New street package at $451 million

[Jitter Free]

I attended the combined streets meeting for districts 2 and 8 and out of 100+ people I only think one person stood up and said they were in favor of Martinson's plan.  My guess is that around 20 people spoke and 19 of them said that Martinson's plan was too big, too long and didn't include enough money for widening.  A number of them also said they were against it on principal because there are a number of non-street related items (fixing the convention center...) in Martinson's plan.

I would be curious how the other meetings went.  Based on the feedback at the meeting I don't see how either councilor Christian or Westcott could support the $2 billion plan.  

[cks511]

Oh they support the 12yr/2b alright and I hope they vote for it. The whirled says so. Folks in my 'hood just laugh.  Like there's no 'other' crisis at the moment. I'll be voting no.

http://www.tulsaworld.com/news/article.aspx?articleID=20080808_16_A1_hSixco82630

[Wrinkle]

Guess they're actually trying to kill this by offering only the 12-year deal on the ballot.

I'd vote against it in any case, but especially if it the only option provided.

Really, appears they are trying to kill it. So, the question is what motivates this?

[Jitter Free]

Based on the meeting I attended I don't know why a majority of the councilors are supporting the $2 billion plan.

I really don't think KT is against the $2 billion plan.  I think it is politics as usual.  If it passes she'll be the mayor that passed a comprehensive street plan.  If it fails she'll be the mayor who listened to the people and proposed a cheaper alternative.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Guess they're actually trying to kill this by offering only the 12-year deal on the ballot.

I'd vote against it in any case, but especially if it the only option provided.

Really, appears they are trying to kill it. So, the question is what motivates this?

This current council is either the most deft or just plain arrogant we've had.

$2 bln will never make it past the voters.  I think the compromise plan offered taxpayers the best value for the money and did not create a long-term committment which would hinder other fund-raising efforts if there was some other comprehensive development/repair plan the city or county figured out we needed.

[Renaissance]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by Wrinkle

Guess they're actually trying to kill this by offering only the 12-year deal on the ballot.

I'd vote against it in any case, but especially if it the only option provided.

Really, appears they are trying to kill it. So, the question is what motivates this?

This current council is either the most deft or just plain arrogant we've had.

$2 bln will never make it past the voters.  I think the compromise plan offered taxpayers the best value for the money and did not create a long-term committment which would hinder other fund-raising efforts if there was some other comprehensive development/repair plan the city or county figured out we needed.

You mean daft, right?  Because they must be daft to think the $2b plan will fly after the smaller plans have been floated as potential alternatives.