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Started by Friendly Bear, June 28, 2008, 09:45:14 AM

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TURobY

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Originally posted by Double A

And why are occupancy rates up? It wouldn't have anything to do with Da Mare's Krystal Kastle   being taken off the market, artificially boosting occupancy rates in the private market, now would it?


It's possible that the City Hall move would account for a small percentage, but I also know several businesses relocating or starting downtown.

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Gold

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Originally posted by MichaelBates

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear


Lamson sure isn't spending any money on talent.



When you're a farm team, the big league team signs the talent and decides who will be on your roster. Lamson has no choice in the matter.



You're right, but the point is sort of cute.  Lamson actually isn't spending a dime on the players.  Agree, it's a "so what" -- but kind of funny in the unintentional troll humor sort of way.

Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by MichaelBates

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear


Lamson sure isn't spending any money on talent.



When you're a farm team, the big league team signs the talent and decides who will be on your roster. Lamson has no choice in the matter.



You're right, but the point is sort of cute.  Lamson actually isn't spending a dime on the players.  Agree, it's a "so what" -- but kind of funny in the unintentional troll humor sort of way.



I was refering to the Driller's win/lost record:

They're in the Cellar.......

RecycleMichael

#63
No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Hometown

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Originally posted by Double A

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

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Originally posted by Double A
I am sick of good money being thrown after bad downtown.


I believe you are in the minority on this one. Downtown is doing very well right now. Occupancy rates are up, new restaurants have opened and the after-hours clubs are beginning to get busy.

The arena is going to make everything better downtown. When this ballpark opens, the place to be is going to be downtown.

Why are you so negative?



And why are occupancy rates up? It wouldn't have anything to do with Da Mare's Krystal Kastle   being taken off the market, artificially boosting occupancy rates in the private market, now would it? Why are you so full of sh*t? This town needs an enema and so do you. BTW, isn't your "private" business located close to the site where the new ballpark is proposed? How many other "private" businesses have their own public trust with the city?



You know Double A, It's not like we are in New York where you never see anyone again.  Tulsa is such a small town and I am certain all of us will cross paths if we haven't already, but you treat everyone here like they are disposable and of no count at all.  You need to talk to everyone here like we know where you park.  Like we know where you live.  I think by now we all have a good sense of what kind of person you are.

In fact there is this union man that lives behind me who is always displaying his poor upbringing as he carries on about wetbacks ...


Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by MichaelBates

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear


Lamson sure isn't spending any money on talent.



When you're a farm team, the big league team signs the talent and decides who will be on your roster. Lamson has no choice in the matter.



You're right, but the point is sort of cute.  Lamson actually isn't spending a dime on the players.  Agree, it's a "so what" -- but kind of funny in the unintentional troll humor sort of way.



I was refering to the Driller's win/lost record:

They're in the Cellar.......




Do you just like to get taken down for false statements?

In addition to above stated point that they are currently in first, also note that their record usually means nothing to attendance.  People go to drink beer and be outside.  I've been to Drillers playoff games and, as they are usually during football season, the place is a tomb.  Doesn't matter one bit to their business plan.

Do you actually know anything about anything?  Or do you just like making stuff up on the fly?  Can we have post like Friendly Bear day where we all get to make up whatever falsehood we want?

Double A

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Originally posted by Hometown

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Originally posted by Double A

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

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Originally posted by Double A
I am sick of good money being thrown after bad downtown.


I believe you are in the minority on this one. Downtown is doing very well right now. Occupancy rates are up, new restaurants have opened and the after-hours clubs are beginning to get busy.

The arena is going to make everything better downtown. When this ballpark opens, the place to be is going to be downtown.

Why are you so negative?



And why are occupancy rates up? It wouldn't have anything to do with Da Mare's Krystal Kastle   being taken off the market, artificially boosting occupancy rates in the private market, now would it? Why are you so full of sh*t? This town needs an enema and so do you. BTW, isn't your "private" business located close to the site where the new ballpark is proposed? How many other "private" businesses have their own public trust with the city?



You know Double A, It's not like we are in New York where you never see anyone again.  Tulsa is such a small town and I am certain all of us will cross paths if we haven't already, but you treat everyone here like they are disposable and of no count at all.  You need to talk to everyone here like we know where you park.  Like we know where you live.  I think by now we all have a good sense of what kind of person you are.

In fact there is this union man that lives behind me who is always displaying his poor upbringing as he carries on about wetbacks ...





Bring it on. I won't back down, unlike gutless Tulsa Now elites. I will stand my ground and protect my perimeter by any means necessary. You've been warned, proceed at your own peril.
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Hometown

Man, if anyone ever needed a potato in the tailpipe it's you.  On the other hand, this is a forum for the free expression of ideas and I guess that covers what you do, but you treat people here so badly.  You say you were raised in Tulsa but I sure don't see it.  You have no manners at all.  I mean, "Bring it on."  Give me a break.  


Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.



So, what happens to their first half of season record?

Written-off like our loan to Great Plains Airlines?

They were DEAD last in the league a few weeks ago.

Abysmal.

Gold

#69
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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.




So, what happens to their first half of season record?

Written-off like our loan to Great Plains Airlines?

They were DEAD last in the league a few weeks ago.

Abysmal.



The first half leader plays the second half leader in the playoffs.  Given the way the minors work (with so many players moving during the season), you usually want to win the second half because that means you have a better shot in the playoffs (you have the good players late in the year).  The Drillers have won a couple of first half pennants in recent years, only to totally collapse in the playoffs.


