News:

Long overdue maintenance happening. See post in the top forum.

Main Menu

My obsession with Sarah Palin

Started by RecycleMichael, September 04, 2008, 06:27:10 PM

Previous topic - Next topic

RecycleMichael

OK...I will try to explain my obsession with Sarah Palin. Those of you who have read my thousands of other posts know that I have obsessive-compulsive disorder. This is no excuse. I also am manic-depressive, but I have mixed feelings about it.

First, she is suddenly an even odds person to be Vice-President of the United States, arguably the second most important person in the world. A week ago none of us could have named her or any detail about her.

Almost every other person who has been on the ticket from the two major parties had been around campaigning or serving as a high level cabinet member of a previous administration for months if not years.

Look at this list...last time Kerry and Edwards both ran and were well known Senators who both campaigned for months as a candidate. Bush campaigned across the country and Cheney was a cabinet member under Bush 1 and a congressman. Gore and Leiberman were both campaigning for over a year and were both regulars on televison talk shows. Before that was Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, leader of the Senate and both ex-cabinet member and congressman. Both of them campaigned for months for President. Before that was Bush as two-year campaigner, a vice-president and cabinet member and Quayle who was...unknown like Sarah Palin.

Secondly, the Palin campaign has wanted us to talk about her family. They have sent out press releases each day with details about which daughter is pregnant, when the father-to-be boyfriend was arriving and where he would sit on the stage,  I even heard complete details about her baby and Down's syndrome from the conservative talk show hosts before anything else about her. Even the two major speeches she has given (Friday at announcement and Wednesday at the convention) have spent most of the time talking about her family. She has painstakingly introduced each of them during the speech and talked about how her son is going off to war.

The media have totally picked up on this. During last night's speech, the normal television crowd shots of important partisans and delegates with stupid hats were completely overshadowed by closeups of the littlest sister licking her fingers and straightening the newborn baby's hair.  

Honestly, the whole campaign to date has been that she is a mom. The rest of her speech has been all about John McCain and Barack Obama. She did well making fun of Obama so the republicans like her and seem to need to know nothing else to support her. I have to admit that it is a brilliant strategy. Having your Vice-President tell mean jokes filled with nonsensical slogans is smart. She can get a pass for a while because she isn't a politician, she is seen as "a mom" to all these children. I swear the more disfunctional they become, the more she attracts mom votes across America.

My obsession must be fueled in some part because she is a women. I know that is wrong, but I have just been around a bunch of politicians most of my life. The experience has been mostly that the male politicians have more ego issues and tend to become purists while women politicians tend to over-manage and continually build coalitins. I apologize if that comes across as sexist.

Finally, I think part of my obsession comes from the extreme positions she takes. I can be extreme in my views as well, so maybe what I like about her is what I fear in myself (it is probably the reason I have never ran for public office). Extremists become weapons in political discussions and have no future except for television talk shows and public forums like this one.

Her extremist views stand out. She is not only against abortion, she is opposed to it in any instance. Most of the pro-life people I know understand and would be supportive of abortions only when the mothers life is in danger or in the case of rape or incest. Not Sarah Palin. None ever.

Secondly, she, as Governor of Alaska, asked for more earmarks per person than any other state. Number one. The thing that John McCain has made his career on fighting earmarks in Washington and now he picks the queen of earmarks. Her campaigning now against earmarks is the same as a sex addict doing public service announcements for abstinence.

Then there is the fact that her husband has registered to vote as a member of a political party that wants to secede from America. She has attended their meetings and has even spoke before the group as Governor. I have never met a person who really wanted to secede from America before. I know people who want Tulsa to secede from Oklahoma and I even met a person who moved to Canada after Bush was re-elected in 2004, but to have your whole town leave America? How can you be married to a guy who wants to leave America and still serve as Vice-President of America?

Finally, I guess I am just obsessed with her religious views and statements. She campaigns for mandatory classroom teaching of  creationism and says the war in Iraq is a "mission from God". Those are views held by others, but I have rarely heard a national candidate utter, if ever.

Thank you for understanding. It is why I have posted more salacious and ubsubstantiated rumors on this website than is my norm. It is why I talk about "the politicians" and not "the politics." I know it is like Texas to an Oklahoman. It is beneath us.

I apologize.
Power is nothing till you use it.

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Friendly Bear

#2
quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

OK...I will try to explain my obsession with Sarah Palin. Those of you who have read my thousands of other posts know that I have obsessive-compulsive disorder. This is no excuse. I also am manic-depressive, but I have mixed feelings about it.

