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Started by PonderInc, July 07, 2008, 01:35:22 PM

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rwarn17588

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by SXSW

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd
They already bid it out--Manhattan Construction is building the thing.  I think their bid basically included a donation, so they came in cheapest.  Manhattan did a hell of a job on Memorial Stadium for OU; they're defintely capable of building great stadiums.


I think Manhattan will do a great job. They do good work. I heard they were selected and then decided to donate a million dollars to the project. I think they really wanted to be part of such an important project.



Manhattan and Flintco are pretty much the go-to companies for medium and large construction projects in Oklahoma.  Which is great because both are family-owned companies with deep Oklahoma roots and both are based in Tulsa.  Both are also multi-billion dollar companies with branch offices in many other states (and Manhattan even has one in Mexico City).



And, both receive NO BID contracts from Title 60 Pubic Trusts.

In 1973, Flinto received a NO-BID contract to build the Performing Arts Center.  

ONLY A 30% COST OVERRUN.

In a short 30 years later in 2003, didn't Flint-Rooney receive a NO-BID contract to build the Kaiser BOK Arena?

Tulsa VISION Builders.  Why compete.  

Divide and Conquer!

Hmmmmh???

What was THEIR cost overrrun?

50%?

What was their cost overrun on the State Capitol Dome?

For 70 years, Oklahomans had NO DOME on our State Capitol?

I ALWAYS felt soooooo inferior to other states that had a dome on their state capitol.

Finally, I can now feel MUCH better now that 100% cost overruns have been delivered to the Tulsa Oligarch Familias.

And, we have a DOME.

Much better.

Much.

Old Chrome Dome Gov. Frank Keating arranged a Dome on the state capitol.

I saw it recently, and I was positively:  Inspired.

Lifted up.

Exhuberant.

P.S. Will Anyone hold the Flint-Skin/Looney Rooney Tune Oligarch Families accountable, because they recycle 1% of their ill-gotten gains to pass new tax initiatives and tax renewals?

HOW pubic spirited!

And, their quality?

A word comes to mind:

Scheise.

Dreck.

Aktuel Scheise, mein Kamaraden:

Does our City of Tulsa Publik Werkes management know that to criticize their substandard construction is a Career-Ender?

Auf Wiedersen, bubi!  

Good-bye Tulsa.  Hello Duluth.

Alles ist Kaput!

Gott bless that Pubic Spurtedness!

Say, who constructed our Mold Ridden Tulsa City Hall?

Flint-Skins, or Looney-Rooney Tunes?

And, just TODAY, didn't the Manhattan/Rooney Tune Oligarchia Familia receive a NO-BID contract to construct the new Driller Stadium in the 'hood.

A $30 million Drillers baseball stadium for only:

$60 million.

What a DEAL!

I'm thinking of changing religions.

Do I have enough money to receive a catachism?

Teh-heh.

Keep Praying, and old WKW will be prayed up from the 7th Circle of Hell.  

Someday.

I'm SURE of it.

With enough prayer, based on his level of sins, he might make it up to Purgatory in about:

Oh say.....

One Thousand Years.

Pray HARDER.

And, keep the Money and the Concrete flowing.

That WILL help.  

Them.

[}:)]



Christ, what a train wreck that post is.

But unlike the real thing, it's a boring train wreck.

You'd think after the beating you took from your lack of knowledge of baseball and the Texas League, you'd back off. A smarter man would. But, no.

Why don't you take your brand of crazy over to the Voice of Tulsa, freerepublic.com or Bates' blog? They seem a lot more tolerant of nutcases over there.

Over here, people know you're just an insane old crank.

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by SXSW

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd
They already bid it out--Manhattan Construction is building the thing.  I think their bid basically included a donation, so they came in cheapest.  Manhattan did a hell of a job on Memorial Stadium for OU; they're defintely capable of building great stadiums.


