Hillary to Acknowledge Obama as the Nominee

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

This subject is too serious to let the conversation descend into being cute.

Who's being cute?

[Hometown]

"Obama's already decreed that both he and the DNC itself won't take lobbyist money through this election cycle."

This move makes us feel good, but it puts us at a competitive disadvantage.

[Hometown]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

The party does not need Hillary or Bill. The party will survive. Not only that, the new dmocrats will spread their net and they will be the one's convincing the Clinton faction to vote against what has transpired over the last 8 years. The technological magic that got Obama here will be stepped up to reveal an honest issue oriented campaign.

Hillary's manipulations seem to be geared to 2012. I am beggining to think Hillary is negotiating for money and not the veep position. Being the first to predict Hill as a potential Obama Supreme nominee, I now withdraw that possibility. She'll be relgated to a Senator. Nothing more.

Right.  And mean and evil politics doesn't exist anymore.  Isn't that what you said earlier?

Fortunately for us, Obama seems to be a little more on the ball than you are.

Nope. That's NOT what I said.

Yes, you DID say it.

Here's what you wrote on 4-30-08 in Recycle Michael's thread "Obama throws paster under the bus."  In your post on page one you state:

We are seeing the change we envision. Tolerance and acceptance can't come without the mean people kicking back over and over. Stay calm and don't panic. A new day is dawning. Have hope. This is what the year 08 is in politics....change. The evil doers and mean people have had their day.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

"Obama's already decreed that both he and the DNC itself won't take lobbyist money through this election cycle."

This move makes us feel good, but it puts us at a competitive disadvantage.

He has raised plenty of money.  His biggest expense was Hillary, and now that that's over he can focus on the real campaign.

Of course Hillary may be requesting his help in paying her debts.  Kind of ironic. . . she brutally battered him and he may have to pay for the beating.

Ya gotta love politics!

[waterboy]

Conan, I like Richardson too. That Southwest experience would be valuable since immigration issues are likely to be better understood by their leaders. Wouldn't hurt to have two minorities on a ticket. Now if one of them were of a different gender as well....

Fortunately, there will be a cooling off period till the convention so he can consider all these other qualified vp candidates. No use to expend much time on it now.

[Conan71]

The no money from lobbyists policy sounds great, yet it still doesn't keep PAC, lobby, and any other term for special-interest money from being funneled through individuals.

It's a bold public image statement, yet he continues to raise money at a record pace, that's not simply all individuals emptying their savings accounts.

Waterboy- forgot about the immigration angle as well.  Richardson fell on deaf ears.  I really did feel he would have appeal to Republican voters.  Too bad Richardson isn't female or at least a little more handsome. []

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

The party does not need Hillary or Bill. The party will survive. Not only that, the new dmocrats will spread their net and they will be the one's convincing the Clinton faction to vote against what has transpired over the last 8 years. The technological magic that got Obama here will be stepped up to reveal an honest issue oriented campaign.

Hillary's manipulations seem to be geared to 2012. I am beggining to think Hillary is negotiating for money and not the veep position. Being the first to predict Hill as a potential Obama Supreme nominee, I now withdraw that possibility. She'll be relgated to a Senator. Nothing more.

Right.  And mean and evil politics doesn't exist anymore.  Isn't that what you said earlier?

Fortunately for us, Obama seems to be a little more on the ball than you are.

Nope. That's NOT what I said.

Yes, you DID say it.

Here's what you wrote on 4-30-08 in Recycle Michael's thread "Obama throws paster under the bus."  In your post on page one you state:

We are seeing the change we envision. Tolerance and acceptance can't come without the mean people kicking back over and over. Stay calm and don't panic. A new day is dawning. Have hope. This is what the year 08 is in politics....change. The evil doers and mean people have had their day.

...."had their day" and "doesn't exist" are not synonymous.....good research though. Lots of waisted space and time, however.

Bush has had his day. Unfortunately, he still exists. Get it?

[Hometown]

I think I made my point.

Mean and evil still exists and is good for another day, like somewhere around late October.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


It's a bold public image statement, yet he continues to raise money at a record pace, that's not simply all individuals emptying their savings accounts.

Looking at his Open Secrets fundraising summary, it's pretty clear where his money is coming from:  millions of individuals emptying their savings accounts, $100 at a time.  

That's not to say that he's shunning ALL of Washington's kept money, but he's doing an excellent job of keeping much of it out.  

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


It's a bold public image statement, yet he continues to raise money at a record pace, that's not simply all individuals emptying their savings accounts.

Looking at his Open Secrets fundraising summary, it's pretty clear where his money is coming from:  millions of individuals emptying their savings accounts, $100 at a time.  

That's not to say that he's shunning ALL of Washington's kept money, but he's doing an excellent job of keeping much of it out.  

Looks clean on paper.  

You will have to forgive years of developing cynicism on my part.  No one rises to Presidential nominee without some quid-pro-quos.

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by we vs us

quote:Originally posted by Conan71


It's a bold public image statement, yet he continues to raise money at a record pace, that's not simply all individuals emptying their savings accounts.

Looking at his Open Secrets fundraising summary, it's pretty clear where his money is coming from:  millions of individuals emptying their savings accounts, $100 at a time.  

That's not to say that he's shunning ALL of Washington's kept money, but he's doing an excellent job of keeping much of it out.  

Looks clean on paper.  

You will have to forgive years of developing cynicism on my part.  No one rises to Presidential nominee without some quid-pro-quos.

Absolutely forgiven.  And hey, I'm not so far gone as to think he hasn't made a bushelfull of promises and commitments to people to get things done.  But hell.  You're a sales guy, just like me. You know that the world runs on favors, kindnesses, and personal commitments.  I'm not giving him a pass -- he's still a pol, and that's his currency, too -- but we all got to serve someone, as Mr. Dylan said, and much better to serve millions of small fry with their checkbooks in hand than the Five Cigar Smoking Guys in their Smoky Back Room.

[okiebybirth]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

I'm waiting for and haven't seen any significant outreach.

I did see that Obama is going to keep Dean in his current leadership position and I don't like that move.

I don't think you'd acknowledge any kind of outreach unless he kissed all ten of her toes and handed her a scepter.

Your bitterness is obvious but don't you think she had something to do with losing the primary?     There was a lot of mistakes she made that cost her the election.  She had a HUGE advantage of name recognition going into Iowa, even running as the "inevitable" nominee. Of course there was sexism in this campaign, but there was also racism.  It doesn't explain her not getting the nomination.