First, she is suddenly an even odds person to be Vice-President of the United States, arguably the second most important person in the world. A week ago none of us could have named her or any detail about her.

Almost every other person who has been on the ticket from the two major parties had been around campaigning or serving as a high level cabinet member of a previous administration for months if not years.

Look at this list...last time Kerry and Edwards both ran and were well known Senators who both campaigned for months as a candidate. Bush campaigned across the country and Cheney was a cabinet member under Bush 1 and a congressman. Gore and Leiberman were both campaigning for over a year and were both regulars on televison talk shows. Before that was Bob Dole and Jack Kemp, leader of the Senate and both ex-cabinet member and congressman. Both of them campaigned for months for President. Before that was Bush as two-year campaigner, a vice-president and cabinet member and Quayle who was...unknown like Sarah Palin.

Secondly, the Palin campaign has wanted us to talk about her family. They have sent out press releases each day with details about which daughter is pregnant, when the father-to-be boyfriend was arriving and where he would sit on the stage,  I even heard complete details about her baby and Down's syndrome from the conservative talk show hosts before anything else about her. Even the two major speeches she has given (Friday at announcement and Wednesday at the convention) have spent most of the time talking about her family. She has painstakingly introduced each of them during the speech and talked about how her son is going off to war.

The media have totally picked up on this. During last night's speech, the normal television crowd shots of important partisans and delegates with stupid hats were completely overshadowed by closeups of the littlest sister licking her fingers and straightening the newborn baby's hair.  

Honestly, the whole campaign to date has been that she is a mom. The rest of her speech has been all about John McCain and Barack Obama. She did well making fun of Obama so the republicans like her and seem to need to know nothing else to support her. I have to admit that it is a brilliant strategy. Having your Vice-President tell mean jokes filled with nonsensical slogans is smart. She can get a pass for a while because she isn't a politician, she is seen as "a mom" to all these children. I swear the more disfunctional they become, the more she attracts mom votes across America.

My obsession must be fueled in some part because she is a women. I know that is wrong, but I have just been around a bunch of politicians most of my life. The experience has been mostly that the male politicians have more ego issues and tend to become purists while women politicians tend to over-manage and continually build coalitins. I apologize if that comes across as sexist.

Finally, I think part of my obsession comes from the extreme positions she takes. I can be extreme in my views as well, so maybe what I like about her is what I fear in myself (it is probably the reason I have never ran for public office). Extremists become weapons in political discussions and have no future except for television talk shows and public forums like this one.

Her extremist views stand out. She is not only against abortion, she is opposed to it in any instance. Most of the pro-life people I know understand and would be supportive of abortions only when the mothers life is in danger or in the case of rape or incest. Not Sarah Palin. None ever.

Secondly, she, as Governor of Alaska, asked for more earmarks per person than any other state. Number one. The thing that John McCain has made his career on fighting earmarks in Washington and now he picks the queen of earmarks. Her campaigning now against earmarks is the same as a sex addict doing public service announcements for abstinence.

Then there is the fact that her husband has registered to vote as a member of a political party that wants to secede from America. She has attended their meetings and has even spoke before the group as Governor. I have never met a person who really wanted to secede from America before. I know people who want Tulsa to secede from Oklahoma and I even met a person who moved to Canada after Bush was re-elected in 2004, but to have your whole town leave America? How can you be married to a guy who wants to leave America and still serve as Vice-President of America?

Finally, I guess I am just obsessed with her religious views and statements. She campaigns for mandatory classroom teaching of  creationism and says the war in Iraq is a "mission from God". Those are views held by others, but I have rarely heard a national candidate utter, if ever.

Thank you for understanding. It is why I have posted more salacious and ubsubstantiated rumors on this website than is my norm. It is why I talk about "the politicians" and not "the politics." I know it is like Texas to an Oklahoman. It is beneath us.

I apologize.



Interesting, you really hadn't heard of her?  You must be reading the Lorton's World.  

Governor Palin has been frequently, prior to her selection as VP, profiled in a number of MSM publications, including Newsweek last year.

It was an article about Women State Governors.
For "balance", they chose Dem. Janet Napolitano and GOP Sarah Palin.  

Quite a comparison: Lesbian dyke-haircut lawyer compared to beautiful Hockey Mom with beehive hairdo.  

I had heard of her for taking on the Alaska GOP Good Old Boy establishment, read many news articles about her, and watched her on CNN a few months ago in an interview.

