Here's a new twist on weather hype

[iplaw]

http://www.newson6.com/global/story.asp?s=8430357

Warnings of a possible tornado outbreak from Oklahoma to Iowa are in the forecast for Thursday.

The News On 6 WARN team says conditions are similar to a deadly day in 1974 when 39 tornadoes touched down across the Great Plains.

This crap is getting out of hand, it's not enough for them to hijack television stations all night long, now we have to have the stormgasm "pregame show"...they can't even reliably predict the weather 30 minutes in advance with storms already on the radar.  How can they even begin to make predictions like these.  Seems a bit overreaching to me?

[Breadburner]

They are completely out of control.....Travis Meyer needs his a$$ kicked up around his ears....

[weatherwise]

I work in the industry and I even think that this is absolutely absurd.  

I am told by one of their chasers that they are required to make storms sound more dangerous then what is actually seen.  The only way to stop this is for the public to respond!  

How do you respond?  Don't watch....simple.

[Conan71]

"Pre-game show"  classic IP'ism. I gotta remember that one.

I guess the idea is to get us to camp out around our TV's tomorrow night.  Too bad for them this didn't happen during sweeps week. [xx(]

[mrhaskellok]

I can see I am going to have the unpopular position.  Not having a TV though makes me "special" already.  My vote, there is nothing on TV worth watching anymore anyway so too bad if you are chained to your chair and force fed the weather coverage.   Turn it off and pick up a book.  

Have a good day.  []

[Hoss]

Really has nothing to do with Newon6; the Norman WFO indicated the same thing last Friday, so I bet the 6 team picked that up.

000
FXUS64 KOUN 301556
AFDOUN

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
1056 AM CDT FRI MAY 30 2008

.DISCUSSION...JUST SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE GRIDS IN THE FIRST
PD. LOW LVL FLOW VEERING A BIT TODAY ALONG WITH FULL SUN SHOULD
ALLOW TEMPS TO WARMUP SEVERAL DEGREES OVER YESTERDAY. WILL BUMP UP
MAXES A BIT CNTRL AND NORTH BUT TEMPS ELSEWHERE LOOK OK. WILL ALSO
ADJUST WINDS A BIT. STILL LOOKS LIKE MAIN THREAT OF TSTMS WILL
REMAIN IN NRN OK THIS EVENING.


&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 402 AM CDT FRI MAY 30 2008/

DISCUSSION...
AREA WILL BE UNDER S EDGE OF THE WESTERLIES THROUGH EARLY NEXT
WEEK. FLOW ALOFT INITIALLY WILL REMAIN ZONAL WITH STRONGEST
WESTERLIES FROM THE DESERT SW E/ENE INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES
REGION. BROAD LOW-AMPLITUDE RIDGING DEVELOPS BY SAT OVER THE
ROCKIES THEN WORKS E INTO THE PLAINS SUN-MON AND THE MS VALLEY
REGION TUE. SFC FRONT CURRENTLY FROM SE NEB INTO SW KS IS PROGGED
TO SAG SE AND STALL ACROSS NW OK TODAY/TONIGHT WHILE CONTINUING
SE INTO OR VERY NEAR NCENTRAL/NE OK TONIGHT-SAT... QUITE POSSIBLY
AIDED BY EFFECTS OF CONVECTION. PROGGED CINH SUGGESTS LIMITED
CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR MOST OF THE DAY... BUT SOMEWHAT BETTER
CHANCES OF STORMS GETTING INTO AT LEAST NCENTRAL OK TONIGHT BEFORE
WEAKENING LATE. MID-LEVEL WINDS AND EFFECTIVE DEEP-LAYER SHEAR SHOULD
BE STRONG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SEVERE POTENTIAL ACROSS N OK. SIMILAR
SETUP SAT INTO SAT NIGHT WITH SLIGHTLY BETTER CHANCES OF STORM
INITIATION NEAR SFC BOUNDARY ACROSS N OK SAT AFTERNOON. RIDGING
ALOFT AND WEAKENING FRONTAL ZONE BY EARLY NEXT WEEK EXPECTED TO
REDUCE THE CHANCES OF STORMS BY SUN-MON.

