Obama: Agent of Change AND Statesman?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

No. Women fear.....especially bikers and black men. []

In a moment of unusual candor, the Rev. Jesse Jackson was quoted to the effect that

"He's walking down a dark, vacant street at night.

He hears heavy footsteps coming up behind him.

He turns around and sees a white man.

And, RELAXES.

REAL honest to G_D truth.

[USRufnex]

Boy, for someone who rants over and over and over, ad infinitum about "the truth" and the oligarchs... you certainly have ZERO RESPECT for someone who worked for years as a community activist on the southside of Chicago...

You are a BIG FAT HAIRY LIAR who does nothing but engage in the most gross propaganda just to see if any of your XXXX sticks....

You live in an alternative universe of your own choosing...


PLEASE, PLEASE stop spamming this site with your unbelievable tales of oligarchy, tax-vampires, and chamberpots.....

worthy of Alice in Wonderland....

"If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?"

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Nik

Just some responses to some of your points:

Positive 3: http://www.latimes.com/news/nationworld/nation/la-na-onthemedia27-2008jul27,0,6802141.story

quote:During the evening news, the majority of statements from reporters and anchors on all three networks are neutral, the center found. And when network news people ventured opinions in recent weeks, 28% of the statements were positive for Obama and 72% negative.

Network reporting also tilted against McCain, but far less dramatically, with 43% of the statements positive and 57% negative, according to the Washington-based media center.

Positive 4: I've listened to several of his speeches and never got this impression.

Negative 1: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/List_of_bills_sponsored_by_Barack_Obama_in_the_United_States_Senate

quote:Obama has been described to have "sponsored 131 bills since Jan 4, 2005," of which 90% (118 bills) remain in committee (Average) and 2% (2 bills) have been enacted into law (Average, relative to peers).[2] These figures do not include bills to which Obama contributed very substantially as cosponsor, such as the Coburn-Obama Federal Funding Accountability and Transparency Act of 2006 or the Lugar-Obama Cooperative Proliferation Detection, Interdiction Assistance, and Conventional Threat Reduction Act of 2006, which were formally sponsored by Senators Coburn and Lugar, respectively.

Negative 2: Seriously? This is a negative? Its a sad day when a person's name is a negative.

You can poll until the cows come home.

The press has been having a Love Fest with candidate Obama from Day 1.

Yeah, forget non-biased, professionally performed research!

Besides, its not like what Obama has been doing for the past couple weeks isn't newsworthy. He is meeting with soldiers, heads-of-state, and hundreds of thousands of European citizens while McCain is giving speeches in front of 20 people in Berlin, Georgia or London, New Hampshire or wherever using the same ole Rovian tactics that got Bush elected. But I digress.

Obama skipped the meeting with WOUNDED soldiers.
The military does not allow CANDIDATES to bring the press to military hospitals.

So, loving the cameras more than he does our country's wounded solders, he just skipped.  Ducked.  Ran away.  Faded.  Retreated.  Vamoosed.

And, free music and free beer will always draw a summer crowd, even to listen to a Schwarzer that they can't vote for.

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Boy, for someone who rants over and over and over, ad infinitum about "the truth" and the oligarchs... you certainly have ZERO RESPECT for someone who worked for years as a community activist on the southside of Chicago...

You are a BIG FAT HAIRY LIAR who does nothing but engage in the most gross propaganda just to see if any of your XXXX sticks....

You live in an alternative universe of your own choosing...


PLEASE, PLEASE stop spamming this site with your unbelievable tales of oligarchy, tax-vampires, and chamberpots.....

worthy of Alice in Wonderland....

"If I had a world of my own, everything would be nonsense. Nothing would be what it is, because everything would be what it isn't. And contrary wise, what is, it wouldn't be. And what it wouldn't be, it would. You see?"

Community Activist?

I've heard that term's in Obama's biographical resume.

What exactly does a Chicago Community Activist do?

Please tell me.

P.S.  Virtually hairless in the summer.

I get a close-cropped Poodle Cut in the summer, to stay cooler hereabouts.  

[USRufnex]

What Makes Obama Run?
Lawyer, teacher, philanthropist, and author Barack Obama doesn't need another career. But he's entering politics to get back to his true passion--community organization.

