Homeless Hi-Rise at Admiral and Yale

[MDepr2007]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy



Whatever. I read with interest Pearson's opinion page piece in the World this morning. This strong movement to divide the city up on every issue simply serves to make sure we do nothing rather than offend anyone.

And once again a one-sided blame to go with it.

Just because the "blamed side" can't afford the millions to do what they would like in Tulsa. They should just be quiet and let the "non-blamed" do whatever they want because they have the millions. Even if it raises the cost of the "blamed" to live in Tulsa or changes the quality of living of the "blamed" .

Maybe JP can qualify next year for the Tulsa Hall of Fame with all her kiss azz....

[FOTD]

Janet's piece should have been page 1....

It is really not hard to "pin down what is fueling the negativity."

Yes, "tough times and mistrust of power and authority", "the switch to council government", the small contrarians who garner a "disproportionate share of influence" combined to produce this climate! No maybe about it.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:Originally posted by waterboy



Whatever. I read with interest Pearson's opinion page piece in the World this morning. This strong movement to divide the city up on every issue simply serves to make sure we do nothing rather than offend anyone.

And once again a one-sided blame to go with it.

Just because the "blamed side" can't afford the millions to do what they would like in Tulsa. They should just be quiet and let the "non-blamed" do whatever they want because they have the millions. Even if it raises the cost of the "blamed" to live in Tulsa or changes the quality of living of the "blamed" .

Maybe JP can qualify next year for the Tulsa Hall of Fame with all her kiss azz....

None of your post makes sense to me. Guess I read something different into her piece. She was commenting on our propensity to be so bound up in our own fractional interests as to ignore the common interest. I saw nothing about blame except for those that refuse to yield or compromise at all, rich, poor, educated or not.

[Double A]

quote:Originally posted by Rico

Well Aa you have to "know when to hold them... and know when to fold them."

I'll take my chances..

White City is quite some distance from this development is it not??

That would have to be one industrious homeless fellow to make that stroll.
The liquor store is the other direction.

[}:)]

BTW, it's not just White City, Maxwell Park and Sequoyah are affected and are opposed to this as well. White city is about a block from this.

[FOTD]

THE FEAR!!!!!![}:)]

"Their walls are built of cannon balls, their moto is "don't tread on me" (Garcia/Hunter)

FOTD lives close to a hospital. The MIRA virus is within a distance that could destroy my neighborhood. Be leary of health clinics.

It could be worse. To think Planned Parenthood could locate near me. Baby killers!

And, there are homes with co-oped occupants in recovery, part of "the program" near me. Oh the nights this devil lays awake trembling.

But those nearby apartments with gunslingers are no issue......

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Double A

quote:Originally posted by Rico

Well Aa you have to "know when to hold them... and know when to fold them."

I'll take my chances..

White City is quite some distance from this development is it not??

That would have to be one industrious homeless fellow to make that stroll.
The liquor store is the other direction.

[}:)]

BTW, it's not just White City, Maxwell Park and Sequoyah are affected and are opposed to this as well. White city is about a block from this.

White City never started before 4th street before. Expanding is it? Including streets, places, boulevards and the 1/4 mile wide bridge over I-244 its more like a half mile at least. But why stop there? Squiggle is probably against it. Anyone on Archer, Independence, Haskell. Truthfully you could round up any part of the city that has no such facilities currently and fold them into the "movement".

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

THE FEAR!!!!!![}:)]

"Their walls are built of cannon balls, their moto is "don't tread on me" (Garcia/Hunter)

FOTD lives close to a hospital. The MIRA virus is within a distance that could destroy my neighborhood. Be leary of health clinics.

It could be worse. To think Planned Parenthood could locate near me. Baby killers!

And, there are homes with co-oped occupants in recovery, part of "the program" near me. Oh the nights this devil lays awake trembling.

But those nearby apartments with gunslingers are no issue......