LATTER HALF OF THE 7-DAY FORECAST LOOKING INTERESTING - AND
POTENTIALLY OMINOUS. CURRENT MEDIUM-RANGE MODELS INDICATE LARGE-
SCALE TROFING INTO THE W OR CENTRAL STATES BY MIDWEEK. GFS AND
ECMWF DEPICT UNSEASONABLY STRONG AMPLIFICATION OF A TROF OVER THE
ROCKIES... FOLLOWED BY PROGRESSION INTO THE PLAINS AROUND THU. THIS
SOLUTION HAS SUPPORT FROM THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN BUT WOULD BE
ATYPICAL FOR EARLY JUNE - ALTHOUGH NOT UNHEARD OF. JUNE 8 1974
COMES TO MIND. THERE CURRENTLY ARE ENOUGH DIFFERENCES IN MODEL
DETAILS... AND QUESTIONS REGARDING MODEL RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY AS
WELL AS THE DEPARTURE FROM SYNOPTIC CLIMATOLOGY... TO HOLD OFF ON
BUYING INTO THE AMPLIFIED SOLUTIONS OFFERED BY THE GFS/ECMWF. ON
THIS BASIS WE WILL STAY CLOSE TO THE GFS-MOS ON THIS FORECAST. BUT
SHOULD THE HIGH-AMPLITUDE SOLUTIONS PLAY OUT... THIS ALREADY-
ACTIVE SEVERE WEATHER SEASON WILL BE FAR FROM BEING OVER. IN
FACT... THE WORST MAY BE YET TO COME MID-LATE NEXT WEEK. 24

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
OKLAHOMA CITY OK  92  68  92  67 /   0  10  20  20
HOBART OK         97  69  98  67 /   0  10  10  10
WICHITA FALLS TX  96  71  98  70 /   0  10  10  10
GAGE OK           95  61  88  66 /  10  10  10  10
PONCA CITY OK     91  69  86  65 /  10  30  20  20
DURANT OK         89  67  91  69 /   0  10  10  10

&&

.OUN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
OK...NONE.
TX...NONE.
&&

$$

99/02

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by mrhaskellok

. . . there is nothing on TV worth watching anymore anyway -- except for So You Think You Can Dance.

Fixed that for you.  

(Anyone else have a hard time pulling themselves away from that damnable show?)

[Ibanez]

Has the world ended yet? I went down into the storm cellar last night just after Travis told me there was a giant tornado the size of Jupiter headed for the Great Plains today.

Decided it was better safe than sorry so I gathered up one 45 caliber automatic, two boxes of ammunition, four days concentrated emergency rations, one drug issue containing antibiotics, morphine, vitamin pills, pep pills, sleeping pills, tranquilizer pills, one miniature combination Rooshan phrase book and Bible, one hundred dollars in rubles, one hundred dollars in gold, nine packs of chewing gum, one issue of prophylactics, three lipsticks, three pair of nylon stockings -- shoot, a fellah could have a pretty good weekend in Vegas with all that stuff....

[cannon_fodder]

+1, I like the Dance Show.

I'm shame full.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

Really has nothing to do with Newon6; the Norman WFO indicated the same thing last Friday, so I bet the 6 team picked that up.

000
FXUS64 KOUN 301556
AFDOUN

AREA FORECAST DISCUSSION
NATIONAL WEATHER SERVICE NORMAN OK
1056 AM CDT FRI MAY 30 2008

.DISCUSSION...JUST SOME MINOR CHANGES TO THE GRIDS IN THE FIRST
PD. LOW LVL FLOW VEERING A BIT TODAY ALONG WITH FULL SUN SHOULD
ALLOW TEMPS TO WARMUP SEVERAL DEGREES OVER YESTERDAY. WILL BUMP UP
MAXES A BIT CNTRL AND NORTH BUT TEMPS ELSEWHERE LOOK OK. WILL ALSO
ADJUST WINDS A BIT. STILL LOOKS LIKE MAIN THREAT OF TSTMS WILL
REMAIN IN NRN OK THIS EVENING.