I think Manhattan will do a great job. They do good work. I heard they were selected and then decided to donate a million dollars to the project. I think they really wanted to be part of such an important project.



Manhattan and Flintco are pretty much the go-to companies for medium and large construction projects in Oklahoma.  Which is great because both are family-owned companies with deep Oklahoma roots and both are based in Tulsa.  Both are also multi-billion dollar companies with branch offices in many other states (and Manhattan even has one in Mexico City).



And, both receive NO BID contracts from Title 60 Pubic Trusts.

In 1973, Flinto received a NO-BID contract to build the Performing Arts Center.  

ONLY A 30% COST OVERRUN.

In a short 30 years later in 2003, didn't Flint-Rooney receive a NO-BID contract to build the Kaiser BOK Arena?

Tulsa VISION Builders.  Why compete.  

Divide and Conquer!

Hmmmmh???

What was THEIR cost overrrun?

50%?

What was their cost overrun on the State Capitol Dome?

For 70 years, Oklahomans had NO DOME on our State Capitol?

I ALWAYS felt soooooo inferior to other states that had a dome on their state capitol.

Finally, I can now feel MUCH better now that 100% cost overruns have been delivered to the Tulsa Oligarch Familias.

And, we have a DOME.

Much better.

Much.

Old Chrome Dome Gov. Frank Keating arranged a Dome on the state capitol.

I saw it recently, and I was positively:  Inspired.

Lifted up.

Exhuberant.

P.S. Will Anyone hold the Flint-Skin/Looney Rooney Tune Oligarch Families accountable, because they recycle 1% of their ill-gotten gains to pass new tax initiatives and tax renewals?

HOW pubic spirited!

And, their quality?

A word comes to mind:

Scheise.

Dreck.

Aktuel Scheise, mein Kamaraden:

Does our City of Tulsa Publik Werkes management know that to criticize their substandard construction is a Career-Ender?

Auf Wiedersen, bubi!  

Good-bye Tulsa.  Hello Duluth.

Alles ist Kaput!

Gott bless that Pubic Spurtedness!

Say, who constructed our Mold Ridden Tulsa City Hall?

Flint-Skins, or Looney-Rooney Tunes?

And, just TODAY, didn't the Manhattan/Rooney Tune Oligarchia Familia receive a NO-BID contract to construct the new Driller Stadium in the 'hood.

A $30 million Drillers baseball stadium for only:

$60 million.

What a DEAL!

I'm thinking of changing religions.

Do I have enough money to receive a catachism?

Teh-heh.

Keep Praying, and old WKW will be prayed up from the 7th Circle of Hell.  

Someday.

I'm SURE of it.

With enough prayer, based on his level of sins, he might make it up to Purgatory in about:

Oh say.....

One Thousand Years.

Pray HARDER.

And, keep the Money and the Concrete flowing.

That WILL help.  

Them.

[}:)]




Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by SXSW

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd
They already bid it out--Manhattan Construction is building the thing.  I think their bid basically included a donation, so they came in cheapest.  Manhattan did a hell of a job on Memorial Stadium for OU; they're defintely capable of building great stadiums.


I think Manhattan will do a great job. They do good work. I heard they were selected and then decided to donate a million dollars to the project. I think they really wanted to be part of such an important project.



Manhattan and Flintco are pretty much the go-to companies for medium and large construction projects in Oklahoma.  Which is great because both are family-owned companies with deep Oklahoma roots and both are based in Tulsa.  Both are also multi-billion dollar companies with branch offices in many other states (and Manhattan even has one in Mexico City).



And, both receive NO BID contracts from Title 60 Pubic Trusts.

In 1973, Flinto received a NO-BID contract to build the Performing Arts Center.  

ONLY A 30% COST OVERRUN.

In a short 30 years later in 2003, didn't Flint-Rooney receive a NO-BID contract to build the Kaiser BOK Arena?

Tulsa VISION Builders.  Why compete.  

Divide and Conquer!

