If I Hear "Historic" One More Time...

[Conan71]

...at the DNC, I think my head will explode.  

Is there some reason every newscaster and pundit covering this event doesn't think we all get this already?

Anyone else still think with Obama making a surprise appearance last night that he's not trading, to an extent, on his race?  Pretty good symbolism for black Americans.

"The sweep of history could be overwhelming in itself: The previous evening Obama became the first black man to be a major political party's presidential candidate, his acceptance of the Democratic nomination coming on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp

[guido911]

Sorry to disappoint you Conan but you are going to continue hearing "historic" throughout the entire campaign. That's all Obama's candidacy is about. Truth be told, if the issue was foreign policy/national security, the dems would have nominated Clinton or Biden. If it was health care, it would have been Clinton. If it was the economy, it would have been Edwards. And if it the dems were pushing for the moronic nutjob vote, it would have been Kucinich. Obama is neither a master or even an apprentice in any as to any of these issues IMHO.

[guido911]

Countdown to someone calling me or Conan racists, 10...9...8...

[sgrizzle]

It's the same companies who couldn't cover a single women's beach volleyball game without talking about who the U.S. Team (Kerri Ann Walsh and Misty May-Treanor) were married too. They didn't mention it for any male athletes, just these two and about also talk about how they really want to make babies so they may quite volleyball. I think the coverage of that event was about 12 steps back for gender equality.

[USRufnex]

Conan and Guido accuse Obama of "trading on his race" in 3 - 2 - 1.......

Oh wait.  [}:)]

He gives a great speech... He was RIGHT on the Iraq War.... he is right on economics... he has more experience as a legislator than Hillary Clinton... and REAL honest-to-goodness non-koolaid drinking Republicans in Illinois have had a healthy respect for him over the years... and yes, Barack Obama was the FIRST African-American to serve as President of the Harvard Law Review...  http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/

It IS historic.  It would also be historic if Colin Powell or Condi Rice or.... JC Watts... had been accepting the nomination for prez on the Republican side.  

But, then again, whenever the media actually TELLS THE TRUTH in this country and its flattering to a democrat, they're accused of being "liberal."

Cry me a river.  []

[we vs us]

I'm impressed that this convention has managed the media expectations so well.  Granted things started at a slow burn with Michelle's speech, but from a narrative perspective, they've really played the Clinton rift-and-subsequent-unification perfectly.  

I tell ya, during the roll call yesterday, I got kinda teary.  It was exceptional drama -- to have Hillary close off her own roll call vote and ask to nominate Obama by acclamation.  But it wasn't cheesy, manipulative drama, it was the good kind:  cathartic, purposeful, and well-crafted.

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71



Anyone else still think with Obama making a surprise appearance last night that he's not trading, to an extent, on his race?  Pretty good symbolism for black Americans.

"The sweep of history could be overwhelming in itself: The previous evening Obama became the first black man to be a major political party's presidential candidate, his acceptance of the Democratic nomination coming on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech."

Whaaaa???

Explain "trading on his race." I don't follow. I don't see any trading going on at all.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

...at the DNC, I think my head will explode.  

Is there some reason every newscaster and pundit covering this event doesn't think we all get this already?

Anyone else still think with Obama making a surprise appearance last night that he's not trading, to an extent, on his race?  Pretty good symbolism for black Americans.

"The sweep of history could be overwhelming in itself: The previous evening Obama became the first black man to be a major political party's presidential candidate, his acceptance of the Democratic nomination coming on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech."

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080828/ap_on_el_pr/cvn_convention_rdp

If you just vote for Barack Hussein Obama, then all you and your ancestors past racist, bigoted sins will be forgiven.

White Guilt will be expunged.

Promise.

He's our Redeemer!

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Conan71



Anyone else still think with Obama making a surprise appearance last night that he's not trading, to an extent, on his race?  Pretty good symbolism for black Americans.

"The sweep of history could be overwhelming in itself: The previous evening Obama became the first black man to be a major political party's presidential candidate, his acceptance of the Democratic nomination coming on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech."

Whaaaa???

Explain "trading on his race." I don't follow. I don't see any trading going on at all.

I and others who have been critical of Obama on here have been "reminded" time and again that Obama has never used his race to his advantage in the election or that race has not been an issue with him, nor that it has anything with him ascending to the spot he's got in the Democrat Party today.  The symbolism of making a surprise "unscripted" appearance on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King's most noted speech was anything but coincidence.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

Conan and Guido accuse Obama of "trading on his race" in 3 - 2 - 1.......