&&

.PREV DISCUSSION... /ISSUED 402 AM CDT FRI MAY 30 2008/

DISCUSSION...
AREA WILL BE UNDER S EDGE OF THE WESTERLIES THROUGH EARLY NEXT
WEEK. FLOW ALOFT INITIALLY WILL REMAIN ZONAL WITH STRONGEST
WESTERLIES FROM THE DESERT SW E/ENE INTO THE LOWER GREAT LAKES
REGION. BROAD LOW-AMPLITUDE RIDGING DEVELOPS BY SAT OVER THE
ROCKIES THEN WORKS E INTO THE PLAINS SUN-MON AND THE MS VALLEY
REGION TUE. SFC FRONT CURRENTLY FROM SE NEB INTO SW KS IS PROGGED
TO SAG SE AND STALL ACROSS NW OK TODAY/TONIGHT WHILE CONTINUING
SE INTO OR VERY NEAR NCENTRAL/NE OK TONIGHT-SAT... QUITE POSSIBLY
AIDED BY EFFECTS OF CONVECTION. PROGGED CINH SUGGESTS LIMITED
CONVECTIVE DEVELOPMENT FOR MOST OF THE DAY... BUT SOMEWHAT BETTER
CHANCES OF STORMS GETTING INTO AT LEAST NCENTRAL OK TONIGHT BEFORE
WEAKENING LATE. MID-LEVEL WINDS AND EFFECTIVE DEEP-LAYER SHEAR SHOULD
BE STRONG ENOUGH TO SUPPORT SEVERE POTENTIAL ACROSS N OK. SIMILAR
SETUP SAT INTO SAT NIGHT WITH SLIGHTLY BETTER CHANCES OF STORM
INITIATION NEAR SFC BOUNDARY ACROSS N OK SAT AFTERNOON. RIDGING
ALOFT AND WEAKENING FRONTAL ZONE BY EARLY NEXT WEEK EXPECTED TO
REDUCE THE CHANCES OF STORMS BY SUN-MON.

LATTER HALF OF THE 7-DAY FORECAST LOOKING INTERESTING - AND
POTENTIALLY OMINOUS. CURRENT MEDIUM-RANGE MODELS INDICATE LARGE-
SCALE TROFING INTO THE W OR CENTRAL STATES BY MIDWEEK. GFS AND
ECMWF DEPICT UNSEASONABLY STRONG AMPLIFICATION OF A TROF OVER THE
ROCKIES... FOLLOWED BY PROGRESSION INTO THE PLAINS AROUND THU. THIS
SOLUTION HAS SUPPORT FROM THE GFS ENSEMBLE MEAN BUT WOULD BE
ATYPICAL FOR EARLY JUNE - ALTHOUGH NOT UNHEARD OF. JUNE 8 1974
COMES TO MIND. THERE CURRENTLY ARE ENOUGH DIFFERENCES IN MODEL
DETAILS... AND QUESTIONS REGARDING MODEL RUN-TO-RUN CONSISTENCY AS
WELL AS THE DEPARTURE FROM SYNOPTIC CLIMATOLOGY... TO HOLD OFF ON
BUYING INTO THE AMPLIFIED SOLUTIONS OFFERED BY THE GFS/ECMWF. ON
THIS BASIS WE WILL STAY CLOSE TO THE GFS-MOS ON THIS FORECAST. BUT
SHOULD THE HIGH-AMPLITUDE SOLUTIONS PLAY OUT... THIS ALREADY-
ACTIVE SEVERE WEATHER SEASON WILL BE FAR FROM BEING OVER. IN
FACT... THE WORST MAY BE YET TO COME MID-LATE NEXT WEEK. 24

&&

.PRELIMINARY POINT TEMPS/POPS...
OKLAHOMA CITY OK  92  68  92  67 /   0  10  20  20
HOBART OK         97  69  98  67 /   0  10  10  10
WICHITA FALLS TX  96  71  98  70 /   0  10  10  10
GAGE OK           95  61  88  66 /  10  10  10  10
PONCA CITY OK     91  69  86  65 /  10  30  20  20
DURANT OK         89  67  91  69 /   0  10  10  10

&&

.OUN WATCHES/WARNINGS/ADVISORIES...
OK...NONE.
TX...NONE.
&&

$$

99/02

Nothing to do with KOTV other than the gigantic weather boner caused by reading that report.

