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Started by FOTD, September 10, 2008, 11:26:49 AM

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FOTD

GREAT NEW OBAMA AD!

http://link.brightcove.com/services/player/bcpid1185304443?bctid=1786848892

What's happened to the old white wrinkley guy?
Deception is all he has left.
He's dishonorable!

Great stuff!


FOTD

Yes, leadership: 'Barack Obama said Monday the upheaval on Wall Street was "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression" and blamed it on policies that he said Republican rival John McCain supports.'



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_el_pr/obama

waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Yes, leadership: 'Barack Obama said Monday the upheaval on Wall Street was "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression" and blamed it on policies that he said Republican rival John McCain supports.'



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_el_pr/obama



And yet I listened and watched closely on CNN, NPR, MSNBC and ABC and heard nothing of Obama's reply. What's going on with that? Video of Palin shrieking on three channels that they won't let this stuff happen during their administration. McCain still blurting out that the fundamentals of the economy are just fine. Bush says he understands our pain.

But no Obama coverage.

Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Yes, leadership: 'Barack Obama said Monday the upheaval on Wall Street was "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression" and blamed it on policies that he said Republican rival John McCain supports.'



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_el_pr/obama



And yet I listened and watched closely on CNN, NPR, MSNBC and ABC and heard nothing of Obama's reply. What's going on with that? Video of Palin shrieking on three channels that they won't let this stuff happen during their administration. McCain still blurting out that the fundamentals of the economy are just fine. Bush says he understands our pain.

But no Obama coverage.



Because Obama had nothing of substance to say:

"Bush = bad.  McCain = Bush 44"

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11411

I think his media gauntlet realized what a turd this speech was.  He's not going to win on an indictment of the Bush admin.  He needs to share more what his bright ideas are.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by Conan71

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Yes, leadership: 'Barack Obama said Monday the upheaval on Wall Street was "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression" and blamed it on policies that he said Republican rival John McCain supports.'



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_el_pr/obama



And yet I listened and watched closely on CNN, NPR, MSNBC and ABC and heard nothing of Obama's reply. What's going on with that? Video of Palin shrieking on three channels that they won't let this stuff happen during their administration. McCain still blurting out that the fundamentals of the economy are just fine. Bush says he understands our pain.

But no Obama coverage.



Because Obama had nothing of substance to say:

"Bush = bad.  McCain = Bush 44"

http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/topic.asp?TOPIC_ID=11411

I think his media gauntlet realized what a turd this speech was.  He's not going to win on an indictment of the Bush admin.  He needs to share more what his bright ideas are.





Sorry, Conan, that description could serve as well for Bush, McCain and Palin. There were no bright ideas only what I wrote.

Bush: Yeah, it hurts.
Palin: Not under our reign!
McCain: Nothing to see here, move along.

It seems the press is showing its real bias and its not Liberals for Obama!

RecycleMichael

quote:
Originally posted by waterboy

quote:
Originally posted by FOTD

Yes, leadership: 'Barack Obama said Monday the upheaval on Wall Street was "the most serious financial crisis since the Great Depression" and blamed it on policies that he said Republican rival John McCain supports.'



http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/20080915/ap_on_el_pr/obama



And yet I listened and watched closely on CNN, NPR, MSNBC and ABC and heard nothing of Obama's reply. What's going on with that? Video of Palin shrieking on three channels that they won't let this stuff happen during their administration. McCain still blurting out that the fundamentals of the economy are just fine. Bush says he understands our pain.

But no Obama coverage.



Maybe Obama was actually listening with economists instead of speaking to reporters.

Maybe he was too hung over from drinking tequila shots with the heads of every major media outlet (who love him).

Not speaking to the cameras for half a day seems like acceptable behavior to me.

I guess the Bush/McCain/Palin camps all felt rushing out to speak as fast as possible was better for their candidates. You would think that they would be a little sensitive about the issue, but I guess if you triple team it, you can say whatever you want.
Power is nothing till you use it.

iplaw

He's spoken about it at at least two different campaign rallies today.  

FYI, if he were actually LISTENING to economists, he wouldn't be espousing the tax policy he has on his website.

we vs us

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Originally posted by iplaw

He's spoken about it at at least two different campaign rallies today.  

FYI, if he were actually LISTENING to economists, he wouldn't be espousing the tax policy he has on his website.



Handily enough, here's a  list of economists who support Obama's policies.  Click through some of the source links; they go directly to primary source articles.

