else,"  so giving her anything more than 100,000 is a total farce, even below Hillary.

Florida we can find 300,000 more votes for Hillary if we wanted to count it (and ignore that Hillary's lead faltered or disappeared in all but 3 states).

So NET of your math is Hillary +300K.  

So it's STILL Obama +150,000.

Unless "someone else" votes get disenfranchised.  But every vote has to count...  so even with your pick and choose math either Obama is still in the lead, or you are ignoring votes that were obviously cast for him (and ignoring the fact that most of his supporters probably just stayed home) - then you either have Obama still in the lead or ignore votes that were cast.

So which is it?  What about the hanging chads?

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

McCain's handlers are being smart and keeping him largely muzzled right now.  

They'd better keep him muzzled. The last thing McCain's handlers need right now is another "Iraq 100 Years" quote.
[/quote]

Just thought I'd post the whole quote for ya.  I think I'll do this every time someone takes something out of context.



Questioner: President Bush has talked about our staying in Iraq for fifty years...
McCain: Maybe a hundred. Make it one hundred. We've been in South Korea, we've been in Japan for sixty years. We've been in South Korea for fifty years or so. That'd be fine with me as long as Americans are not being injured or harmed or wounded or killed. Then it's fine with me. I would hope it would be fine with you if we maintain a presence in a very volatile part of the world where Al Qaeda is training, recruiting, equipping and motivating people every single day.

[cannon_fodder]

That is the first time I have seen that quote in context.  An entirely new light...

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

That is the first time I have seen that quote in context.  An entirely new light...

Yeah!  They had to work real hard to make it sound bad!

Nothing to see here, Just the media praying off of the ignorance of most of the viewing public!

[Gaspar]

Crickets Chirping |_|_|_|_|_|_|_|_|

[USRufnex]

Hey, tis the season for gotcha politics... as much as I'd love to feel sorry for John McCain after his "100 years" statement...

http://www.cnn.com/2004/ALLPOLITICS/09/30/kerry.comment/


Thursday, September 30, 2004 Posted: 12:18 PM EDT (1618 GMT)

(CNN) -- Sen. John Kerry on Wednesday gave an explanation for his comment that he "actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it," calling it "one of those inarticulate moments."

Kerry made the comment during a March 16 appearance at Marshall University in Huntington, West Virginia, in response to a question about his vote against an $87 billion supplemental appropriation for military operations in Iraq and Afghanistan.

As he tried to explain that he had voted for an earlier version of the bill before opposing final passage, Kerry said, "I actually did vote for the $87 billion before I voted against it."

The Bush campaign immediately seized on the comment, using the footage in television ads to illustrate its charge that Kerry flip-flops on issues, particularly the war in Iraq.

Bush and Vice President Dick Cheney repeatedly refer to the comment in their stump speeches, noting that Kerry's running mate, Sen. John Edwards, also voted against the appropriations bill.

Wednesday, in an interview with ABC's "Good Morning America," Kerry was asked about the statement, which has become one of the most quoted lines in the 2004 campaign.

"It just was a very inarticulate way of saying something, and I had one of those inarticulate moments late in the evening when I was dead tired in the primaries and I didn't say something very clearly," he said.

However, as the Bush campaign quickly pointed out, Kerry actually made the comment in the early afternoon.

CNN covered Kerry's appearance that day. He made the comment about 1:20 p.m.

Kerry was barely off the air at ABC on Wednesday when the Bush campaign fired off an e-mail noting the discrepancy, under the subject line, "Perhaps His Watch Was On Paris Time?"

-------------------- I really don't think republicans have any room to talk about being misquoted or misunderstood... John McCain is prepared to keep a US presence in Iraq for 100 years... if you want to put a proper perspective on this...

Well, I guess this makes you:  wimpy, nuanced, French, a flip-flopper, unpatriotic, un-American, elitist, a windsurfer.... and... an "appeaser"

Perspective is for p***ies.  [}:)]

[Conan71]

Feh.  We still maintain military bases in Japan and Germany 63 years later.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

Feh.  We still maintain military bases in Japan and Germany 63 years later.

Why? Because they need us so badly to keep their countries from being attacked by their neighbors? These bases are totally unnecesary and aren't too welcome either. They make the host country a target for our enemies. A huge expense that needs some re-analyzing.

[FOTD]

Flesh Wound

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=oO5soX3iLtk

[waterboy]

tears in the eye laughs.