Hmmmmh???

What was THEIR cost overrrun?

50%?

What was their cost overrun on the State Capitol Dome?

For 70 years, Oklahomans had NO DOME on our State Capitol?

I ALWAYS felt soooooo inferior to other states that had a dome on their state capitol.

Finally, I can now feel MUCH better now that 100% cost overruns have been delivered to the Tulsa Oligarch Familias.

And, we have a DOME.

Much better.

Much.

Old Chrome Dome Gov. Frank Keating arranged a Dome on the state capitol.

I saw it recently, and I was positively:  Inspired.

Lifted up.

Exhuberant.

P.S. Will Anyone hold the Flint-Skin/Looney Rooney Tune Oligarch Families accountable, because they recycle 1% of their ill-gotten gains to pass new tax initiatives and tax renewals?

HOW pubic spirited!

And, their quality?

A word comes to mind:

Scheise.

Dreck.

Aktuel Scheise, mein Kamaraden:

Does our City of Tulsa Publik Werkes management know that to criticize their substandard construction is a Career-Ender?

Auf Wiedersen, bubi!  

Good-bye Tulsa.  Hello Duluth.

Alles ist Kaput!

Gott bless that Pubic Spurtedness!

Say, who constructed our Mold Ridden Tulsa City Hall?

Flint-Skins, or Looney-Rooney Tunes?

And, just TODAY, didn't the Manhattan/Rooney Tune Oligarchia Familia receive a NO-BID contract to construct the new Driller Stadium in the 'hood.

A $30 million Drillers baseball stadium for only:

$60 million.

What a DEAL!

I'm thinking of changing religions.

Do I have enough money to receive a catachism?

Teh-heh.

Keep Praying, and old WKW will be prayed up from the 7th Circle of Hell.  

Someday.

I'm SURE of it.

With enough prayer, based on his level of sins, he might make it up to Purgatory in about:

Oh say.....

One Thousand Years.

Pray HARDER.

And, keep the Money and the Concrete flowing.

That WILL help.  

Them.

[}:)]



Christ, what a train wreck that post is.

But unlike the real thing, it's a boring train wreck.

You'd think after the beating you took from your lack of knowledge of baseball and the Texas League, you'd back off. A smarter man would. But, no.

Why don't you take your brand of crazy over to the Voice of Tulsa, freerepublic.com or Bates' blog? They seem a lot more tolerant of nutcases over there.

Over here, people know you're just an insane old crank.



Feel free to show me WHERE I'm wrong......

[8D]

MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by SXSW

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd
They already bid it out--Manhattan Construction is building the thing.  I think their bid basically included a donation, so they came in cheapest.  Manhattan did a hell of a job on Memorial Stadium for OU; they're defintely capable of building great stadiums.


I think Manhattan will do a great job. They do good work. I heard they were selected and then decided to donate a million dollars to the project. I think they really wanted to be part of such an important project.



Manhattan and Flintco are pretty much the go-to companies for medium and large construction projects in Oklahoma.  Which is great because both are family-owned companies with deep Oklahoma roots and both are based in Tulsa.  Both are also multi-billion dollar companies with branch offices in many other states (and Manhattan even has one in Mexico City).



And, both receive NO BID contracts from Title 60 Pubic Trusts.

In 1973, Flinto received a NO-BID contract to build the Performing Arts Center.  

ONLY A 30% COST OVERRUN.

In a short 30 years later in 2003, didn't Flint-Rooney receive a NO-BID contract to build the Kaiser BOK Arena?

Tulsa VISION Builders.  Why compete.  

Divide and Conquer!

Hmmmmh???

What was THEIR cost overrrun?

50%?

What was their cost overrun on the State Capitol Dome?

For 70 years, Oklahomans had NO DOME on our State Capitol?

I ALWAYS felt soooooo inferior to other states that had a dome on their state capitol.

Finally, I can now feel MUCH better now that 100% cost overruns have been delivered to the Tulsa Oligarch Familias.

