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Obama's Interference in Iraq

Started by guido911, September 16, 2008, 10:29:13 AM

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guido911

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Originally posted by Friendly Bear

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Originally posted by guido911

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Originally posted by rwarn17588

Taheri doesn't have much credibility. More here:

http://tpmmuckraker.talkingpointsmemo.com/2008/09/noted_bamboozler_behind_latest.php



That's part of the reason why I included the second article. Obama's non-denial denial of Taheri's report is what is exceedingly curious, if not downright double speak. Here is the beginning of McCain's response to the issue:

http://corner.nationalreview.com/post/?q=YmRmMDAwNDc1ZTMxMDAzNGJlYjA5NWY1MzRlMGJmM2M=



Someone in the U.S. Department of Justice should remind Barack the Redeemer that ONLY the U.S. State Department speaks for the U.S. Government.

Or someone that the U.S. State Department has given EXPRESS rights to negotiate on behalf of the U.S. Government.

Barack could easily be accused of trying to make U.S. Government policy when he is NOT currently so enabled.

Does negotiating with a Foreign Prince constitute TREASON according to the U.S. Constitution?

Answer:  Yes, when contrary to the policy of the U.S. Government.




A lot of the blog chatter has focused on Obama's possible violation of the Logan Act, which provides:

Private correspondence with foreign governments.

Any citizen of the United States, wherever he may be, who, without authority of the United States, directly or indirectly commences or carries on any correspondence or intercourse with any foreign government or any officer or agent thereof, with intent to influence the measures or conduct of any foreign government or of any officer or agent thereof, in relation to any disputes or controversies with the United States, or to defeat the measures of the United States, shall be fined under this title or imprisoned not more than three years, or both.
This section shall not abridge the right of a citizen to apply himself, or his agent, to any foreign government, or the agents thereof, for redress of any injury which he may have sustained from such government or any of its agents or subjects.

18 U.S.C. ยง 953.

There appears to have been no prosecutions brought for a violation of this statute (although when Pelosi traveled to the middle east shortly after becoming speaker, there were rumblings of a possible violation).

I think the bigger story is Obama's continued belief that it is a foregone conclusion that he will be elected, which is plainly in doubt and that he would use the lives of our soldiers in Iraq for political gain.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Crash Daily

I think that Obama and Pelosi should definitely be brought up on charges. Do you think a Republican would get away with this crap if a Dim were in office? Hell, they want to reinstate the "fairness" doctrine to shut down Conservative talk radio. How would they react to this? We can't even go underground to AM radio without being attacked.

They want to silence all opposition and I believe that if they were in total power, they would do whatever it takes to do so, including imprisoning a Republican Speaker of the House or Presidential candidate if they saw any legal and viable option to do so. All Liberalism/Socialsm is, is "Communism Light". Well, that's the Democratic Party.

we vs us

My new name for Taheri? Curveball.

*rimshot*

Anyone?  Anyone?  Anyone at all?


Crash Daily

How about the Bloviator?

I still don't see any denial that Obama spoke with leaders of a foreign government, regarding foreign policy changes that illegally overstepped his bounds and go against the U.S. government. Illegal is illegal, blown out of proportion or not.

Any updates?

we vs us

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Originally posted by Crash Daily

How about the Bloviator?






No, no, dude.  Curveball.

Crash Daily

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Originally posted by we vs us

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Originally posted by Crash Daily

How about the Bloviator?



No, no, dude.  Curveball.



Wild Pitch, maybe???? I mean, so far it's starting to sound like he missed the plate. I tell you what, give me proof he was at least telling the truth that Obama was illegally meddling in foreign affairs and that's a definite "Curveball", even if he exagerate the extent to which Obama broke the law. If this was ALL just a bunch of made up BS, "Wild Pitch" it is. Maybe even the "Bloviating Wild Pitch". [:D]

Conan71

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Originally posted by Crash Daily

Tell that to your Grandma. In fact, please buy the tee-shirt. It really shows your level of class.

I hope you are joking.




"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Crash Daily

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Like i said, I hope you are joking. If not, please tell it to your grandma, then I'll lighten up. Deal?

This thing is kinda creepy, isn't it?

FOTD

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Originally posted by Crash Daily

Like i said, I hope you are joking. If not, please tell it to your grandma, then I'll lighten up. Deal?

This thing is kinda creepy, isn't it?


"Republicans believe every day is the Fourth of July, but the Democrats believe every day is April 15th."

Ronald Reagan






FYI, Nancy Reagan and her husband thought John McCain had no integrity, exhibited poor judgement, and was dishonest. Crash that quote.

Crash Daily

I'm not far off from feeling the same way About McCain and I still think he's 100 times better than Obama. Tells you what I think of that waste of good air doesn't it? I've said it before. With John, we get a pig with lipstick, but with Barrack we get candy coated sh*t. Once we're past the lipstick and candy, I'd rather eat bacon.

FOTD

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Originally posted by Crash Daily

I'm not far off from feeling the same way About McCain and I still think he's 100 times better than Obama. Tells you what I think of that waste of good air doesn't it? I've said it before. With John, we get a pig with lipstick, but with Barrack we get candy coated sh*t. Once we're past the lipstick and candy, I'd rather eat bacon.



So, you don't care if McBush's running mate is ilequiped for the job? And what makes you feel 100 times better about McCain? Based on character do you believe McCain desrves the job because of his soldier status? Do you care if our military continues the entrapment in Iraq over what's refered to here as "interference" in Iraq.

Candy coated? It's basic optimisim versus the pessimism displayed through that segment of republicans now dominated, and into the future, by evangelicals. They're the candy coaters.


But you go for the old white sick guy over the smart black guy.

Crash Daily

I'm not defending McCain. I just think that much less of Obama's character and all he stands for, not to mention HIS experience. I think that Palin is better equipped to lead this country than all three Senators combined, with John being the next best. Obama is a parrot with the least real world leadership experience of the three. If years in the Senate mean something and building coalitions mean something and actually sponsoring bills means something, at least john has that. Sarah is the best person of the options available and Obama is the worst. Obama is on the front of the Dem ticket. Nuff said.

USRufnex

I think much more of Obama and his character than the republican charade and all it pretends to stand for...

As opposed to cartoonish posts having no basis in fact...

sorry to interrupt your conservative koolaid party.  [:P]


Hoss

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Originally posted by USRufnex

I think much more of Obama and his character than the republican charade and all it pretends to stand for...

As opposed to cartoonish posts having no basis in fact...

sorry to interrupt your conservative koolaid party.  [:P]





Better watch it, some of the republican circles I run in get their panties in a bunch if you refer to them as 'koolaid drinkers'.

Haven't seen a lot of that around here (reaction to the phrase) but thought I'd let you know.

In case people start calling you 'libtard' or 'treehugger' or 'bleedingheart' or 'marxist' or 'leninist' or 'communist'....you get the picture, I think.

[:O]

FOTD

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Originally posted by Crash Daily

I'm not defending McCain. I just think that much less of Obama's character and all he stands for, not to mention HIS experience. I think that Palin is better equipped to lead this country than all three Senators combined, with John being the next best. Obama is a parrot with the least real world leadership experience of the three. If years in the Senate mean something and building coalitions mean something and actually sponsoring bills means something, at least john has that. Sarah is the best person of the options available and Obama is the worst. Obama is on the front of the Dem ticket. Nuff said.



How many concusions have you had?