By Hank De Zutter
December 8, 1995

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/archive/barackobama/

Obama thinks elected officials could do much to overcome the political paralysis of the nation's black communities. He thinks they could lead their communities out of twin culs-de-sac: the unrealistic politics of integrationist assimilation--which helps a few upwardly mobile blacks to "move up, get rich, and move out"--and the equally impractical politics of black rage and black nationalism--which exhorts but does not organize ordinary folks or create realistic agendas for change.

Obama, whose political vision was nurtured by his work in the 80s as an organizer in the far-south-side communities of Roseland and Altgeld Gardens, proposes a third alternative. Not new to Chicago--which is the birthplace of community organizing--but unusual in electoral politics, his proposal calls for organizing ordinary citizens into bottom-up democracies that create their own strategies, programs, and campaigns and that forge alliances with other disaffected Americans. Obama thinks elected officials--even a state senator--can play a critical catalytic role in this rebuilding.

Obama is certainly not the first candidate to talk about the politics of community empowerment. His views, for instance, are not that different from those of the person he would replace, state senator Alice Palmer, who gave Obama her blessing after deciding to run for the congressional seat vacated by Mel Reynolds. She promised Obama that if she lost--which is what happened on November 28--she wouldn't then run against him to keep her senate seat.

What makes Obama different from other progressive politicians is that he doesn't just want to create and support progressive programs; he wants to mobilize the people to create their own. He wants to stand politics on its head, empowering citizens by bringing together the churches and businesses and banks, scornful grandmothers and angry young. Mostly he's running to fill a political and moral vacuum. He says he's tired of seeing the moral fervor of black folks whipped up--at the speaker's rostrum and from the pulpit--and then allowed to dissipate because there's no agenda, no concrete program for change.

[USRufnex]

Quotes from Obama, circa 1995:

"What if a politician were to see his job as that of an organizer," he wondered, "as part teacher and part advocate, one who does not sell voters short but who educates them about the real choices before them? As an elected public official, for instance, I could bring church and community leaders together easier than I could as a community organizer or lawyer. We would come together to form concrete economic development strategies, take advantage of existing laws and structures, and create bridges and bonds within all sectors of the community. We must form grass-root structures that would hold me and other elected officials more accountable for their actions.

"The right wing, the Christian right, has done a good job of building these organizations of accountability, much better than the left or progressive forces have. But it's always easier to organize around intolerance, narrow-mindedness, and false nostalgia. And they also have hijacked the higher moral ground with this language of family values and moral responsibility.

"Now we have to take this same language--these same values that are encouraged within our families--of looking out for one another, of sharing, of sacrificing for each other--and apply them to a larger society. Let's talk about creating a society, not just individual families, based on these values. Right now we have a society that talks about the irresponsibility of teens getting pregnant, not the irresponsibility of a society that fails to educate them to aspire for more."

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

What Makes Obama Run?
Lawyer, teacher, philanthropist, and author Barack Obama doesn't need another career. But he's entering politics to get back to his true passion--community organization.

By Hank De Zutter
December 8, 1995

http://www.chicagoreader.com/features/stories/archive/barackobama/

Obama thinks elected officials could do much to overcome the political paralysis of the nation's black communities. He thinks they could lead their communities out of twin culs-de-sac: the unrealistic politics of integrationist assimilation--which helps a few upwardly mobile blacks to "move up, get rich, and move out"--and the equally impractical politics of black rage and black nationalism--which exhorts but does not organize ordinary folks or create realistic agendas for change.

Obama, whose political vision was nurtured by his work in the 80s as an organizer in the far-south-side communities of Roseland and Altgeld Gardens, proposes a third alternative. Not new to Chicago--which is the birthplace of community organizing--but unusual in electoral politics, his proposal calls for organizing ordinary citizens into bottom-up democracies that create their own strategies, programs, and campaigns and that forge alliances with other disaffected Americans. Obama thinks elected officials--even a state senator--can play a critical catalytic role in this rebuilding.