[PonderInc]

I typcially don't watch TV or TV News...as life is too short.  Just heard that the average American spends 32 hours a week in front of the tube.  Can't quite imagine that...I don't even have time to watch the Netflix movies I get (the latest one has been sitting by the TV for about 3 weeks now).  I guess about 4 1/2 hours of TV a day explains the lack of civic engagement; why people don't know their neighbors; and the obesity epidemic...among other things. (Now, if I could just pull myself away from this damn forum![])

As for TV weather...the hysteria really wears me out.  They seem to get off on scaring people to death.  "Chance-of-tornado orgasm coming up at 5!"

If the sirens are going off, I turn on the TV to see if "Death Viper 12" says they're headed for my house.  But that's about it.

[breitee]

They are all a**holes!

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
This crap is getting out of hand, it's not enough for them to hijack television stations all night long, now we have to have the stormgasm "pregame show"...they can't even reliably predict the weather 30 minutes in advance with storms already on the radar.  How can they even begin to make predictions like these.  Seems a bit overreaching to me?

They probably do better than you do at the forecasting. [xx(]

Besides, the setup is pretty ominous today. Of course, many times literally nothing comes of it, but we'll see over the next few hours. Certainly it'll be a fun time up in Nebraska and Iowa.

You act like it's a bad thing to get people to keep an eye turned toward the sky (or an ear to the tv, radio, or whatever) on a day when a particularly bad severe weather outbreak is likely. The Tulsa WFO's discussion is sounding pretty ominous, too.

Of course, if it turns out nothing happens today, you'll be yelling about how stupid the weather forecasters are, even though they're usually pretty accurate. I suppose we should go back to the days before modern forecasting and just let the plebes die. Who needs all these fancy tornado sirens and what have you.

I wanna die watching my TV shows damn you!

[bokworker]

Might be a tough call with the NBA finals starting tonight.... reckon a weatherman is going to put his job on the line if we have tornados in the area? ABC is channel 6 right?

yeah, Travis will do it....

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

quote:Originally posted by iplaw
This crap is getting out of hand, it's not enough for them to hijack television stations all night long, now we have to have the stormgasm "pregame show"...they can't even reliably predict the weather 30 minutes in advance with storms already on the radar.  How can they even begin to make predictions like these.  Seems a bit overreaching to me?

They probably do better than you do at the forecasting. [xx(]

Besides, the setup is pretty ominous today. Of course, many times literally nothing comes of it, but we'll see over the next few hours. Certainly it'll be a fun time up in Nebraska and Iowa.

You act like it's a bad thing to get people to keep an eye turned toward the sky (or an ear to the tv, radio, or whatever) on a day when a particularly bad severe weather outbreak is likely. The Tulsa WFO's discussion is sounding pretty ominous, too.

Of course, if it turns out nothing happens today, you'll be yelling about how stupid the weather forecasters are, even though they're usually pretty accurate. I suppose we should go back to the days before modern forecasting and just let the plebes die. Who needs all these fancy tornado sirens and what have you.

I wanna die watching my TV shows damn you!

Your points have been addressed ad nauseam. There is no need for wall-to-wall weather coverage on four networks for the entire night. They all have the same "forecast of doom" machines cranking out the same information.  

The FCC should allow only ONE station a night the ability to have a continuous broadcast of weather information unless that station loses power.  There is NO need to have 4 stations simultaneously covering the same weather events all night long.