Possibly the over-reaction by the Looney Left and the MSM Surrogates has been so strong because they simply do not understand how a functioning middle-class family works.  A functional family is a mutually-supporting team effort.  

Sarah has a "surprise" child late in her reproductory era, and can readily balance job and family because she has an extensive support system of family, parents, in-laws, and friends from the community.  

I presume her Husband, the First Dude, will move the family to D.C. when she becomes VP, and becomes the full-time stay-at-home Dad for the next four years.  They have a marriage.

They'll be able to afford him not working outside the home since she'll be getting a large pay increase, a Free House, and GREAT benefits like Air Force 2 to fly back to Alaska, for official business, of course.

She'll ably manage multi-tasking just as she's done all her public life.

This is mostly a media-created Tempest in a Teapot.  

Afterall, to quote President Cool Calvin Coolidge, being Vice President "isn't worth a bucket of warm spit".....

[:O]

RecycleMichael

No wonder it doesn't matter to you, bear. You don't think the job is important enough to have a ready candidate.

I am not surprised. You think everything is crooked. Why would it matter to you who wins?
Power is nothing till you use it.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No wonder it doesn't matter to you, bear. You don't think the job is important enough to have a ready candidate.

I am not surprised. You think everything is crooked. Why would it matter to you who wins?



Who is elected President matters a lot.  

The VP position CONSTITUTIONALLY makes it a job with virtually no duties, and many Presidents have been so consumed with their power that they don't share any with a VP.  

President of the Senate really in name only is a dull duty for the VP.

There were many other ready candidates for VP.

McCain chose well.

Obama chose poorly.  He could have had Hillary, and he picked Biden.

Either way, if elected, he'll still need a food taster with oily Senator Biden looming.

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No wonder it doesn't matter to you, bear. You don't think the job is important enough to have a ready candidate.

I am not surprised. You think everything is crooked. Why would it matter to you who wins?



Who is elected President matters a lot.  

The VP position CONSTITUTIONALLY makes it a job with virtually no duties, and many Presidents have been so consumed with their power that they don't share any with a VP.  

President of the Senate really in name only is a dull duty for the VP.

There were many other ready candidates for VP.

McCain chose well.

Obama chose poorly.  He could have had Hillary, and he picked Biden.

Either way, if elected, he'll still need a food taster with oily Senator Biden looming.




And McCain's age and health history doesn't play a factor?

This guy is 72 years old with a history of skin cancer and other ailments.  If elected, he'll be older than Reagan was when he took office.  Reagan was a might healthier, too.

To have essentially someone with 18 months of ANY executive experience and very little else, other than running (and poorly, from what I've read) a city the size of Sand Springs, one heartbeat from the White House concerns me GREATLY.

If Obama should be unfortunate enough not to be able to complete his term, then I'm pretty confident that Biden could step in and do well.

I think once a lot of down-the-middle voters look at this and see if something should happen to McCain and see who is waiting in the wings, their votes will be sealed.

No more squawking about inexperience from the McSame camp.  They just lost one of their most valuable talking points starting last Friday.

Friendly Bear

#6
quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by RecycleMichael

No wonder it doesn't matter to you, bear. You don't think the job is important enough to have a ready candidate.

I am not surprised. You think everything is crooked. Why would it matter to you who wins?



Who is elected President matters a lot.  

The VP position CONSTITUTIONALLY makes it a job with virtually no duties, and many Presidents have been so consumed with their power that they don't share any with a VP.  

President of the Senate really in name only is a dull duty for the VP.

There were many other ready candidates for VP.

McCain chose well.

Obama chose poorly.  He could have had Hillary, and he picked Biden.

Either way, if elected, he'll still need a food taster with oily Senator Biden looming.




And McCain's age and health history doesn't play a factor?

This guy is 72 years old with a history of skin cancer and other ailments.  If elected, he'll be older than Reagan was when he took office.  Reagan was a might healthier, too.

To have essentially someone with 18 months of ANY executive experience and very little else, other than running (and poorly, from what I've read) a city the size of Sand Springs, one heartbeat from the White House concerns me GREATLY.

If Obama should be unfortunate enough not to be able to complete his term, then I'm pretty confident that Biden could step in and do well.

I think once a lot of down-the-middle voters look at this and see if something should happen to McCain and see who is waiting in the wings, their votes will be sealed.

No more squawking about inexperience from the McSame camp.  They just lost one of their most valuable talking points starting last Friday.



Question:

How many MINUTES of executive experience does Barack the Redeemer possess?