Oh wait.  [}:)]

He gives a great speech... He was RIGHT on the Iraq War.... he is right on economics... he has more experience as a legislator than Hillary Clinton... and REAL honest-to-goodness non-koolaid drinking Republicans in Illinois have had a healthy respect for him over the years... and yes, Barack Obama was the FIRST African-American to serve as President of the Harvard Law Review...  http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/

It IS historic.  It would also be historic if Colin Powell or Condi Rice or.... JC Watts... had been accepting the nomination for prez on the Republican side.  

But, then again, whenever the media actually TELLS THE TRUTH in this country and its flattering to a democrat, they're accused of being "liberal."

Cry me a river.  []

My head will explode next week if Romney is the VP pick and they keep talking about it being historical for a Mormon to share a ticket.

Instead of "Gritz & Fritz" it will be "Mick & The Mormon".

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

Conan and Guido accuse Obama of "trading on his race" in 3 - 2 - 1.......

Oh wait.  [}:)]

He gives a great speech... He was RIGHT on the Iraq War.... he is right on economics... he has more experience as a legislator than Hillary Clinton... and REAL honest-to-goodness non-koolaid drinking Republicans in Illinois have had a healthy respect for him over the years... and yes, Barack Obama was the FIRST African-American to serve as President of the Harvard Law Review...  http://www.boston.com/news/local/articles/2007/01/28/at_harvard_law_a_unifying_voice/

It IS historic.  It would also be historic if Colin Powell or Condi Rice or.... JC Watts... had been accepting the nomination for prez on the Republican side.  

But, then again, whenever the media actually TELLS THE TRUTH in this country and its flattering to a democrat, they're accused of being "liberal."

Cry me a river.  []

My head will explode next week if Romney is the VP pick and they keep talking about it being historical for a Mormon to share a ticket.

Instead of "Gritz & Fritz" it will be "Mick & The Mormon".

A lot of evangelicals' heads will explode, too.

Evangelicals like other evangelicals -- unless they're Mormon, of course. Then they're cults.

[}:)]

[FOTD]

Historic is an understatement. Monumental would be more appropriate. Unless you are lacking in the "mental" part.

The devil is into exploding heads.[}:)]

[rwarn17588]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588

quote:Originally posted by Conan71



Anyone else still think with Obama making a surprise appearance last night that he's not trading, to an extent, on his race?  Pretty good symbolism for black Americans.

"The sweep of history could be overwhelming in itself: The previous evening Obama became the first black man to be a major political party's presidential candidate, his acceptance of the Democratic nomination coming on the 45th anniversary of Martin Luther King Jr.'s "I Have a Dream" speech."

Whaaaa???

Explain "trading on his race." I don't follow. I don't see any trading going on at all.

I and others who have been critical of Obama on here have been "reminded" time and again that Obama has never used his race to his advantage in the election or that race has not been an issue with him, nor that it has anything with him ascending to the spot he's got in the Democrat Party today.  The symbolism of making a surprise "unscripted" appearance on the 45th anniversary of Dr. King's most noted speech was anything but coincidence.

It should be noted that the schedule for the convention was set on January 11, 2007.

http://www.democrats.org/a/2007/01/denver_to_host.php

Heck, Obama didn't even announce his candidacy until February 2007.

Obviously, this schedule was set well before Obama received a single vote in a single primary or caucus, and that's when Hillary Clinton was still considered the prohibitive favorite. The nominee always speaks on the final night of the convention.

So to say the selection of the date was to help Obama flies in the face of the facts, unless the DNC was somehow clairvoyant.

So, yes, I'd say it was a happy accident for him, considering that no one was positive who the nominee would be 20 months ago.

BTW, the "unscripted" appearance last night was not on the anniversary of the King speech. The anniversary is today. King's speech was on Aug. 28, 1963.

Conan, if you're going to allege some lame conspiracy or other "trading in" theories, you'd better have your facts straight or you'll look mighty foolish.

C'mon. You're a reasonably smart guy. I expect better of you. [V]

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by rwarn17588


BTW, the "unscripted" appearance last night was not on the anniversary of the King speech. The anniversary is today. King's speech was on Aug. 28, 1963.

Conan, if you're going to allege some lame conspiracy or other "trading in" theories, you'd better have your facts straight or you'll look mighty foolish.

C'mon. You're a reasonably smart guy. I expect better of you. [V]

I'm blaming it on a defective calendar.  I'm getting ready to head to Target to get a refund. [}:)]

[FOTD]

Conan....pm me your phone number. The devil in me wants to hear what a head explosion sounds like.[8D]