Why do republicans mock "community organizer" ?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Me saying no one is that stupid is another way of me saying it is inaccurate. Anyone who says Obama has more or equal experience as McCain needs to check into the mental institution.

I said 'executive experience'.  A little different.

Neither of them has it.  Correct?  On this we can agree?  I didn't say 'experience', I qualified it.

You're good at twisting the words.

Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, $millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.  That IS executive experience in the Executive Branch of the Government.

Next Job: Commander-in-Chief.

You're grasping now...

Why is a Squadron commander NOT executive experience with the rank of Captain?

A Navy Captain is equivalent to an AirForce or Army COLONEL?

He was responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, staffing and personnel evaluations, training, operations, safety and controls, health, morale and welfare of the personnel of a medium-sized organization that is part of an enormous organization:  

The U.S. Navy.

What have you ever been in charge of except a Porta-Potty mouth?

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Me saying no one is that stupid is another way of me saying it is inaccurate. Anyone who says Obama has more or equal experience as McCain needs to check into the mental institution.

I said 'executive experience'.  A little different.

Neither of them has it.  Correct?  On this we can agree?  I didn't say 'experience', I qualified it.

You're good at twisting the words.

Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, $millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.  That IS executive experience in the Executive Branch of the Government.

Next Job: Commander-in-Chief.

You're grasping now...

Why is a Squadron commander NOT executive experience with the rank of Captain?

A Navy Captain is equivalent to an AirForce or Army COLONEL?

He was responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, staffing and personnel evaluations, training, operations, safety and controls, health, morale and welfare of the personnel of a medium-sized organization that is part of an enormous organization:  

The U.S. Navy.

What have you ever been in charge of except a Porta-Potty mouth?

Resorting to personal attacks when you can't clearly answer my question.

Not very surprising, especially coming from one who constantly complains about people attacking you personally when you lose the argument.

I just don't equate a squadron commander as the same as executive experience.  Apples/oranges.

[:O]

[grahambino]

Good question, RM.
It's a real shame, he didn't go become a corporate lawyer for Shell.  A real shame.
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I find it laughable that a communications major from the Univ. of Idaho is mocking someone who went to Harvard Law.  That's rich.

[grahambino]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Me saying no one is that stupid is another way of me saying it is inaccurate. Anyone who says Obama has more or equal experience as McCain needs to check into the mental institution.

I said 'executive experience'.  A little different.

Neither of them has it.  Correct?  On this we can agree?  I didn't say 'experience', I qualified it.

You're good at twisting the words.

Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, $millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.  That IS executive experience in the Executive Branch of the Government.

Next Job: Commander-in-Chief.

You're grasping now...

Why is a Squadron commander NOT executive experience with the rank of Captain?

A Navy Captain is equivalent to an AirForce or Army COLONEL?

He was responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, staffing and personnel evaluations, training, operations, safety and controls, health, morale and welfare of the personnel of a medium-sized organization that is part of an enormous organization:  

The U.S. Navy.

What have you ever been in charge of except a Porta-Potty mouth?

Resorting to personal attacks when you can't clearly answer my question.

Not very surprising, especially coming from one who constantly complains about people attacking you personally when you lose the argument.

I just don't equate a squadron commander as the same as executive experience.  Apples/oranges.

[:O]

but being a mayor of a small town in Alaska sure is 'executive experience'.  
Is that how far you have to reach to prop up your candidate?  It seems a disservice to John McCain's military service to compare being a Navy Captain with a mayor.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

Nope.

http://www.chicagoreader.com/obama/951208/

From 1984 to '88 Obama built an organization in Roseland and the nearby Altgeld Gardens public housing complex that mobilized hundreds of citizens. Obama says the campaign experienced "modest successes" in winning residents a place at the table where a job-training facility was launched, asbestos and lead paint were negotiated out of the local schools, and community interests were guarded in the development of the area's landfills.

Those wonderful community housing projects have already been boarded up because the projects went bankrupt.  The area is known as the "toxic doughnut." What exactly did he accomplish again?

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by grahambino

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Me saying no one is that stupid is another way of me saying it is inaccurate. Anyone who says Obama has more or equal experience as McCain needs to check into the mental institution.

I said 'executive experience'.  A little different.

Neither of them has it.  Correct?  On this we can agree?  I didn't say 'experience', I qualified it.

You're good at twisting the words.

Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, $millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.  That IS executive experience in the Executive Branch of the Government.

Next Job: Commander-in-Chief.

You're grasping now...

Why is a Squadron commander NOT executive experience with the rank of Captain?

A Navy Captain is equivalent to an AirForce or Army COLONEL?

He was responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, staffing and personnel evaluations, training, operations, safety and controls, health, morale and welfare of the personnel of a medium-sized organization that is part of an enormous organization:  

The U.S. Navy.

What have you ever been in charge of except a Porta-Potty mouth?

Resorting to personal attacks when you can't clearly answer my question.

