Bush Commutes Sentences of Border Agents

[guido911]

Compean and Ramos will be released, although their convictions will remain.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95QC5OO0&show_article=1

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Compean and Ramos will be released, although their convictions will remain.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95QC5OO0&show_article=1

This is something I am actually in total agreement of.  Never should have gone to trial.

[mr.jaynes]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Compean and Ramos will be released, although their convictions will remain.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95QC5OO0&show_article=1

This is something I am actually in total agreement of.  Never should have gone to trial.

Amen to that. Even so, I'd like to see their convictions overturned, and their prosecutor disbarred.

[deinstein]

Nice call, Bush.

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Compean and Ramos will be released, although their convictions will remain.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95QC5OO0&show_article=1

This is something I am actually in total agreement of.  Never should have gone to trial.

Amen to that. Even so, I'd like to see their convictions overturned, and their prosecutor disbarred.

I'd like to see their convictions overturned, and their prosecutor disbarred, THEN CASTRATED.

fify.

[TulsaFan-inTexas]

Fantastic news. Congrats to their families!

[grahambino]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by mr.jaynes

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Compean and Ramos will be released, although their convictions will remain.

http://www.breitbart.com/article.php?id=D95QC5OO0&show_article=1

This is something I am actually in total agreement of.  Never should have gone to trial.

Amen to that. Even so, I'd like to see their convictions overturned, and their prosecutor disbarred.

I'd like to see their convictions overturned, and their prosecutor disbarred, THEN CASTRATED.

fify.

why stop there?  STONE HIM!  NOW THAT'S WHAT I CALL JUSTICE!!!!!!  Isn't that right, Ahmed?

[nsugrad_05]

Why should the convictions be overturned. Do you even know the facts of the case?

They shot an unarmed person. I dont care if it is a drug dealer, illegal alien or Ronald Mcdonald they shot him. Then they tried to cover it up. Several other agents testified seeing them picking up shell casings at the scene, then lying in their official reports. I hope you dont agree that this is behavior that should be tolerated or condoned by law enforcement, no less.

A little reading goes a long way. Taking your information from Hannity, Rush, and Fake News is not such a good idea.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by nsugrad_05

Why should the convictions be overturned. Do you even know the facts of the case?

They shot an unarmed person. I dont care if it is a drug dealer, illegal alien or Ronald Mcdonald they shot him. Then they tried to cover it up. Several other agents testified seeing them picking up shell casings at the scene, then lying in their official reports. I hope you dont agree that this is behavior that should be tolerated or condoned by law enforcement, no less.

A little reading goes a long way. Taking your information from Hannity, Rush, and Fake News is not such a good idea.

Wow, someone is a little close minded.  Go ahead and spin this into what you want...

"White House officials said Bush didn't pardon the men for their crimes, but commuted their sentences because he believed they were excessive and that they had already suffered the loss of their jobs, freedom and reputations."

[rwarn17588]

Yeah. They're going to have the felony convictions on their records for the rest of their lives. It's not like they're going to be cops or border patrol agents anymore.

[patric]

Ill take a shot:

quote:Originally posted by TUalum0982

"White House officials said Bush didn't pardon the men for their crimes, but commuted their sentences because he believed they were excessive and that they had already suffered the loss of their jobs, freedom and reputations."

Im betting there are a lot on death row that would like similar consideration.

[TUalum0982]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Ill take a shot:

quote:Originally posted by TUalum0982

"White House officials said Bush didn't pardon the men for their crimes, but commuted their sentences because he believed they were excessive and that they had already suffered the loss of their jobs, freedom and reputations."

Im betting there are a lot on death row that would like similar consideration.

so now we are comparing convicted killers to border patrol agent's who felt their lives were in danger??  Exactly what does a person who kills someone for drugs, or robbery have in common with these two border patrol agents?  Have you ever been in law enforcement? Have you ever felt your live was endangered?

[Neptune]

quote:Originally posted by TUalum0982

They shot an unarmed person. I dont care if it is a drug dealer, illegal alien or Ronald Mcdonald they shot him.

I think anyone would deserve a medal for shooting Ronald McDonald.  

Don't take that as inspiration rwarn, I don't have any stray medals laying around.

[patric]

quote:Originally posted by TUalum0982

so now we are comparing convicted killers to border patrol agent's who felt their lives were in danger??  Exactly what does a person who kills someone for drugs, or robbery have in common with these two border patrol agents?  Have you ever been in law enforcement? Have you ever felt your live was endangered?

You dont think there are convicted killers in prison who did so because they felt their lives were in danger?

By trying to cover up the crime, they knew they were on the wrong side of the law.

Why apply a softer standard to an offender simply because they committed a crime while wearing a badge?

[Neptune]

quote:Originally posted by patric

Why apply a softer standard to an offender simply because they committed a crime while wearing a badge?

Because a few particular people agree with the outcome of the incident.

It's kind of like when Guido all but said on another thread, "To be a terrorist you have to be a shade of brown."  Who started this thread?

On the other hand, I'm not too learned on this particular case, but what I'm aware of, makes me feel like I should agree with the release.  The Federal gov't has chosen not to seal the borders, the Federal gov't has chosen not to significantly step up border enforcement since 911, and then the Federal gov't has chosen to hamstring remaining border patrol officers with "grey area" laws/rules/regs.  If the border does not have any laws, so be it.  Seal the border, enforce the laws, set up whatever structure you want to deal with immigrants: or don't.