Broadcast Digital TV

[sauerkraut]

quote:Originally posted by swake

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

What good is a June 12th date if many stations are changing over Feb. 17th? The FCC should require all stations keep analog to June 12th.. The TV makers should of put in digital tuners back in 1996 when they first knew that digital TV was coming, the same goes for the VCR's. The government only required digital tuners be put in TV sets around 2003 or so and only for the big TV sets.[xx(]

you still have a VCR?

Yep I have 3 VCR's, one is from 1984 and it still works.

[sauerkraut]

Hey gang, I was wondering since those new VCR's have no tuners in them, will they work  with getting a signal thru a converter box, or do they only work with cable TV? The cartons the new VCR's come in say they have no tuners and require a in-line feed to record, it says nothing about taking a signal from a digital converter box? Just wondering.

[nathanm]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Europe has "PAL" TV..

Most of Europe is getting rid of analog TV as we speak. They've had SD digital TV for years now. Not so much on the over-the-air HD, though.

[swake]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Hey gang, I was wondering since those new VCR's have no tuners in them, will they work  with getting a signal thru a converter box, or do they only work with cable TV? The cartons the new VCR's come in say they have no tuners and require a in-line feed to record, it says nothing about taking a signal from a digital converter box? Just wondering.

New VCRs? Do they really still manufacture VCRs?

I think you mean DVR.

[Neptune]

Just make sure your TV gets no where near your 8-track, or your Victrola.  

Supposedly it'll cause a rip in the fabric of space-time.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Hey gang, I was wondering since those new VCR's have no tuners in them, will they work  with getting a signal thru a converter box, or do they only work with cable TV? The cartons the new VCR's come in say they have no tuners and require a in-line feed to record, it says nothing about taking a signal from a digital converter box? Just wondering.

Ignore all the smarmy, smug comments from other posters.  Yes, your old VCR will work fine with the digital converter boxes, as the box output is standard 480 line analog, That means that to record a program on a timer, you have to leave the converter box on and tuned in to the station you want to record.  Set your VCR timer for the proper time but to record "line in" rather than an analog station, and connect your converter box to the VCR via composite line in cables.  The VCR will come on and record the program being fed from the converter box via the cables.  The capability lost is to record shows over more than one channel without having to manually reset the converter box to the proper station, but that is not a hassle for me.

I have done this many times since I started using digital converter boxes about 10 months ago, mostly to record classic old sitcoms over the new digital channels I now receive.  Just make sure to check your converter box for a "power off" function and make sure this is turned off or set so the box does not automatically turn off before the program starts to record.  I learned this the hard way.  Ain't new technology "advancements" wonderful?

Oh Neptune, as I sit here typing, I am listening to the original 1975 Broadway cast vinyl album of "Chicago" via my turntable.  It never sounded more wonderful.  Not to mention the cover artwork and all that has been lost to "progress."

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Hey gang, I was wondering since those new VCR's have no tuners in them, will they work  with getting a signal thru a converter box, or do they only work with cable TV? The cartons the new VCR's come in say they have no tuners and require a in-line feed to record, it says nothing about taking a signal from a digital converter box? Just wondering.

Ignore all the smarmy, smug comments from other posters.  Yes, your old VCR will work fine with the digital converter boxes, as the box output is standard 480 line analog, That means that to record a program on a timer, you have to leave the converter box on and tuned in to the station you want to record.  Set your VCR timer for the proper time but to record "line in" rather than an analog station, and connect your converter box to the VCR via composite line in cables.  The VCR will come on and record the program being fed from the converter box via the cables.  The capability lost is to record shows over more than one channel without having to manually reset the converter box to the proper station, but that is not a hassle for me.

I have done this many times since I started using digital converter boxes about 10 months ago, mostly to record classic old sitcoms over the new digital channels I now receive.  Just make sure to check your converter box for a "power off" function and make sure this is turned off or set so the box does not automatically turn off before the program starts to record.  I learned this the hard way.  Ain't new technology "advancements" wonderful?

Oh Neptune, as I sit here typing, I am listening to the original 1975 Broadway cast vinyl album of "Chicago" via my turntable.  It never sounded more wonderful.  Not to mention the cover artwork and all that has been lost to "progress."

My reply to this post will arrive in the mail in 2-3 business days.

[Steve]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Steve

quote:Originally posted by sauerkraut

Hey gang, I was wondering since those new VCR's have no tuners in them, will they work  with getting a signal thru a converter box, or do they only work with cable TV? The cartons the new VCR's come in say they have no tuners and require a in-line feed to record, it says nothing about taking a signal from a digital converter box? Just wondering.

Ignore all the smarmy, smug comments from other posters.  Yes, your old VCR will work fine with the digital converter boxes, as the box output is standard 480 line analog, That means that to record a program on a timer, you have to leave the converter box on and tuned in to the station you want to record.  Set your VCR timer for the proper time but to record "line in" rather than an analog station, and connect your converter box to the VCR via composite line in cables.  The VCR will come on and record the program being fed from the converter box via the cables.  The capability lost is to record shows over more than one channel without having to manually reset the converter box to the proper station, but that is not a hassle for me.