Lucky guy. I live within a qtr. mile of a hillbilly bar with obnoxious motorcycles blasting off all the time. Then on Saturday nights the gastro elitists descend on us looking for good Italian and Nouveau cuisine. Not to mention those dang firetrucks with their sirens.

And don't get me started about living close to a "midtown elitist" grade school. Then we have those unsavory teenagers walking to the bus stop. I'm tellin' ya'. WE GOTTA STOP THIS STUFF NOW!! ARE YOU WITH ME FELLOW NIMBY'S? WE GOTTA' TAKE OUR NEIGHBORHOODS BACK![]

[RecycleMichael]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy
White City never started before 4th street before.

No. The boundaries are the expressway to 11th from Yale to the railroad tracks.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

quote:Originally posted by waterboy
White City never started before 4th street before.

No. The boundaries are the expressway to 11th from Yale to the railroad tracks.

Are those association boundaries? When I sold real estate over there it didn't start till south of 4th street which was the main artery to Memorial from Harvard. The White City Dairy certainly didn't go that far north and you can see a distinct difference in housing style north of 4th and Hudson. If it went north of there I guess they ran the expressway through it. Dang oligarchists.

I could be wrong. Maybe we just said that to sell homes. Doesn't matter much. We call everything Maple Ridge over here too even though very little really is. They can call themselves whatever they want and fight for truth, justice, and the American way under whatever Nimby battle flag is convenient. Perhaps they could fight for gating themselves in like out south. NO FREEDOM WITHOUT WALLS!

I visited the website. I'll tell you who owns Tulsa. Its developers, builders, insurance companies, banks, real estate companies and lawyers. Stop sending your kids into these lucrative careers, move to the country, run naked with a shotgun and be free. The city needs to move on.

[carltonplace]

quote:Originally posted by Flamingo

I've read that there are more shelters in other neighborhoods around town.  Does anyone know where they are or how to find out?  I think it would be interesting to drive by and have a look and to see what part of town they're located in.  A neighborhood called Forest Orchard, I believe it's called, has one and reports that they're having no problems at all.  Thanks.

Resonance is located at 16th and Elwood. While its not a "homeless shelter" it is a place where women that are recovering or have been released from recent incarceration are assisted back into the community. Resonance is a welcome neighbor in our area.

I think the term "homless shelter" does not apply in relation to either the YMCA or BTBL since the occupants do pay room and board.

[sgrizzle]

Just thought I'd sneak some facts in:

This would be the 3rd or 4th such facility in the city of Tulsa and will be the nicest by far.

Homeless will not be living here, the residents will be working and paying rent.

This is meant for people who either need someone making sure they don't mess up their meds, having trouble integrating due to problems like autism, those kinds of things. This is just an assisted living center for people with various mental conditions. Without this level of assistance, they would not be able to maintain a productive life or job and likely would eventually end up homeless.

[carltonplace]

Thanks grizz. I noticed Mr Bates avoided these facts in his UTW opinion in favor of inserting latin and emotion.

[sgrizzle]

The fact is, almost no-one wants this near them, but no-one wants to pay bills, or go to work either. These are people that need this service and it's not just sticking homeless in a shack together, it is trying to get these people the help they need so they aren't homeless. As was pointed out by a sage purveyor of pies, if you put ANYTHING else in the place of the word "homeless" or "mentally ill" you would be billed as racist, sexist, etc. Imagine these headlines:

*Black Hi-Rise to be built near White City.

*Gay Condominiums to be built at straight intersection of Admiral and Yale.

*Muslim Motel makes waves in midtown.

[Gold]

quote:Originally posted by carltonplace

Thanks grizz. I noticed Mr Bates avoided these facts in his UTW opinion in favor of inserting latin and emotion.

[]

Well stated.  Who needs facts when you have opinion?  As Colbert says, facts may change, but his opinion doesn't.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by carltonplace

Thanks grizz. I noticed Mr Bates avoided these facts in his UTW opinion in favor of inserting latin and emotion.

Hopefully that should surpise no-one.