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Homeless Hi-Rise at Admiral and Yale

Started by RecycleMichael, August 07, 2008, 08:15:38 PM

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RecycleMichael

#286
August 20, 2008, 09:02:59 AM
How did this thread go from housing for the poor to jetsetting to the coast for the rich?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

#287
August 20, 2008, 09:04:10 AM
Interesting, this is what I get when I checked UAL's web site with their default date:

http://travel.united.com/ube/core/us/compactSearch.do?waitingPageFlag=true

Checking a departure of tomorrow and return of Friday, it finally came up:

http://travel.united.com/ube/shopInput.do?waitingPageFlag=true

non-stop both ways.

Harumph.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

sgrizzle

#288
August 20, 2008, 09:29:38 AM
Well the title is "Homeless Hi-Rise" and neither of those are accurate either...

RecycleMichael

#289
August 20, 2008, 09:36:53 AM
A high rise is 75 feet to 491 feet in height and this building looks to be only about 65 to 70.

Housing would stop them from being homeless.

It is also not at Admiral and Yale because that would be in the middle of an intersection.

Technically, you are correct, sir.
Power is nothing till you use it.

Conan71

#290
August 20, 2008, 09:54:10 AM
quote:
Originally posted by sgrizzle

Well the title is "Homeless Hi-Rise" and neither of those are accurate either...


Whadya think Grizz?  Time for the horse?


"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

sgrizzle

#291
August 20, 2008, 10:52:27 AM Last Edit: August 20, 2008, 10:52:44 AM by sgrizzle
That never gets old.

I mean really, reading back on this thread is like reading this:

MDepr2007

#292
August 20, 2008, 11:00:40 AM
Do we come to the conclusion then that Councilor Eagleton was incorrect when he yelled at the citizens about turning their back on the homeless.
We actually are getting a half-way house (apartment complex) for the mentally challenged. excluding RM of course.
Each APARTMENT will have it's own bathroom and kitchen because it would need different zoning if they provided food for the residents?
I'm sure there are many more twist than this and maybe I'm confussed too...

Ttowndad

#293
August 20, 2008, 11:03:20 AM
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

How did this thread go from housing for the poor to jetsetting to the coast for the rich?
 was just wondering the same???

waterboy

#294
August 20, 2008, 11:29:52 AM
quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

Do we come to the conclusion then that Councilor Eagleton was incorrect when he yelled at the citizens about turning their back on the homeless.
We actually are getting a half-way house (apartment complex) for the mentally challenged. excluding RM of course.
Each APARTMENT will have it's own bathroom and kitchen because it would need different zoning if they provided food for the residents?
I'm sure there are many more twist than this and maybe I'm confussed too...


No, that is not the conclusion or the consensus. Yes, you are confused.

Conan, I think the horse likes it. He's faking it because he's into S/M. Wears leathers too.[;)]

MDepr2007

#295
August 20, 2008, 12:12:49 PM
quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

Do we come to the conclusion then that Councilor Eagleton was incorrect when he yelled at the citizens about turning their back on the homeless.
We actually are getting a half-way house (apartment complex) for the mentally challenged. excluding RM of course.
Each APARTMENT will have it's own bathroom and kitchen because it would need different zoning if they provided food for the residents?
I'm sure there are many more twist than this and maybe I'm confussed too...


No, that is not the conclusion or the consensus. Yes, you are confused.

Conan, I think the horse likes it. He's faking it because he's into S/M. Wears leathers too.[;)]


Then what was Eagleton eluding to?
This apartment is not going to take any current homeless person off the street in Tulsa. In fact it will not be big enough to take care of everyone currently staying at the Y. In fact it will probably not even accept some of the current residence , as they will not qualify for this new "apartment" . What does that say?

Conan71

#296
August 20, 2008, 12:24:06 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

Do we come to the conclusion then that Councilor Eagleton was incorrect when he yelled at the citizens about turning their back on the homeless.
We actually are getting a half-way house (apartment complex) for the mentally challenged. excluding RM of course.
Each APARTMENT will have it's own bathroom and kitchen because it would need different zoning if they provided food for the residents?
I'm sure there are many more twist than this and maybe I'm confussed too...


No, that is not the conclusion or the consensus. Yes, you are confused.

Conan, I think the horse likes it. He's faking it because he's into S/M. Wears leathers too.[;)]


Then what was Eagleton eluding to?
This apartment is not going to take any current homeless person off the street in Tulsa. In fact it will not be big enough to take care of everyone currently staying at the Y. In fact it will probably not even accept some of the current residence , as they will not qualify for this new "apartment" . What does that say?


You seem to have a handle on it, connect the dots, as they say.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

waterboy

#297
August 20, 2008, 12:53:25 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007

Do we come to the conclusion then that Councilor Eagleton was incorrect when he yelled at the citizens about turning their back on the homeless.
We actually are getting a half-way house (apartment complex) for the mentally challenged. excluding RM of course.
Each APARTMENT will have it's own bathroom and kitchen because it would need different zoning if they provided food for the residents?
I'm sure there are many more twist than this and maybe I'm confussed too...


No, that is not the conclusion or the consensus. Yes, you are confused.

Conan, I think the horse likes it. He's faking it because he's into S/M. Wears leathers too.[;)]


Then what was Eagleton eluding to?
This apartment is not going to take any current homeless person off the street in Tulsa. In fact it will not be big enough to take care of everyone currently staying at the Y. In fact it will probably not even accept some of the current residence , as they will not qualify for this new "apartment" . What does that say?


Ask Eagleton. I don't presume to know what's in his mind or what he said.

I have a problem with a neighborhood that is so fiercely adamant against alleged incursions on their edges by this group but didn't bother to read legal notices or keep up with their own councilor's activities. (YOU ELECTED HIM! WE WANTED BARNES!) Where was your homeowners association? Planning block parties?

There was no zoning change required and these folks followed all the applicable laws for notice that have been in place for decades. They didn't need council approval except for the grant involved. They got no special treatment by government. Yet you whine like you've been abused. You remind me of a past counselor, Anita Falling I believe, that couldn't read a city budget even though she was college educated. She needed special treatment because it was all just too complicated. Other councillors had been figuring them out for years.

The issues of whether or not the Y should be used or torn down, whether its residents are homeless, mental, recovering or whatever is not really your business. These are decisions that the organization answers for themselves and their donors. Separate issues. What they did was legal and common. Just because you didn't know about it is no defense. But because you folks threaten, yell, whine and get TV time people have to pass resolutions and cover their butts.

Life is tough. Buck up and defend your neighborhood by keeping informed and voting for people who will address your interests.

rhymnrzn

#298
August 20, 2008, 01:12:54 PM
I am minded of what Apostle Paul once said

1Corinthians 11:22
quote:
What? have ye not houses to eat and to drink in? or despise ye the church of God, and shame them that have not? What shall I say to you? shall I praise you in this? I praise you not.


and what the prophet once said

Isaiah 5:7
quote:
....and he looked for judgment, but behold oppression; for righteousness, but behold a cry. (v.8)  Woe unto them that join house to house, that lay field to field, till there be no place, that they may be placed alone in the midst of the earth!



RecycleMichael

#299
August 20, 2008, 01:15:16 PM
quote:
Originally posted by MDepr2007
... for the mentally challenged. excluding RM of course.


You have no clue to how true that statement is...
Power is nothing till you use it.
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