Obama's 08' Earmarks vs. McCains

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by akupetsky

^^Read this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122090791901411709.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

(it's the wallstreet journal, not huffington or dailykos).

Interesting. Obama has proposed $0 in earmarks this year and less than Palin did in the previous year.

This deserves being posted in full on this thread just like Gas posted in full a list from who knows where or when.

[RecycleMichael]

But akuptsky...telling a lie is so much more fun.

Ever since Reagan got elected, the republicans have thought that "acting" is more important than "doing". Read the script and don't question the truth.

Line please!

[waterboy]

Here's one. "Our Congressional delegation, God bless 'em", Palin.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=ieuA7nAOBXQ

From the NY Times:
http://www.nytimes.com/2005/11/17/politics/17spend.html

[waterboy]

The St. Petersburg Times was more generous to her but noted it was not a viable project when she finally withdrew support.

http://www.politifact.com/truth-o-meter/statements/675/

[iplaw]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by akupetsky

^^Read this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122090791901411709.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

(it's the wallstreet journal, not huffington or dailykos).

Interesting. Obama has proposed $0 in earmarks this year and less than Palin did in the previous year.

This deserves being posted in full on this thread just like Gas posted in full a list from who knows where or when.

Is it a miracle that Obama hasn't proposed an earmark this year?  I doubt it.  I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that he hasn't seen the floor of the senate in quite a while.  It's hard to propose bills when you're campagining.

If we could get every politician to campaign full time we'd be a hell of a lot better off...

[grahambino]

Its funny that she refers to an inhabited island in the State that she governs is "nowhere"...real classy.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

But akuptsky...telling a lie is so much more fun.

Ever since Reagan got elected, the republicans have thought that "acting" is more important than "doing". Read the script and don't question the truth.

Line please!

That's hilarious.  Obama must be lying.  He released the information on the earmarks I mentioned.  

I was waiting for the regular numb-skulls to post a claim that Obama made fewer requests or something, but I didn't expect them to stretch it to $0.

You guys crack me up.

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/

Oops!  Guess your talking-points are a bit off.
Perhaps it's a right-wing conspiracy?
Those pesky Repubs control the Senate website you know.

Waterboy, while I respect your opinion, I am tired of angry talking points, so I will continue to post traps.  Please do your research.  It will serve you better

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

Not spin.

TRUTH.

Obama is NUMBER EIGHTY ONE in a senate of 100 in earmarks.

If you and Gaspar were anything other than HYPOCRITS, you'd be railing against Inhofe's pork in the exact same way you're railing against a guy who is NUMBER EIGHTY ONE in a congress of 100 in use of earmarks... and you'd admit that Sarah Palin is being very disengenuous when she acts like her opposition to the "bridge to nowhere" was anything other than a parlor trick to KEEP THE MONEY while pretending to be a "maverick"...

The silence is deafening.

Bringing Inhofe into this as a straw man is an interesting subterfuge.  The original post was about Sen. McCain's earmarks vs. Sen. Obama's.

Last I checked, Sen Inhofe (R-Pork) is not running for President against Sen. Obama (D-Pork).

Inhofe seeking $146mm in earmarks blows Hometown's assertion that Inhofe doesn't try to bring home the bacon out of the water, doesn't it?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

Let me get things clear here, he made a post about earmarks, and you are accusing him of being a homosexual?  I hate what the political forum has become.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.

You drew that conclusion. I merely made an analogy to an activity that only includes people with a common purpose and a homogeneous makeup. If these guys want to have a small caucus of republican true believers then they should head out to Owasso and fulfill themselves. Its not discussion unless differing opinions are proffered.

If I had made the analogy that they were like herding animals baying at the moon would you think I had sunk to the level of calling them a pack of hyenas?

How do you know they do circlejerks in Owasso, Waterboy? [:O]

I'd not heard that before.  Is there a clubhouse or something?

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

But akuptsky...telling a lie is so much more fun.

Ever since Reagan got elected, the republicans have thought that "acting" is more important than "doing". Read the script and don't question the truth.

Line please!

Obama is a far better actor than Ronald Reagan ever was....

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by USRufnex

Not spin.

TRUTH.

Obama is NUMBER EIGHTY ONE in a senate of 100 in earmarks.

If you and Gaspar were anything other than HYPOCRITS, you'd be railing against Inhofe's pork in the exact same way you're railing against a guy who is NUMBER EIGHTY ONE in a congress of 100 in use of earmarks... and you'd admit that Sarah Palin is being very disengenuous when she acts like her opposition to the "bridge to nowhere" was anything other than a parlor trick to KEEP THE MONEY while pretending to be a "maverick"...