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Economic policy advisors:
Jason Furman (director of economy policy)
Austan Goolsbee (senior economic policy advisor), University of Chicago tax policy expert
Karen Kornbluh (policy director)
David Cutler, Harvard health policy expert
Jeff Liebman, Harvard welfare expert
Michael Froman, Citigroup executive
Daniel Tarullo, Georgetown law professor
David Romer, Berkeley macroeconomist
Christina Romer, Berkeley economic historian Richard Thaler, University of Chicago behavioral finance expert
Robert Rubin, former Treasury Secretary
Larry Summers, former Treasury Secretary
Alan Blinder, former Vice-chairman of the Federal Reserve
Jared Bernstein, Economic Policy Institute labor economist
James Galbraith, University of Texas macroeconomist
Paul Volcker, Chairman of the Federal Reserve 1979-1987
Laura Tyson, Berkeley international economist, Bill Clinton economic adviser
Robert Reich, Berkeley public policy professor, former Secretary of Labor
Peter Henry, Stanford international economist
Gene Sperling, former White House economic adviser

Other prominent economists who support Obama:
Brad Delong, Berkeley macroeconomist
Joseph Stiglitz, 2001 Nobel laureate
Edmund Phelps, 2006 Nobel laureate
Ray Fair, Yale macroeconomist
Dan McFadden, 2000 Nobel laureate
Robert Solow, 1987 Nobel laureate

Prominent finance people who support Obama: (not actually economists)
William Donaldson, Securities and Exchange Commission (SEC) Chair 2003-05
Arthur Levitt, SEC chair 1993-2001
David Ruder, SEC chair 1987-1989
Warren Buffet, investor, richest person in world



iplaw

Oh boy.  Do you want the list of economists who back McCain now?  Incidentally, how does one become a "welfare expert?"

USRufnex

Yeah, nothing like trotting out the usual list of economists from the Republican side of the aisle who think making the Bush tax cuts for the rich permanent in a time of war is a GREAT idea...
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we vs us

quote:
Originally posted by iplaw

Oh boy.  Do you want the list of economists who back McCain now?  Incidentally, how does one become a "welfare expert?"



Hey, why not.  Who backs McCain?

USRufnex

I know... I know... pick me....

http://econ4obama.blogspot.com/2008/06/other-list-mccains-economists.html

Saturday, June 14, 2008
The Other List: McCain's Economic Advisers
Who are the people who have left McCain confused about his own opinions? Here are his economic advisers mentioned in the press:

Doug Holtz-Eakin source
Holtz-Eakin is a formerly respected academic and government economist who has been reduced to making distortionary arguments to paper over the massive deficit black hole McCain's tax cuts would create.

Arthur Laffer source
Laffer is the originator of the Laffer curve, the fringe view that claims government revenue increases when tax rates are lowered. There is zero empirical evidence this is true at current tax rates. McCain has repeatedly said that he believes this foolishness, but Holtz-Eakin has said (also repeatedly) that McCain does not.

Phil Gramm source
Gramm is a lobbyist who was vice president of one of the investment houses most heavily implicated in the mortage industry scandal. As a senator he pushed for the banking deregulation that contributed to the current crisis. See more here.

Kevin Hassett source
Hassett has been widely ridiculed for writing the book Dow 36000: The New Strategy for Profiting from the Coming Rise in the Stock Market in 1999, predicting that the Dow would hit 36,000 within five years, if not sooner.

Donald Luskin source
Luskin has been repeatedly named the Stupidest Man Alive by Brad Delong. See here for an example. I can attest based on my own interaction with him a few years back that in addition to being not the sharpest tack in the box, he is also an extremely unpleasant person.

Nancy Pfotenhauer source
Pfotenhauer is a pure distilled product of Koch Industries, an oil company which funds much of the right wing message machine. See here for details.

Carly Fiorina source
Fiorina was spectacularly fired from her previous job as CEO of HP. According to the Times,


... Republicans say Ms. Fiorina is using the McCain campaign to rebuild her image after her explosive tenure at Hewlett-Packard. They also say it is hard to see why a woman widely criticized for mismanaging one of Silicon Valley's legendary companies is advising and representing a candidate who acknowledged last year that he did not understand the economy as well as he should.

Regarding Fiorina, Jeffrey Sonnenfeld, the senior associate dean for executive programs at the Yale School of Management, says "What a blind spot this is in the McCain campaign to have elevated her stature and centrality in this way. You couldn't pick a worse, non-imprisoned C.E.O. to be your standard-bearer."

With clowns like these advising him, it's not surprising that doesn't even know what his own positions are on major questions of economic policy. Admittedly, there's a difficult problem of cause-and-effect here. Is he incoherent because he gets lousy advice, or is it his utter ignorance on economic issues that led him to seek guidance from this crew? As evidence for the latter hypothesis, he has said "The issue of economics is not something I've understood as well as I should," and made similar assertions on many occasions.

Conan71

And now, in fairness, you are going to trot out the ascerbic bios on Obama's economic advisors?

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

USRufnex

No.

Because the conservative BS-artists at TNF have no respect for even-handedness...

And then there are those who pretend to be even-handed libertarians while tarring and feathering a perfectly good candidate....

I remember Graham-Rudman..... I watched alot of classmates have to quit college... I had to work graveyard shifts at Village Inn while a full time student... I know what it feels like to yourself financial slip every year doing part-time retail jobs linked to minimum wage... I know what a minimum wage freeze feels like... all that time back in the 80s, I just thought I was doing "my share" to reduce the deficit... I don't want anybody else or any other generation of 20-somethings to have to go through that...

Whiner... my aZZZ...





sgrizzle

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