Answer:  

ZERO.

-0-

Nada.

Zilch.

0.0000000000000000000

Isn't he at the TOP of your ticket?

Osama-Biden.

Not, Biden-Obama.

[:P]

Ed W

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Quote

Question:

How many MINUTES of executive experience does Barack the Redeemer possess?

Answer:  

ZERO.

-0-

Nada.

Zilch.

0.0000000000000000000





As Jon Stewart pointed out on the Daily Show last night, the above is equally true of Senator McCain.  If executive experience weighed heavily, Sarah Palin would be the top of the ticket.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Quote

Question:

How many MINUTES of executive experience does Barack the Redeemer possess?

Answer:  

ZERO.

-0-

Nada.

Zilch.

0.0000000000000000000





As Jon Stewart pointed out on the Daily Show last night, the above is equally true of Senator McCain.  If executive experience weighed heavily, Sarah Palin would be the top of the ticket.



Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.

Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Quote

Question:

How many MINUTES of executive experience does Barack the Redeemer possess?

Answer:  

ZERO.

-0-

Nada.

Zilch.

0.0000000000000000000





As Jon Stewart pointed out on the Daily Show last night, the above is equally true of Senator McCain.  If executive experience weighed heavily, Sarah Palin would be the top of the ticket.



Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.




If so, I hope his capacity for learning is better now than it was when he was near the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy.  Or else we're in for a long four years.  Again.

Ed W

quote:


Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.




OK, let's review.  Our government has a legislative branch, an executive branch, and a judicial branch.  Senator McCain has served in the legislative branch.  The Navy belongs to none of them.
Ed

May you live in interesting times.

Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

quote:


Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.




OK, let's review.  Our government has a legislative branch, an executive branch, and a judicial branch.  Senator McCain has served in the legislative branch.  The Navy belongs to none of them.



The Navy is part of the Executive branch of the government.

U.S. Civics 101.

His Naval Aviation squadron could have actually been larger than a few hundred sailors.  It was a Training Squadron, and these type of units are often swollen due to trainee throughput.

iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

quote:


Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.




OK, let's review.  Our government has a legislative branch, an executive branch, and a judicial branch.  Senator McCain has served in the legislative branch.  The Navy belongs to none of them.



The Navy is part of the Executive branch of the government.

U.S. Civics 101.

His Naval Aviation squadron could have actually been larger than a few hundred sailors.  It was a Training Squadron, and these type of units are often swollen due to trainee throughput.


You're wasting their time.  I don't think the facts are going to make much of a difference to them.

Friendly Bear

#13
quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

quote:


Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.




OK, let's review.  Our government has a legislative branch, an executive branch, and a judicial branch.  Senator McCain has served in the legislative branch.  The Navy belongs to none of them.



The Navy is part of the Executive branch of the government.

U.S. Civics 101.

His Naval Aviation squadron could have actually been larger than a few hundred sailors.  It was a Training Squadron, and these type of units are often swollen due to trainee throughput.


You're wasting their time.  I don't think the facts are going to make much of a difference to them.



We should always strive to educate the uninformed on this Forum.

This will help Hoss and Ed W.:

The U.S. Navy is commanded by a 4-Star Admiral called the Chief of Naval Operations.

He reports to the Secretary of the Navy, a civilian selected by the President.

The Secretary of the Navy reports to the Secretary of Defense, a cabinet position within the Executive branch of the U.S. Government.

The Secretary of Defense reports to his boss:

The President and Commander-in-Chief.

Chain of Command.

Hope this helps.

guido911

quote:
Originally posted by Hoss

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:
Originally posted by Ed W

quote:
Originally posted by Friendly Bear

Quote

Question:

How many MINUTES of executive experience does Barack the Redeemer possess?

Answer:  

ZERO.

-0-

Nada.

Zilch.

0.0000000000000000000





As Jon Stewart pointed out on the Daily Show last night, the above is equally true of Senator McCain.  If executive experience weighed heavily, Sarah Palin would be the top of the ticket.



Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.

Next Job:  Commander-in-Chief.




If so, I hope his capacity for learning is better now than it was when he was near the bottom of his class at the Naval Academy.  Or else we're in for a long four years.  Again.



Yep Hoss, Biden is a freakin genius! Bottom of his law school class and plagiarist:

http://query.nytimes.com/gst/fullpage.html?res=9B0DE3DB143FF93BA2575AC0A961948260

But he does have a high I.Q., just ask him.

By the way, has Obama released his college records yet?

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.