The silence is deafening.

Bringing Inhofe into this as a straw man is an interesting subterfuge.  The original post was about Sen. McCain's earmarks vs. Sen. Obama's.

Last I checked, Sen Inhofe (R-Pork) is not running for President against Sen. Obama (D-Pork).

Inhofe seeking $146mm in earmarks blows Hometown's assertion that Inhofe doesn't try to bring home the bacon out of the water, doesn't it?

I think if Ruf and Waterboy simply went to the US Senate website and used a calculator (I personally like the Casio model SL300VE) to ad up the earmarks for each senator, they would be able to pose far better arguments.  It's far more reliable than the fuzzy-math liberal sites.

But than again, they don't believe that earmarks are a bad thing, so I wonder why they are upset.  They should celebrate earmarks.  May the liberal candidate with the most earmarks win!

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by iplaw

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by akupetsky

^^Read this:

http://online.wsj.com/article/SB122090791901411709.html?mod=googlenews_wsj

(it's the wallstreet journal, not huffington or dailykos).

Interesting. Obama has proposed $0 in earmarks this year and less than Palin did in the previous year.

This deserves being posted in full on this thread just like Gas posted in full a list from who knows where or when.

Is it a miracle that Obama hasn't proposed an earmark this year?  I doubt it.  I wonder if it has anything to do with the fact that he hasn't seen the floor of the senate in quite a while.  It's hard to propose bills when you're campagining.

If we could get every politician to campaign full time we'd be a hell of a lot better off...

He's also notorious for not leaving much of a paper trail...

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

But akuptsky...telling a lie is so much more fun.

Ever since Reagan got elected, the republicans have thought that "acting" is more important than "doing". Read the script and don't question the truth.

Line please!

That's hilarious.  Obama must be lying.  He released the information on the earmarks I mentioned.  

I was waiting for the regular numb-skulls to post a claim that Obama made fewer requests or something, but I didn't expect them to stretch it to $0.

You guys crack me up.

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/

Oops!  Guess your talking-points are a bit off.
Perhaps it's a right-wing conspiracy?
Those pesky Repubs control the Senate website you know.

Waterboy, while I respect your opinion, I am tired of angry talking points, so I will continue to post traps.  Please do your research.  It will serve you better

You sound desperate Gas. I only posted the links which had quotes from the players. I only detected your traps and noted your propensity to set them. Don't lecture me till you cure your own hypocrisy.

[waterboy]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by YoungTulsan

Let me get things clear here, he made a post about earmarks, and you are accusing him of being a homosexual?  I hate what the political forum has become.  You should be ashamed of yourselves.

You drew that conclusion. I merely made an analogy to an activity that only includes people with a common purpose and a homogeneous makeup. If these guys want to have a small caucus of republican true believers then they should head out to Owasso and fulfill themselves. Its not discussion unless differing opinions are proffered.

If I had made the analogy that they were like herding animals baying at the moon would you think I had sunk to the level of calling them a pack of hyenas?

How do you know they do circlejerks in Owasso, Waterboy? [:O]

I'd not heard that before.  Is there a clubhouse or something?

Now there you go infering again. A caucus is not the same thing. But Cubs would know more about Owasso and its auto-erotic proclivities than I. The home of the Rams just came to mind because of his pithy insights.

Don't you think my remark about Coburn and McCain deserved more attention? Talk about a maverick.

[Gaspar]

quote:Originally posted by waterboy

quote:Originally posted by Gaspar

quote:Originally posted by RecycleMichael

But akuptsky...telling a lie is so much more fun.

Ever since Reagan got elected, the republicans have thought that "acting" is more important than "doing". Read the script and don't question the truth.

Line please!

That's hilarious.  Obama must be lying.  He released the information on the earmarks I mentioned.  

I was waiting for the regular numb-skulls to post a claim that Obama made fewer requests or something, but I didn't expect them to stretch it to $0.

You guys crack me up.

http://obama.senate.gov/press/070621-obama_announces_3/

Oops!  Guess your talking-points are a bit off.
Perhaps it's a right-wing conspiracy?
Those pesky Repubs control the Senate website you know.

Waterboy, while I respect your opinion, I am tired of angry talking points, so I will continue to post traps.  Please do your research.  It will serve you better

You sound desperate Gas. I only posted the links which had quotes from the players. I only detected your traps and noted your propensity to set them. Don't lecture me till you cure your own hypocrisy.

Thanks!  I'm going to read that for the rest of the day and try to figure it out.

Moving on. . .