And, we have a DOME.

Much better.

Much.

Old Chrome Dome Gov. Frank Keating arranged a Dome on the state capitol.

I saw it recently, and I was positively:  Inspired.

Lifted up.

Exhuberant.

P.S. Will Anyone hold the Flint-Skin/Looney Rooney Tune Oligarch Families accountable, because they recycle 1% of their ill-gotten gains to pass new tax initiatives and tax renewals?

HOW pubic spirited!

And, their quality?

A word comes to mind:

Scheise.

Dreck.

Aktuel Scheise, mein Kamaraden:

Does our City of Tulsa Publik Werkes management know that to criticize their substandard construction is a Career-Ender?

Auf Wiedersen, bubi!  

Good-bye Tulsa.  Hello Duluth.

Alles ist Kaput!

Gott bless that Pubic Spurtedness!

Say, who constructed our Mold Ridden Tulsa City Hall?

Flint-Skins, or Looney-Rooney Tunes?

And, just TODAY, didn't the Manhattan/Rooney Tune Oligarchia Familia receive a NO-BID contract to construct the new Driller Stadium in the 'hood.

A $30 million Drillers baseball stadium for only:

$60 million.

What a DEAL!

I'm thinking of changing religions.

Do I have enough money to receive a catachism?

Teh-heh.

Keep Praying, and old WKW will be prayed up from the 7th Circle of Hell.  

Someday.

I'm SURE of it.

With enough prayer, based on his level of sins, he might make it up to Purgatory in about:

Oh say.....

One Thousand Years.

Pray HARDER.

And, keep the Money and the Concrete flowing.

That WILL help.  

Them.

[}:)]



Christ, what a train wreck that post is.

But unlike the real thing, it's a boring train wreck.

You'd think after the beating you took from your lack of knowledge of baseball and the Texas League, you'd back off. A smarter man would. But, no.

Why don't you take your brand of crazy over to the Voice of Tulsa, freerepublic.com or Bates' blog? They seem a lot more tolerant of nutcases over there.

Over here, people know you're just an insane old crank.



Why are you always *itching , geez get a life[:X]

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by SXSW

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd
They already bid it out--Manhattan Construction is building the thing.  I think their bid basically included a donation, so they came in cheapest.  Manhattan did a hell of a job on Memorial Stadium for OU; they're defintely capable of building great stadiums.


I think Manhattan will do a great job. They do good work. I heard they were selected and then decided to donate a million dollars to the project. I think they really wanted to be part of such an important project.



Manhattan and Flintco are pretty much the go-to companies for medium and large construction projects in Oklahoma.  Which is great because both are family-owned companies with deep Oklahoma roots and both are based in Tulsa.  Both are also multi-billion dollar companies with branch offices in many other states (and Manhattan even has one in Mexico City).



And, both receive NO BID contracts from Title 60 Pubic Trusts.

In 1973, Flinto received a NO-BID contract to build the Performing Arts Center.  

ONLY A 30% COST OVERRUN.

In a short 30 years later in 2003, didn't Flint-Rooney receive a NO-BID contract to build the Kaiser BOK Arena?

Tulsa VISION Builders.  Why compete.  

Divide and Conquer!

Hmmmmh???

What was THEIR cost overrrun?

50%?

What was their cost overrun on the State Capitol Dome?

For 70 years, Oklahomans had NO DOME on our State Capitol?

I ALWAYS felt soooooo inferior to other states that had a dome on their state capitol.

Finally, I can now feel MUCH better now that 100% cost overruns have been delivered to the Tulsa Oligarch Familias.

And, we have a DOME.

Much better.

Much.

Old Chrome Dome Gov. Frank Keating arranged a Dome on the state capitol.

I saw it recently, and I was positively:  Inspired.

Lifted up.

Exhuberant.