Not very surprising, especially coming from one who constantly complains about people attacking you personally when you lose the argument.

I just don't equate a squadron commander as the same as executive experience.  Apples/oranges.

[:O]

but being a mayor of a small town in Alaska sure is 'executive experience'.  
Is that how far you have to reach to prop up your candidate?  It seems a disservice to John McCain's military service to compare being a Navy Captain with a mayor.

Isn't she now GOVERNOR Palin of Alaska?

The Largest state in the U.S.?

[Chicken Little]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

Why do Republicans mock "community organizer" role?

This was puzzling to me, too.  Republicans are supposed to be the party of that encourages people to pull themselves up by their bootstraps.  Fact is, in a lot of poor communities people don't know how to take that first step and welcome somebody who can show them the ropes.

A community organizer comes in and helps them get focused on a few objectives job training, college prep, etc.  The fact that this was "faith-based" is even more puzzling.  He wasn't working for government.

Should charities run soup lines or help people to help themselves?  Apparently neither, according to my read of the Republicans the other night.  Callous and stupid; it says a lot about what the Republicans think of poor people in general.  Doesn't matter if they are trying to help themselves I guess.

Same 'ole two-faced Republican arguments.  John McCain is a public servant whose been in Washington a long, long, time; his campaign staff are lobbyists.  But Obama is a grassroots guy who goes into poor neighborhoods and helps people find jobs and get an education.  Booooo!  Obama is a community organizer.  Booooo!  What a bad joke.

[grahambino]

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by grahambino

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Me saying no one is that stupid is another way of me saying it is inaccurate. Anyone who says Obama has more or equal experience as McCain needs to check into the mental institution.

I said 'executive experience'.  A little different.

Neither of them has it.  Correct?  On this we can agree?  I didn't say 'experience', I qualified it.

You're good at twisting the words.

Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, $millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.  That IS executive experience in the Executive Branch of the Government.

Next Job: Commander-in-Chief.

You're grasping now...

Why is a Squadron commander NOT executive experience with the rank of Captain?

A Navy Captain is equivalent to an AirForce or Army COLONEL?

He was responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, staffing and personnel evaluations, training, operations, safety and controls, health, morale and welfare of the personnel of a medium-sized organization that is part of an enormous organization:  

The U.S. Navy.

What have you ever been in charge of except a Porta-Potty mouth?

Resorting to personal attacks when you can't clearly answer my question.

Not very surprising, especially coming from one who constantly complains about people attacking you personally when you lose the argument.

I just don't equate a squadron commander as the same as executive experience.  Apples/oranges.

[:O]

but being a mayor of a small town in Alaska sure is 'executive experience'.  
Is that how far you have to reach to prop up your candidate?  It seems a disservice to John McCain's military service to compare being a Navy Captain with a mayor.

Isn't she now GOVERNOR Palin of Alaska?

The Largest state in the U.S.?

Isn't he now SENATOR McCain of Arizona?
Both were former jobs, correct?.

You can't have it both ways.  

If any of you attempt to compare Palin's 'executive experience' with John McCain's 'executive experience' as a Navy Captain you've done a total disservice to our military, the military chain of command & John McCain himself.  I hope your little cabal is happy and satisfied using someone's military experience in that way.  
I am for one am happy McCain served in the military, just to prop up your pathetic attempts @ debate and to continue making you look like a complete partisan hack that hasn't a modicum of original or lucid thought.

[Friendly Bear]

quote:Originally posted by grahambino

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by grahambino

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Friendly Bear

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

Me saying no one is that stupid is another way of me saying it is inaccurate. Anyone who says Obama has more or equal experience as McCain needs to check into the mental institution.

I said 'executive experience'.  A little different.

Neither of them has it.  Correct?  On this we can agree?  I didn't say 'experience', I qualified it.

You're good at twisting the words.

Navy Captain John McCain served as Squadron Commander after he returned from 5 1/2 years as a P.O.W.

As Squadron commander, he was responsible for several hundred personnel, $millions in Navy property and airplanes, accomplishing the missions assigned, and the health, welfare and discipline of the military unit.

Commander.  That IS executive experience in the Executive Branch of the Government.

Next Job: Commander-in-Chief.

You're grasping now...

Why is a Squadron commander NOT executive experience with the rank of Captain?

A Navy Captain is equivalent to an AirForce or Army COLONEL?

He was responsible for a multi-million dollar budget, staffing and personnel evaluations, training, operations, safety and controls, health, morale and welfare of the personnel of a medium-sized organization that is part of an enormous organization:  

The U.S. Navy.

What have you ever been in charge of except a Porta-Potty mouth?

Resorting to personal attacks when you can't clearly answer my question.

Not very surprising, especially coming from one who constantly complains about people attacking you personally when you lose the argument.

I just don't equate a squadron commander as the same as executive experience.  Apples/oranges.