I have done this many times since I started using digital converter boxes about 10 months ago, mostly to record classic old sitcoms over the new digital channels I now receive.  Just make sure to check your converter box for a "power off" function and make sure this is turned off or set so the box does not automatically turn off before the program starts to record.  I learned this the hard way.  Ain't new technology "advancements" wonderful?

Oh Neptune, as I sit here typing, I am listening to the original 1975 Broadway cast vinyl album of "Chicago" via my turntable.  It never sounded more wonderful.  Not to mention the cover artwork and all that has been lost to "progress."

My reply to this post will arrive in the mail in 2-3 business days.

Then your reply is not worth the wait.  Digital communication has made so much ephemeral and lost.  Pity for true artistry, but not so bad for crap.

[sgrizzle]

quote:Originally posted by Steve

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle


My reply to this post will arrive in the mail in 2-3 business days.

Then your reply is not worth the wait.  Digital communication has made so much ephemeral and lost.  Pity for true artistry, but not so bad for crap.

So wait, new technologies are good? Let me hang up my party line phone and try to understand this. Seems like I was pretty sure you've been complaining about every new technology made including cell phones, DVR's, etc. Strangely enough, all this complaining occurs on the internet.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle

quote:Originally posted by Steve

quote:Originally posted by sgrizzle


My reply to this post will arrive in the mail in 2-3 business days.

Then your reply is not worth the wait.  Digital communication has made so much ephemeral and lost.  Pity for true artistry, but not so bad for crap.

So wait, new technologies are good? Let me hang up my party line phone and try to understand this. Seems like I was pretty sure you've been complaining about every new technology made including cell phones, DVR's, etc. Strangely enough, all this complaining occurs on the internet.

Yeah, you know, that series of tubes....

[sauerkraut]

Thanks for the info. about the VCR hook up- In Columbus, Ohio we lost two TV stations.. channel 28 & channel 53 on Feb. 17th went digital. Channel 53's screen says "If you can see this your TV is not DTV- you need to convert" and Channel 28 is running a show over & over about how to install a converter box and scan in the TV stations, They do it in English & in Spanish switching back & forth. The rest of our TV stations will keep beaming analog until June. The local newspaper had a story about other nations that went digital and they say the big mistake we did in the USA was to have congress end analog in day. The other nations did the change over slowly a few stations at a time. Places like Norway just get cable TV.

[Neptune]

I made this:

http://www.metacafe.com/watch/762088/coat_hanger_hdtv_antenna_better_than_store_bought_amazing/

Works great.  Point it to Coweta and it works great.  My SNR is good (my TV has the AT&T 5 bar system; major station never get less than 4 using this).

Took me 20 minutes to build.

Thinking about building this.

Do you pick up Channel 8 as well?  Or do you have to direct the antennae to pick it up?

[Hoss]

Thinking about building this.

Do you pick up Channel 8 as well?  Or do you have to direct the antennae to pick it up?

You have to direct the antenna anyway towards the SE (Coweta), but as that shows, it won't pick up VHF real well.  Add another row at the top and use a V shape to it, and it works for Channel 8.

[DolfanBob]

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by Steve</i>

<blockquote id="quote"><font size="1" face="Verdana" id="quote">quote:<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"><i>Originally posted by sauerkraut</i>

Hey gang, I was wondering since those new VCR's have no tuners in them, will they work  with getting a signal thru a converter box, or do they only work with cable TV? The cartons the new VCR's come in say they have no tuners and require a in-line feed to record, it says nothing about taking a signal from a digital converter box? Just wondering.
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

Ignore all the smarmy, smug comments from other posters.  Yes, your old VCR will work fine with the digital converter boxes, as the box output is standard 480 line analog, That means that to record a program on a timer, you have to leave the converter box on and tuned in to the station you want to record.  Set your VCR timer for the proper time but to record "line in" rather than an analog station, and connect your converter box to the VCR via composite line in cables.  The VCR will come on and record the program being fed from the converter box via the cables.  The capability lost is to record shows over more than one channel without having to manually reset the converter box to the proper station, but that is not a hassle for me.

I have done this many times since I started using digital converter boxes about 10 months ago, mostly to record classic old sitcoms over the new digital channels I now receive.  Just make sure to check your converter box for a "power off" function and make sure this is turned off or set so the box does not automatically turn off before the program starts to record.  I learned this the hard way.  Ain't new technology "advancements" wonderful?

Oh Neptune, as I sit here typing, I am listening to the original 1975 Broadway cast vinyl album of "Chicago" via my turntable.  It never sounded more wonderful.  Not to mention the cover artwork and all that has been lost to "progress."
<hr height="1" noshade id="quote"></blockquote id="quote"></font id="quote">

My reply to this post will arrive in the mail in 2-3 business days.

2-3 business day's seems blazing fast compared to that wonderful Pony Express thing. Not quite as good as the Telegraph or morris code.
Still much better than figuring out those darn smoke signals.
Ahh progress at it's best.

[jadenn]

Anyone using a digital tuner?  Are you using a regular or digital antennae?  If so, what kind of (or how many) channels you getting?  Problems, complaints?

Hi! I've been using a regular tv antenna and it's working great! So far, no problem at all and all the channels are very clear. I think, it's just a matter of choosing the best antenna for your location. And it would be helpful if you will choose one with provided detailed instruction.