Teen Feels Snared In Sex Offender Law - Ricky

[JessnT]

quote:Originally posted by patric

quote:Originally posted by zstyles

I guess we are suppose to feel sorry for him??

Please restrain your compassion... [B)]

It's a sure sign of a broken system when the parties involved meet and settle their differences, yet the local DA decides to use it to advance his career.
I doubt this kid will ever trust a cop again, either.

I totally agree with you.
Both children are going to be messed up possibly for life!  We try so hard to teach them to be careful, warn them about the tricks girls will play on guys and vice versa.  Now we have to tell our children if they're going to insist upon pre-marital sex, they must make a quick run to the nearest police division and ask someone to validate a driver's license??
Sad for both families.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Wilbur

Your complaints need to go to your state representatives, but imagine the problems of trying to put exceptions into the law.

1.  I swear I thought she was 18!

2.  She told me she was 18!

3.  I'm only 19 and she told me she was over age!

What exceptions work for one person must work for everyone.

While it's a bummer for that dude, he was bangin' a 13-year old!  Come on.  Put yourself in her parent's place.  I doubt any of you dads would be saying 'well, my daughter said she was 18.'

Her parents didn't have as much of a problem with it as you do.

[MSLGWCEO]

I believe the real problem here is painting everyone with the pedophile/predator brush as these laws do. Yes, Ricky was 16, the girl lied and was in an establishment that was for 16 to 20 year olds. Both were wrong but a life time sentence of registering is totally uncalled for. We need to revamp these laws by writing to our state law makers and ask them to make sense out of the mess that they have created. The laws on the books actually endanger the very children they were suppose to protect. The laws, to put it mildly are INSANE.
www.cfcoklahoma.org

[MSLGWCEO]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


That is too bad that the teen feels snared.

Maybe he should have invested in a better attorney.

His mother, Mary went totally blind two weeks prior to his arrest. They had no money for an attorney. His public defender was insistent on Ricky taking a plea. What kind of choice is that!!

[TeeDub]

quote:Originally posted by MSLGWCEO



His mother, Mary went totally blind two weeks prior to his arrest. They had no money for an attorney. His public defender was insistent on Ricky taking a plea. What kind of choice is that!!

I guess having your mother go blind still isn't an excuse to sneak off and start having sex with 13 year olds.  

The good thing is he will have plenty of years to wonder if it was really worth it.

[MSLGWCEO]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub

quote:Originally posted by MSLGWCEO



His mother, Mary went totally blind two weeks prior to his arrest. They had no money for an attorney. His public defender was insistent on Ricky taking a plea. What kind of choice is that!!

I guess having your mother go blind still isn't an excuse to sneak off and start having sex with 13 year olds.  

The good thing is he will have plenty of years to wonder if it was really worth it.

No one said that was an excuse. His record has been expunged, which means there is no record. But Oklahoma has him on TIER III as an aggravated sex offender for consensual sex. The girl admittedly lied concerning her age, and she was in an establishment where the entrance minimum was 16. Good grief. Can't you read? Why do you inject such nonsense??

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by MSLGWCEO

Can't you read? Why do you inject such nonsense??

There are people who are so squicked by kids having sex that they can't think straight. Maybe it's because they think there's a child molester hiding behind every bush.

Pretty much the same thing as parents who refuse to let their kids go anywhere alone. They see grave danger where statistically there is little.

[TeeDub]

quote:Originally posted by MSLGWCEO

Can't you read? Why do you inject such nonsense??

Apparently you confuse my complete and total lack of sympathy for nonsense.  

The fact is he had sex with a 13 year old and her parents had enough of a problem with it to pursue charges with the DA.  (Check number one, did the family care enough to do something.) Then, as another professional with no sympathy, the DA decided to pursue charges.  (Check number two as to whether this should have proceeded.)  As far as I am concerned, due diligence was followed and he deserves what he got.   Whether or not the criminal feels that the punishment was deserved is moot.

You are right in your assumption that I don't have a daughter, but I do have a son.  I hope I can raise him better than to sleep with a 13 year old.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by TeeDub


You are right in your assumption that I don't have a daughter, but I do have a son.  I hope I can raise him better than to sleep with a 13 year old.