[:O]

but being a mayor of a small town in Alaska sure is 'executive experience'.  
Is that how far you have to reach to prop up your candidate?  It seems a disservice to John McCain's military service to compare being a Navy Captain with a mayor.

Isn't she now GOVERNOR Palin of Alaska?

The Largest state in the U.S.?

Isn't he now SENATOR McCain of Arizona?
Both were former jobs, correct?.

You can't have it both ways.  

If any of you attempt to compare Palin's 'executive experience' with John McCain's 'executive experience' as a Navy Captain you've done a total disservice to our military, the military chain of command & John McCain himself.  I hope your little cabal is happy and satisfied using someone's military experience in that way.  
I am for one am happy McCain served in the military, just to prop up your pathetic attempts @ debate and to continue making you look like a complete partisan hack that hasn't a modicum of original or lucid thought.

Gee, can't a person have multiple jobs to help prepare them for Commander-in-Chief?

McCain served for 22 years in the Navy, and retired as a Captain.  As a Squadron commander, that is a functionary at an executive level.  

He was next a congressman for six years, then a Senator since then.

This is his second run for Presidency, so he's been "vetted" throroughly before.

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by Chicken Little

Same 'ole two-faced Republican arguments.  John McCain is a public servant whose been in Washington a long, long, time; his campaign staff are lobbyists.  But Obama is a grassroots guy who goes into poor neighborhoods and helps people find jobs and get an education.  Booooo!  Obama is a community organizer.  Booooo!  What a bad joke.

I hate to burst your partisan bubble, but Obama has lobbyists in paid positions within his campaign.  And at the same time he was organizing the community in Chicago, he was working angles with the Chicago political machine aligning himself with charaters like Rezco in order to get elected to the state legislature.  I'm sure you just forgot to mention that stuff though...

[FOTD]

WHY? Because mean people suck.....

Republicans Are Mean
By Mary Lyon

http://www.californiaprogressreport.com/2008/09/republicans_are_1.html


"I sat through Rudy Giuliani and the debut of Sarah Palin – and I've come to only one conclusion. Republicans are mean. No whining here. I'm no Phil Gramm. Just an objective statement of fact based on first-person observation. Nasty. Snarky. Mocking. Sarcastic, Punch you in the nose first and then laugh at you because your face is full of blood and you look kinda funny now. And then kick you while you're still down – don't forget that one. Jesus says so. And then holler "USA! USA! USA!" and "Drill, Baby, Drill!" Nice people. And distressingly enough, on the second/third/whatever night of the Republican Convention, the Xcel Energy Center in St. Paul was filled with them. And they sure don't seem interested in winning my vote. "

"I should have known. I've sat through more Republican raise-the-roof campaign speeches than I can stomach. The hypocrisy and half-truths (at best), and flat-out lies (at worst) were legion. Both Palin and Giuliani also made sure to include the reliable fall-back references to 9/11, although Palin had an ingenious new way to sneak it in. After all, her older son ships off to some place called EYE-rack on – bless my soul – September 11th of this very year. I guess he'll be fighting for her freedom to mock and insult and belittle all the people with whom she disagrees."

"If you want smart-donkey remarks and cruel, arrogant putdowns, and you want to talk trash about Barack Obama, Palin and pals are your kind of people. Palin proved in her big speech that she could sling mud as well as shooting moose. Yes, she can dish it out. And she can read that speech that was written for her by the McCain campaign guys very well. Here's hoping she'll be able to take it, too, because she made it clear that she's ready to play with the big boys – on equal footing, and to be as mean, nasty, and insulting if not more so. Maybe that also means they no longer have to live under the restrictions against duking it out with a girl. "


But is Palin tough enough to meet the press?
dudebag and dudebag?

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

So are you saying he didn't get executive experience in the military?
Devaluing military service ... is that what the Democrat party is these days? It sure as heck seems like it.

Par for the course. They hate the fact that our soldiers have the right to vote and have a documented history of trying to prevent our soldiers from having their votes counted.

[FOTD]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

So are you saying he didn't get executive experience in the military?
Devaluing military service ... is that what the Democrat party is these days? It sure as heck seems like it.

Par for the course. They hate the fact that our soldiers have the right to vote and have a documented history of trying to prevent our soldiers from having their votes counted.

What mularkey!

Your lies keep getting worse.

Mean people suck.....

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by FOTD

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by Cubs

So are you saying he didn't get executive experience in the military?
Devaluing military service ... is that what the Democrat party is these days? It sure as heck seems like it.

Par for the course. They hate the fact that our soldiers have the right to vote and have a documented history of trying to prevent our soldiers from having their votes counted.

What mularkey!

Your lies keep getting worse.

Mean people suck.....

FU aox:

http://www.nationalreview.com/babbin/babbin200408190823.asp

http://republican_strat.tripod.com/GoreLostFlorida/id10.html

Look at the Herron memo near the bottom of the second link.

[jne]

Community Organizers hate freedom

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=Kr6IwwcdlgY