Progressive Democrat Manley, against Sullivan

[two lumps of shugh]

Speaking of canvassing, any of you out there who are lucky enough to get a knock on the door and a personal visit from campaign volunteers or the candidate himself, asking you to vote on Tuesday, should feel real lucky, given the heat.

Volunteers are knocking themselves out as we speak to get the Manley ticket into people's hands, today, despite the high temperatures.

Tuesday is not just another SSDD.  We've a chance to elect someone decent, to represent Tulsans accurately, in U.S. Congress.

No, Manley is not a professional politician.  But he's running on the issues, with an old-fashioned platform.  Take it or leave it.

Manley has your interests at heart.

[GG]

Progressive Democrat huh?   Code for liberal nut job.   [8D]

[Double A]

I voted for Manley. Big surprise.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by unreliablesource

Progressive Democrat huh?   Code for liberal nut job.   [8D]

I love it when these right-wing koolaid drinkers come out with Progressive Democrat=liberal nut job/kook/whatever.

Go back and listen to Rush.

[GG]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by unreliablesource

Progressive Democrat huh?   Code for liberal nut job.   [8D]

I love it when these right-wing koolaid drinkers come out with Progressive Democrat=liberal nut job/kook/whatever.

Go back and listen to Rush.

Uh wrong....... I am a registered Republican, however, I voted for Doug Dodd the last 2 elections instead of Sullivan.  

Will most likely vote for Oliver if she is the Democrat nominee.  If not I will just call it a wash and sit out this one.  

I just call them as I see them.   []

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by unreliablesource

Progressive Democrat huh?   Code for liberal nut job.   [8D]

I love it when these right-wing koolaid drinkers come out with Progressive Democrat=liberal nut job/kook/whatever.

Go back and listen to Rush.

If the tag fits....

Perusing Manley's web site, he is a liberal nutjob.

I don't listen to Rush, just my conscience.

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[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71
...he is a liberal nutjob.

Hey! What's wrong with that?

[two lumps of shugh]

Not so nutty, according to Tulsans themselves

Peace candidate wins 44% in OK1

Manley, the anti-war pro-peace candidate, did very respectably in yesterday's election, winning 44% of the vote.

Plus, we had the satisfaction --on a budget of only $2000, all of it clean money devoid of PACs corporations or interest groups-- of driving the conservative democrat (running on god-only-knows what policy positions) into debt to the tune of $37,000. (Best estimate, by the Manley campaign manager about the Oliver budget. The Oliver budget went into the RED, somewhat irresponsibly.)

As expected by his campaigners, the pro-impeachment candidate succeeded in firing up the base of the party to come out and vote for him.

For Manley to have come within spitting distance of the other contender bodes well for future candidates running on a similar platform of peace, universal healthcare, and anti-corporatism.

The limited budget and complete avoidance of mass media radio/TV spots by the Manley campaign also suggests that candidates of lesser means can still be competitive, and that at minimum, a grassroots & netroots campaign can drive the other candidate into debt, by running a candidate who actually reflects the values of the party's electorate, in populist fashion, running as a progressive candidate on policy planks that actually matter to the average citizen.

Oliver is welcome to borrow as many planks as she wants from Manley's platform, in order to reflect the 44% of the Oklahoma 1st District Democrats who agree with Manley's policy positions. If this race succeeds in persuading the nominee to move to the Left in her policy positions, it will have been worth the effort.

BTW, liberals takes us to war unnecessarily the same way that neo-cons do.  The difference between a liberal and a progressive is that the progressive doesn't think much of military muscle (a poor excuse for good policy).

[two lumps of shugh]

Not so nutty, according to Tulsans themselves

Peace candidate wins 44% in OK1

Manley, the anti-war pro-peace candidate, did very respectably in yesterday's election, winning 44% of the vote.

Plus, we had the satisfaction --on a budget of only $2000, all of it clean money devoid of PACs corporations or interest groups-- of driving the conservative democrat (running on god-only-knows what policy positions) into debt to the tune of $37,000. (Best estimate, by the Manley campaign manager about the Oliver budget. The Oliver budget went into the RED, somewhat irresponsibly.)

As expected by his campaigners, the pro-impeachment candidate succeeded in firing up the base of the party to come out and vote for him.

For Manley to have come within spitting distance of the other contender bodes well for future candidates running on a similar platform of peace, universal healthcare, and anti-corporatism.