Obama is certainly not the first candidate to talk about the politics of community empowerment. His views, for instance, are not that different from those of the person he would replace, state senator Alice Palmer, who gave Obama her blessing after deciding to run for the congressional seat vacated by Mel Reynolds. She promised Obama that if she lost--which is what happened on November 28--she wouldn't then run against him to keep her senate seat.

What makes Obama different from other progressive politicians is that he doesn't just want to create and support progressive programs; he wants to mobilize the people to create their own. He wants to stand politics on its head, empowering citizens by bringing together the churches and businesses and banks, scornful grandmothers and angry young. Mostly he's running to fill a political and moral vacuum. He says he's tired of seeing the moral fervor of black folks whipped up--at the speaker's rostrum and from the pulpit--and then allowed to dissipate because there's no agenda, no concrete program for change.

Former Congressman Mel Reynolds is quite the role model to cite in his biography.

Here's what Wikipedia has to say about him:

"In August 1994, he was indicted for sexual assault and criminal sexual abuse for engaging in a sexual relationship with a 16-year-old campaign volunteer that began during the 1992 campaign. Despite the charges, he continued his campaign and was re-elected that November; he had no opposition.

Reynolds initially denied the charges, which he claimed were racially motivated. On August 22, 1995 he was convicted on 12 counts of sexual assault, obstruction of justice and solicitation of child pornography. He resigned his seat on October 1 of that year.

Reynolds was sentenced to five years in prison and expected to be released in 1998. However, in April 1997 he was convicted on 15 unrelated counts of bank fraud and lying to SEC investigators.

These charges resulted in an additional sentence of 78 months in federal prison. Reynolds served all of his first sentence, and served 42 months in prison for the later charges.

At that point, President Bill Clinton commuted the sentence for bank fraud. However, Reynolds had never applied for presidential clemency, which is the first step to be considered for a presidential pardon. As a result, Reynolds was released from prison and served the remaining time in a halfway house."

Notice that President Wm. Clinton, a man who deeply understood the foundation of ZIPPER CONTROL problems, commuted Mr. Reynolds sentence.

It kind of sounds like a Community Activist basically registers voters, and helps get out their vote during elections, uses them in political campaigns, offering to arrange transportation on election day to the polls, and helping them fill out the ballot choices of the Chicago Political Machine, especially if they don't read/write English well.

Ebonics ballots available, too?

These underachiever's limitations are due to  solely to attendance at failing inner-city government schools, high drop out rates, 50% of their children born to unwed mothers, high crime rates, high drug usage, and other social ills.

All due to Whitey, according to Rev. Jeremiah Wright, Mr. Obama's "spiritual mentor".

Wright?  Right.




[:O]

[USRufnex]

More cherry pickin' from the bear....



Obama is MORE OF A TRUE AMERICAN than you will ever be, FB...

I LIVED in Chicago... know about Mel Reynolds, Carol Mosely-Braun, Dan Rostenkowski, St. Sabina's catholic church on the southside...

You continue to spam propaganda on this forum...

More from OBAMA circa 1995:

"Any African-Americans who are only talking about racism as a barrier to our success are seriously misled if they don't also come to grips with the larger economic forces that are creating economic insecurity for all workers--whites, Latinos, and Asians. We must deal with the forces that are depressing wages, lopping off people's benefits right and left, and creating an earnings gap between CEOs and the lowest-paid worker that has risen in the last 20 years from a ratio of 10 to 1 to one of better than 100 to 1.

"This doesn't suggest that the need to look inward emphasized by the march isn't important, and that these African-American tribal affinities aren't legitimate. These are mean, cruel times, exemplified by a 'lock 'em up, take no prisoners' mentality that dominates the Republican-led Congress. Historically, African-Americans have turned inward and towards black nationalism whenever they have a sense, as we do now, that the mainstream has rebuffed us, and that white Americans couldn't care less about the profound problems African-Americans are facing."

"But cursing out white folks is not going to get the job done. Anti-Semitic and anti-Asian statements are not going to lift us up. We've got some hard nuts-and-bolts organizing and planning to do. We've got communities to build."

[USRufnex]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

The Washington Post?  

I've sooner believe an article in Ebony concerning Obama.

The Post is in the bag for Obama.

Yee-hawwwww!!! The Tulsa Beacon rocks, dude!!!  [}:)]

/sarcasm.