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Started by Double A, July 20, 2008, 03:47:21 AM

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booWorld

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Originally posted by inteller


Bynum's crazy resolution to make the bicycle the official vehicle for the city of tulsa takes the cake.



I was really hoping the City Council would consider the merits of the tricycle as Tulsa's official vehicle.  Trikes are often tragically overlooked and underrated during important legislative discussions.  What a shame...  

I'm angered, but mostly disappointed.  [V] [:(!] [V]

Wrinkle

Tulsa needs it's own Planning Department.

INCOG and TMAPC are non-governmental organizations which are subscription-based and purely voluntary as to subscription.

The 'benefit', as politicians see it, is the City's ablility to mask many of the activities and prevent public access to information, as well as data, maps, etc. by the public at large.

That's why we hear of something one day, and the next there's a 24-board set of renderings, already well past the planning stage.

I once went to INCOG to obtain some map data and felt like I was applying for a job. Before they could even tell me if they had or could get what I wanted, they needed to know what it was I wanted it for, how I intended to use it and generally everything else about my private activities and intentions.

City planning and METRO planning (as done by INCOG and TMAPC) are descrete things and do need coordination, but strictly regional planning is not what Tulsans expect or wish to pay for. Much of those resources are spent helping suburban members, often at the expense of Tulsa, for which they have no particular loyalties.

Tulsa's master plan should be handled by a City of Tulsa Department of Planning, providing input to INCOG and TMAPC, not the other way around.




sgrizzle

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Originally posted by booWorld

quote:
Originally posted by inteller


Bynum's crazy resolution to make the bicycle the official vehicle for the city of tulsa takes the cake.



I was really hoping the City Council would consider the merits of the tricycle as Tulsa's official vehicle.  Trikes are often tragically overlooked and underrated during important legislative discussions.  What a shame...  

I'm angered, but mostly disappointed.  [V] [:(!] [V]



We should be more progressive and choose the segway. or Toyota wing.

Double A

If there is any form of transportation that is discriminated against in Tulsa it's skateboards. It's about time that skateboarders demanded their rights to Tulsa streets and trails. [:D] Let's see if we can get Councilor Bynum to write a resolution.[}:)]
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Ed W

quote:
Originally posted by Wrinkle


City planning and METRO planning (as done by INCOG and TMAPC) are descrete things and do need coordination, but strictly regional planning is not what Tulsans expect or wish to pay for. Much of those resources are spent helping suburban members, often at the expense of Tulsa, for which they have no particular loyalties.

Tulsa's master plan should be handled by a City of Tulsa Department of Planning, providing input to INCOG and TMAPC, not the other way around.







I met with Counselor Bynum and others on Thursday about the proposed changes to Tulsa's bicycling ordinances, the proposed Council resolution about bicycle use, and some other issues.  There seems to be consensus that the city should develop a Comprehensive Bicycle Master Plan as part of the Transportation Advisory Board.  This is all very preliminary, of course, and nothing is firm.  But one idea that showed promise was to develop such a plan as a model to be disseminated by INCOG to their member governments.

This is one very small part of the advisory board's work, and like I said, it's not definite yet.  But Tulsa is the big dog in area government.  I can certainly see Tulsa setting a precedent that others will follow, but somehow I can't see, say Collinsville, setting one that Tulsa would adopt.
Ed

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