The limited budget and complete avoidance of mass media radio/TV spots by the Manley campaign also suggests that candidates of lesser means can still be competitive, and that at minimum, a grassroots & netroots campaign can drive the other candidate into debt, by running a candidate who actually reflects the values of the party's electorate, in populist fashion, running as a progressive candidate on policy planks that actually matter to the average citizen.

Oliver is welcome to borrow as many planks as she wants from Manley's platform, in order to reflect the 44% of the Oklahoma 1st District Democrats who agree with Manley's policy positions. If this race succeeds in persuading the nominee to move to the Left in her policy positions, it will have been worth the effort.

BTW, liberals takes us to war unnecessarily the same way that neo-cons do.  The difference between a liberal and a progressive is that the progressive doesn't think much of military muscle (a poor replacement for good policy).

[Conan71]

Since no one appears to have heard of Manley or Oliver until two weeks ago, I'd guess 44% could represent blissful ignorance or voters who would vote for a male candidate, not knowing anything else about who was running.  I'd never heard of either one until they were mentioned here and only saw their signs pop up over the last week.

The Democrat party seems incredibly disorganized in running Sullivan out of office.  They've been far more proactive in trying to unseat Inhofe.

[Hometown]

I cast my vote for Oliver without a lot of enthusiasm.  She looks like she has the best shot at defeating Sullivan.  And she reminds me of Kathy Taylor.  I'm also not at all crazy about Taylor but say what you will, Taylor does know how to win an election.  Sullivan is the devil himself (or at least wants to be) so Ms. Oliver would certainly be an improvement and she looks to have the connections to win.

I have noticed this past year that I am going to have trouble supporting candidates younger than the Baby Boom.  I'll make an exception for Obama and Oliver.  I'm an ageist.  I believe older people are superior to younger people and experience trumps inexperience.  Baby Boomers are a long ways away from giving up the ghost.

What we are all hoping for this year is that the revulsion with Bush and the Republican party will drive people like Sullivan from office.

Anyway, after three years of observation I've decided that there is only one really first rate Democrat in Oklahoma.  Dan Boren.  That man can go places.

Oklahoma Republicans are the absolute bottom of the barrel and deserve to lose every office.  They are wildly corrupt hayseeds in cheap suits bragging about their Christianity while they steal from working people.  

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown

I cast my vote for Oliver without a lot of enthusiasm.  She looks like she has the best shot at defeating Sullivan.  And she reminds me of Kathy Taylor.  I'm also not at all crazy about Taylor but say what you will, Taylor does know how to win an election.  Sullivan is the devil himself (or at least wants to be) so Ms. Oliver would certainly be an improvement and she looks to have the connections to win.

I have noticed this past year that I am going to have trouble supporting candidates younger than the Baby Boom.  I'll make an exception for Obama and Oliver.  I'm an ageist.  I believe older people are superior to younger people and experience trumps inexperience.  Baby Boomers are a long ways away from giving up the ghost.

What we are all hoping for this year is that the revulsion with Bush and the Republican party will drive people like Sullivan from office.

Anyway, after three years of observation I've decided that there is only one really first rate Democrat in Oklahoma.  Dan Boren.  That man can go places.

Oklahoma Republicans are the absolute bottom of the barrel and deserve to lose every office.  They are wildly corrupt hayseeds in cheap suits bragging about their Christianity while they steal from working people.  

I'd like to see you back up your last paragraph with facts and figures.  Coburn has been trying to keep gov't from stealing from us.

If you take an honest look at Kathy Taylor, she's been an effective mayor.  I'm not saying I've agreed with everything she's done nor the way she's gone about it, but if she puts her mind to something, it most always happens.  She's a hard worker and is always prepared when she shows up for a meeting.

I've been a slow convert to her ways, but I gotta say she's head and shoulders better than Billy Bumble****.

[Hometown]

Taylor caves on the big stuff and goes for the easy kill.  She also lacks character.

Her one positive for me was the day she flew up to Washington and marched into FEMA to ask for money for Tulsa.  

In my next life when I have time to spare I'll give you all the detail you want.  Meanwhile I'll treat this like a casual conversation, like I always have.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Hometown



In my next life when I have time to spare I'll give you all the detail you want.  Meanwhile I'll treat this like a casual conversation, like I always have.

Your next life (if need there is one) doesn't do anyone any good NOW.

So spill.

[Hometown]

Sure, I'll show up with my accountant and reams of research once every else does.  You first Mr. 66.