P.S. Will Anyone hold the Flint-Skin/Looney Rooney Tune Oligarch Families accountable, because they recycle 1% of their ill-gotten gains to pass new tax initiatives and tax renewals?

HOW pubic spirited!

And, their quality?

A word comes to mind:

Scheise.

Dreck.

Aktuel Scheise, mein Kamaraden:

Does our City of Tulsa Publik Werkes management know that to criticize their substandard construction is a Career-Ender?

Auf Wiedersen, bubi!  

Good-bye Tulsa.  Hello Duluth.

Alles ist Kaput!

Gott bless that Pubic Spurtedness!

Say, who constructed our Mold Ridden Tulsa City Hall?

Flint-Skins, or Looney-Rooney Tunes?

And, just TODAY, didn't the Manhattan/Rooney Tune Oligarchia Familia receive a NO-BID contract to construct the new Driller Stadium in the 'hood.

A $30 million Drillers baseball stadium for only:

$60 million.

What a DEAL!

I'm thinking of changing religions.

Do I have enough money to receive a catachism?

Teh-heh.

Keep Praying, and old WKW will be prayed up from the 7th Circle of Hell.  

Someday.

I'm SURE of it.

With enough prayer, based on his level of sins, he might make it up to Purgatory in about:

Oh say.....

One Thousand Years.

Pray HARDER.

And, keep the Money and the Concrete flowing.

That WILL help.  

Them.

[}:)]



Christ, what a train wreck that post is.

But unlike the real thing, it's a boring train wreck.

You'd think after the beating you took from your lack of knowledge of baseball and the Texas League, you'd back off. A smarter man would. But, no.

Why don't you take your brand of crazy over to the Voice of Tulsa, freerepublic.com or Bates' blog? They seem a lot more tolerant of nutcases over there.

Over here, people know you're just an insane old crank.



Why are you always *itching , geez get a life[:X]



Complain?

Who ME complain?

Just trying to document for the discerning Tulsa area public how things really operate for the benefit of the Ruling Oligarchy Families, here in the Banana Republic of Tulsa.

[:O]

dsjeffries

You need help.  End of discussion.

I can't wait to go for a stroll downtown, accidentally catch a baseball game and then wander over to the Living Arts Center in the Mathews Warehouse before getting some delicious chocolates from CFC Chocolatier.

booWorld

I figured that there would be some sort of legal action filed to prevent the revised business improvement district assessments, but this has happened fast...

Double A

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by Floyd
They already bid it out--Manhattan Construction is building the thing.  I think their bid basically included a donation, so they came in cheapest.  Manhattan did a hell of a job on Memorial Stadium for OU; they're defintely capable of building great stadiums.


I think Manhattan will do a great job. They do good work. I heard they were selected and then decided to donate a million dollars to the project. I think they really wanted to be part of such an important project.



Reminds me of when Manhattan donated money to St. Johns and got the contract for their 28 million dollar expansion. When they started to get behind schedule and incur late penalties there was suddenly a fire after regular working hours and insurance picked up the tab from then on out. It's an investment, not a donation. The Rooney's always get a return on their investments. Watch for the change orders on this stadium, that is if they even have to go through the Council for approval. Da Mare probably set this deal up she could approve them by executive order or by the sole authority of this new unaccountable Trust. Since the majority of this Trust will be made up of donors, I wonder if Manhattan will have representatives serving?
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The clash of ideas is the sound of freedom. Ars Longa, Vita Brevis!

Rico

Originally posted by Double A.
"I wonder if Manhattan will have representatives serving?"



Dunno..... Might call the Vatican and ask.

Friendly Bear

#114
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Originally posted by Double A.
"I wonder if Manhattan will have representatives serving?"



Dunno..... Might call the Vatican and ask.




Manhattan Construction has been around about 100 years.

Like Flintco.

While our disposable local pimping politicians come; and go.

When their moral authority is drained by serial lies and half-truth from their finite Well of Credibility, then the local Controlling Power Elite have several "Reformers" waiting in reserve, to replace their worn out brand.

