Feeling Violated at TUL?

[Kashmir]

I forgot to add last week that this really weirds me out.  I'm all for flight safety and safe skies, but not so much for giving the security dude some jollies.  But at least we are still a country of choice:

Passengers can still choose to have physical pat-downs.

Hooray![xx(]

http://www.tulsaworld.com/business/article.aspx?subjectID=45&articleID=20081001_45_E1_Michae884565

[MDepr2007]

You can thank your local airport director for it. He volunteered to have Tulsa test it for TSA and then spent airport $ to get it wired just for you lucky Tulsans.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

You can thank your local airport director for it. He volunteered to have Tulsa test it for TSA and then spent airport $ to get it wired just for you lucky Tulsans.

We have a new high-tech alternative to be patted down, we're one of the first to get it and the cost of security equipment is highly subsidized by the feds so cost to TIA is near zero.

What are we complaining about again?

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by MDepr2007

You can thank your local airport director for it. He volunteered to have Tulsa test it for TSA and then spent airport $ to get it wired just for you lucky Tulsans.

We have a new high-tech alternative to be patted down, we're one of the first to get it and the cost of security equipment is highly subsidized by the feds so cost to TIA is near zero.

What are we complaining about again?

In true Tulsa fashion, we're complaining....wait for it now....just to complain.

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[Kashmir]

I'm just complaining about the creepy naked body image, just go to the World link and enlarge the pic...ewww.

My younger brother asked if they are hiring for that scanner person job, or as he called it "Single out the Hot Chicks to scan" job.  Perv.

[Gaspar]

I'm all for it.  Not because it has the ability to be more efficient, but because it has the potential to hold the screener's attention better.  "Hey look, naked people!"

Last year, we traveled to Houston to Houston on a leg of our vacation and on the way back, the screener in Houston (the one looking at the x-ray of our carry-on luggage.  Was. . .

ASLEEP!

Seriously, she was sitting right there on her stool in front of the monitor dozing off.  The two other screeners, aiding people through the line, on the front and rear of the metal detector were completely aware of the fact that she was nodding off, and seemed not to be concerned.  

I guess now that the screening machinery automatically alerts you to dangerous materials and shapes, you no longer need to be conscious to operate it.

[Ed W]

I think about this, and then I consider the cucumber-in-the-pants scene from This is Spinal Tap.  hmmm.....

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by Ed W

I think about this, and then I consider the cucumber-in-the-pants scene from This is Spinal Tap.  hmmm.....

As you move around the cucumber starts to get bruised then mushy...the cucumber juice then becomes a conversation starter.  I'd skip it.

[inteller]

I bet if you look at the cities they implemented this in, most of them are probably conservative bastions, far removed from ACLU strongholds.  I'm sure they found a bunch of regular "patriots" here in Tulsa who would do anything to help their country fight terrorism.

Let me guess, these are porbably made by Diebold.  So in one fell swoop they can scan you for bombs, withdraw all the cash out of your bank account, and change your vote to republican.

[MDepr2007]

hmm and we've seen a need for this why?
Much easier to take a plane down a few miles from the airport with a rocket launcher, while setting in an apartment complex. Inbetween robbing someone of course as you'll have plenty of time

[TheArtist]

Great, I almost always get double checked or my luggage checked. Will we be allowed to "fluff and adjust" before we get our pic taken? [] If one is to be violated, might as well look ones best.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by inteller

I bet if you look at the cities they implemented this in, most of them are probably conservative bastions, far removed from ACLU strongholds.  I'm sure they found a bunch of regular "patriots" here in Tulsa who would do anything to help their country fight terrorism.

Let me guess, these are porbably made by Diebold.  So in one fell swoop they can scan you for bombs, withdraw all the cash out of your bank account, and change your vote to republican.