I hope nobody ever lies to him about their age.

(And you apparently can't read)

quote:
Ricky's mother, who has recently gone blind, met with the girl's parents.
"They said, look, we know she lied, we don't want to press charges, we just want Ricky to say away from her and I said okay," said Ricky's mom, Mary.

[JessnT]

quote:



You are right in your assumption that I don't have a daughter, but I do have a son.  I hope I can raise him better than to sleep with a 13 year old.

You better do more than hope!  You best find an expert to teach him how to identify a manipulative underage female, if he comes across one, or tell him to do like I mentioned earlier, have a cop run her license to see if she's who she says she is!  The issue is that the boy had no clue the girl was 13!!  That is exactly what your son might encounter.  If you think otherwise, I'd say you are living in a bubble.  I have a son as well and I have learned a valuable lesson from this situation.

[MSLGWCEO]

There are people who are so squicked by kids having sex that they can't think straight. Maybe it's because they think there's a child molester hiding behind every bush.

Pretty much the same thing as parents who refuse to let their kids go anywhere alone. They see grave danger where statistically there is little.
[/quote]

The truth of the matter is, that 98% of all sex offenses are committed by family members and friends of the family. The chances of your child being molested by someone down the street are very remote. but the chance of them being molested by a family member or someone known by the family are great.
Prevention through education is the real KEY! Good touch bad touch can go a long ways in preventing child sexual abuse.
Here is an article entitled "Incest - A Family Tragedy. Listen to the Blogtalkradio interview with Edward Blackhoff who filmed the documentary which won 12 prestegious awards.
http://cfcoklahoma.org/index.php?option=com_content&view=article&id=80:incest-a-family-tragedy&catid=38:news-articles&Itemid=80

[MSLGWCEO]

For those who will, please sign Ricky's petition

http://rickyslife.com/

I know Mary and Ricky personally. She being blind is raising two children on $550.00 a month and will soon have to move as they cannot even pay the rent. If you feel led, please donate at the site

[sauerkraut]

As was mentioned in some of the above posts, going "potty" in a back alleyway can get you hard time and a sex offender rap. The laws go overboard in many cases. Columbus, Ohio changed the law 10 years ago so someone using a alley as a potty won't get a sex offender rap, but in many other places it still is a sex offender rap. It's totally nuts. As per this story a 13 year old girl normally does look much younger than someone 16 or 17. I wonder if the boy really believed she was 16.  I think alot of guns in school laws go overboard too, kids who point a finger as a gun for a joke get kicked out of school. Long ago when I was in 2nd grade boys took their dads hunting rifles to school to use in show & tell. The gun sat on the coat rack all day no big deal. Today you could not do that.

[Wilbur]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

As was mentioned in some of the above posts, going "potty" in a back alleyway can get you hard time and a sex offender rap. The laws go overboard in many cases. Columbus, Ohio changed the law 10 years ago so someone using a alley as a potty won't get a sex offender rap, but in many other places it still is a sex offender rap. It's totally nuts. As per this story a 13 year old girl normally does look much younger than someone 16 or 17. I wonder if the boy really believed she was 16.  I think alot of guns in school laws go overboard too, kids who point a finger as a gun for a joke get kicked out of school. Long ago when I was in 2nd grade boys took their dads hunting rifles to school to use in show & tell. The gun sat on the coat rack all day no big deal. Today you could not do that.

"Going potty" in a back ally is a misdemeanor crime at both the state level and local level:

Tulsa ordinance Title 27 Section 500
State Statute Title 21 Chapter 2 Section 22

neither of which are on the list of crimes required to register as a sex offender.

In Tulsa, you are normally issued a citation with a mandatory court date, which usually results in a fine.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

As per this story a 13 year old girl normally does look much younger than someone 16 or 17.

Usually, but by no means always. In school I personally knew more than one 13 year old who looked 16 and later more than one 16 year old that looked 13. (I also knew a couple of 17 year olds that could have passed for 21 easily)