Thanks for Great Plains Airlines, Mayor Susan.  Your usefulness is now over.  Good-bye.

But, here's a nice State Government job to keep you in groceries, for services previously rendered.

I suspect this whole Stadium deal is actually very, very simple:

Cash Flow for Manhattan Construction Co.

Why?

The BOK Arena will be finished in September.  Hence, the $200 million sales tax gravy train for the Rooney/Flints will shortly dry up.

Coincidentally, Mayor Kathy Taylor wants to break ground on the new Stadium in:

September.

To keep the concrete flowing?

And, then maybe they will help her become Governor in 2010.....

Whadya think?

Maybe?

[;)]

Friendly Bear

#115
quote:
Originally posted by Rico

Originally posted by Double A.
"I wonder if Manhattan will have representatives serving?"



Dunno..... Might call the Vatican and ask.




Wonder if a Rooney would answer the phone?

Calling Ambassador to the Vatican Francis Rooney.................

Francis Rooney is CEO of Rooney Holdings, Inc., an investment and holding company based in Naples, Florida, with administrative offices in Tulsa, Oklahoma.

Rooney Holdings emerged from nowhere to become one of the GOP's biggest donors during the last election, upping its campaign contributions from just $11,000 during the 2002 cycle to more than $500,000 in 2004.

Thanks to his fund-raising efforts, Rooney himself was among the few individuals named as both a Bush Ranger, having raised at least $200,000 for the president's re-election, and a Super Ranger (among the elite donors who raised another $300,000 for the Republican National Committee).

Rooney is the majority owner of Manhattan Construction Company, the fourth generation of his family to own that company.

Manhattan Construction built the Oklahoma State Capitol, the George Bush Presidential Library, the Cato Institute headquarters, the Prayer Tower and other structures on the Oral Roberts University and is building part of the new visitors' center at the United States Capitol.

The subsidiary won an estimated $100 million in Pentagon contracts in 2003, nearly four times the amount the company won in 2002, according to the Center for Public Integrity.

A Georgetown University and Georgetown Law graduate, Rooney is a member of the Advisory Board of the Panama Canal Authority. Georgetown Univ. is run by the Jesuit Order.

Rooney and his wife have served on the boards of many charitable organizations, and he is a Knight of Malta.

Does this mean that a $500K investment in GWBush, Inc. nets his company $100 million in Pentagon contracts.

Just a coincidence?

I just cannot understand why he wasn't picked for Ambassador to Israel.....

[:I]

MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by dsjeffries

You need help.  End of discussion.

I can't wait to go for a stroll downtown, accidentally catch a baseball game and then wander over to the Living Arts Center in the Mathews Warehouse before getting some delicious chocolates from CFC Chocolatier.



Ok but whats a straight white guy supposed to do after the game besides get a drink with the kids.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by dsjeffries

You need help.  End of discussion.

I can't wait to go for a stroll downtown, accidentally catch a baseball game and then wander over to the Living Arts Center in the Mathews Warehouse before getting some delicious chocolates from CFC Chocolatier.



Ok but whats a straight white guy supposed to do after the game besides get a drink with the kids.



RUN for your car!


USRufnex

#118
quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Quote

RUN for your car!




Boy, that really says it all...... you really could care less about Brady, Blue Dome, etc... and you truly couldn't be more clueless about crime in Tulsa when you make a blanket statement like that.

Now, show us your true face again, and post another joke about the jews and George Kaiser... [:(!]


Renaissance

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by dsjeffries

You need help.  End of discussion.

I can't wait to go for a stroll downtown, accidentally catch a baseball game and then wander over to the Living Arts Center in the Mathews Warehouse before getting some delicious chocolates from CFC Chocolatier.



Ok but whats a straight white guy supposed to do after the game besides get a drink with the kids.



Uh, drink a beer with the wife?