Hmm..I must say, TSA should be commended for one thing. They made me agree with inteller! []

Seriously, though, this is one of the reasons why I don't fly anymore. Before and just after 9/11 (before they went truly ape**** after Richard Reid) I was platinum with AA. Now I fly less than 3k a year commercially. I don't feel the need to be essentially strip searched. (or patted down regularly, for that matter)

Between the ridiculous security theater 'take off your shoes,' 'no don't take off your shoes if you use our bomb sniffing machine,' 'no take your shoes off and let us xray them even though the bomb sniffing machine can actually sniff bombs, unlike the xray machine,' and on and on, the service cutbacks, and everything else, I just don't enjoy it so much anymore.

Maybe I'm still pissed about them taking my crimping tool away in Feb '02 or whenever it was. I got the cops called on me at DFW for daring question the screener and asking for the ground security coordinator, who it turned out was drunk at like 10 in the morning. The screener claimed I had threatened her. Thankfully, my business associate was around to dispute her interpretation of events.

It turned out the (classified, but I got to see in anyway!) handbook listed 'tools' as forbidden, and went on to specify things like hammers, saws, shears, and other heavy or sharp items. I guess I should have called it a 'crimper.' I was stupid and called it a crimping tool.

That was before they started doing the super sekrit sekurity search.

The whole thing is corporate welfare for the companies making metal detectors, x ray machines, and other ridiculously expensive contraptions, now that we have to have 5 times as many of the cheap things and buy a few new things that are five times as expensive for every airport and a budget grab within the government.

And that part can't even be blamed on Bush..just his crony Congress.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by nathanm

quote:Originally posted by inteller

I bet if you look at the cities they implemented this in, most of them are probably conservative bastions, far removed from ACLU strongholds.  I'm sure they found a bunch of regular "patriots" here in Tulsa who would do anything to help their country fight terrorism.

Let me guess, these are porbably made by Diebold.  So in one fell swoop they can scan you for bombs, withdraw all the cash out of your bank account, and change your vote to republican.

Hmm..I must say, TSA should be commended for one thing. They made me agree with inteller! []

Seriously, though, this is one of the reasons why I don't fly anymore. Before and just after 9/11 (before they went truly ape**** after Richard Reid) I was platinum with AA. Now I fly less than 3k a year commercially. I don't feel the need to be essentially strip searched. (or patted down regularly, for that matter)

Between the ridiculous security theater 'take off your shoes,' 'no don't take off your shoes if you use our bomb sniffing machine,' 'no take your shoes off and let us xray them even though the bomb sniffing machine can actually sniff bombs, unlike the xray machine,' and on and on, the service cutbacks, and everything else, I just don't enjoy it so much anymore.

Maybe I'm still pissed about them taking my crimping tool away in Feb '02 or whenever it was. I got the cops called on me at DFW for daring question the screener and asking for the ground security coordinator, who it turned out was drunk at like 10 in the morning. The screener claimed I had threatened her. Thankfully, my business associate was around to dispute her interpretation of events.

It turned out the (classified, but I got to see in anyway!) handbook listed 'tools' as forbidden, and went on to specify things like hammers, saws, shears, and other heavy or sharp items. I guess I should have called it a 'crimper.' I was stupid and called it a crimping tool.

That was before they started doing the super sekrit sekurity search.

The whole thing is corporate welfare for the companies making metal detectors, x ray machines, and other ridiculously expensive contraptions, now that we have to have 5 times as many of the cheap things and buy a few new things that are five times as expensive for every airport and a budget grab within the government.

And that part can't even be blamed on Bush..just his crony Congress.

exaggeration somewhat?? It isn't as bad as you make it seem.  You take off your shoes, belt, empty pockets, and go through.  It takes all of 2 minutes.  I am glad you are no longer flying.  I have been stuck behind people like you at Security who do nothing but *****, complain and moan about "why do I have to do this, that and this.  This is America."  Let me be the first to say "Thank You" for not flying anymore so I can get through security that much quicker!!

[sgrizzle]

I travel with a laptop and get through in around a minute unless I'm waiting behind the old lady arguing about her 64oz bottle of Suave or something like that.

[Kashmir]

I went through with 2 small kids alone and they essentially waved me through the "family" line at DFW, sippy cups, water bottle and all.

I think they just wanted me outta there!