You know, if you'd just ask the question rather than inserting the random emoticons and tossing in baseless assertions ("abysmal" above), you might be a halfway decent poster.  But as it stands, you're sort of like the NIT Picker on the World Picker's blog . . . a constant source of amusement for those who actually pay attention to things and understand nuance.

Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.




So, what happens to their first half of season record?

Written-off like our loan to Great Plains Airlines?

They were DEAD last in the league a few weeks ago.

Abysmal.



The first half leader plays the second half leader in the playoffs.  Given the way the minors work (with so many players moving during the season), you usually want to win the second half because that means you have a better shot in the playoffs (you have the good players late in the year).  The Drillers have won a couple of first half pennants in recent years, only to totally collapse in the playoffs.


You know, if you'd just ask the question rather than inserting the random emoticons and tossing in baseless assertions ("abysmal" above), you might be a halfway decent poster.  But as it stands, you're sort of like the NIT Picker on the World Picker's blog . . . a constant source of amusement for those who actually pay attention to things and understand nuance.



I'd say finishing in the League's cellar for the First Half is pretty abysmal.


Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.




So, what happens to their first half of season record?

Written-off like our loan to Great Plains Airlines?

They were DEAD last in the league a few weeks ago.

Abysmal.



The first half leader plays the second half leader in the playoffs.  Given the way the minors work (with so many players moving during the season), you usually want to win the second half because that means you have a better shot in the playoffs (you have the good players late in the year).  The Drillers have won a couple of first half pennants in recent years, only to totally collapse in the playoffs.


You know, if you'd just ask the question rather than inserting the random emoticons and tossing in baseless assertions ("abysmal" above), you might be a halfway decent poster.  But as it stands, you're sort of like the NIT Picker on the World Picker's blog . . . a constant source of amusement for those who actually pay attention to things and understand nuance.



I'd say finishing in the League's cellar for the First Half is pretty abysmal.





And like I noted above, it doesn't appear to make much of a difference.  People go and have fun and they still appear to be making money (that's a unique part of the Drillers experience, people go no matter what).  You even essentially admit you don't know what you're talking about (didn't even know there was a first half pennant).  Finally, you also concede that it doesn't matter if they have an abysmal first half finish.

C'mon, keep it up, I love messing with trolls.

Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.




So, what happens to their first half of season record?

Written-off like our loan to Great Plains Airlines?

They were DEAD last in the league a few weeks ago.

Abysmal.



The first half leader plays the second half leader in the playoffs.  Given the way the minors work (with so many players moving during the season), you usually want to win the second half because that means you have a better shot in the playoffs (you have the good players late in the year).  The Drillers have won a couple of first half pennants in recent years, only to totally collapse in the playoffs.


You know, if you'd just ask the question rather than inserting the random emoticons and tossing in baseless assertions ("abysmal" above), you might be a halfway decent poster.  But as it stands, you're sort of like the NIT Picker on the World Picker's blog . . . a constant source of amusement for those who actually pay attention to things and understand nuance.



I'd say finishing in the League's cellar for the First Half is pretty abysmal.





And like I noted above, it doesn't appear to make much of a difference.  People go and have fun and they still appear to be making money (that's a unique part of the Drillers experience, people go no matter what).  You even essentially admit you don't know what you're talking about (didn't even know there was a first half pennant).  Finally, you also concede that it doesn't matter if they have an abysmal first half finish.

C'mon, keep it up, I love messing with trolls.



The Drillers matter little to me.  

I rarely attend their games.

However, instituting a new 30-year tax on downtown property owners DOES matter to me.

Double A

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Originally posted by Hometown

Man, if anyone ever needed a potato in the tailpipe it's you.  On the other hand, this is a forum for the free expression of ideas and I guess that covers what you do, but you treat people here so badly.  You say you were raised in Tulsa but I sure don't see it.  You have no manners at all.  I mean, "Bring it on."  Give me a break.  





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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by Gold

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No bear.

The Drillers play a split season and have already started the second half. They are in first place.

You must be tired of being wrong so often.




So, what happens to their first half of season record?

Written-off like our loan to Great Plains Airlines?

They were DEAD last in the league a few weeks ago.

Abysmal.



The first half leader plays the second half leader in the playoffs.  Given the way the minors work (with so many players moving during the season), you usually want to win the second half because that means you have a better shot in the playoffs (you have the good players late in the year).  The Drillers have won a couple of first half pennants in recent years, only to totally collapse in the playoffs.


You know, if you'd just ask the question rather than inserting the random emoticons and tossing in baseless assertions ("abysmal" above), you might be a halfway decent poster.  But as it stands, you're sort of like the NIT Picker on the World Picker's blog . . . a constant source of amusement for those who actually pay attention to things and understand nuance.



I'd say finishing in the League's cellar for the First Half is pretty abysmal.





And like I noted above, it doesn't appear to make much of a difference.  People go and have fun and they still appear to be making money (that's a unique part of the Drillers experience, people go no matter what).  You even essentially admit you don't know what you're talking about (didn't even know there was a first half pennant).  Finally, you also concede that it doesn't matter if they have an abysmal first half finish.

C'mon, keep it up, I love messing with trolls.



The Drillers matter little to me.  

I rarely attend their games.

However, instituting a new 30-year tax on downtown property owners DOES matter to me.




At 4 cents per square ft, per year, we are not talking a lot of money. A 3,000 sq ft restaurant would only pay $120 a year. The biggest office building in the state, the 1.3 million sq ft BOk tower would only rack up $52,000 a year. It's not a big tax.