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Started by cannon_fodder, February 20, 2009, 10:01:34 AM

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patric

#135
She's a robot, sent to destroy our freedoms...
The video ends when a TSA goon orders the photographer to stop (which he lacked authority to do).

Banovac said she chose to wear her underwear because of an unpleasant experience two weeks ago at airport security. She is typically hand-searched at airports because she uses a wheelchair, she said, and she felt violated by the more invasive searches employed at airports recently.
"If it happened anywhere else, it would have been sexual assault."
Banovac said she was trying to board a flight to Phoenix on Tuesday when she was pulled aside at security for a more thorough search.
She said TSA employees told her equipment detected traces of nitrates, which are used in bombs, on her clothing and luggage. She said a TSA supervisor told her to leave the airport and "come back tomorrow" after more than an hour of hand searches and questioning.




"git 'yer camera up... off."

"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

shadows

The church has begun to recognize the gap between the dinosaurs and those who post of this board was accelerated by the radiation of which we are bombarded with each day from the sun light.  This evolution did not happen over night.   The scanning is no question subjecting those  wanting to board the plane to many times that of the radiation from the sunlight.  

It is assumed the rungs of the genetic spiral could be altered to in the future the offspring's of our species could be changed change to where we would become another species of monsters.  As one should be aware there was many species of dinosaurs.

The scanners subject the scanned to many times radation of our sun.  If one need proof just stand before a screen in the sunlight and look for a picture.  
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

custosnox

Quote from: shadows on December 01, 2010, 06:06:10 PM
The church has begun to recognize the gap between the dinosaurs and those who post of this board was accelerated by the radiation of which we are bombarded with each day from the sun light.  This evolution did not happen over night.   The scanning is no question subjecting those  wanting to board the plane to many times that of the radiation from the sunlight. 

It is assumed the rungs of the genetic spiral could be altered to in the future the offspring’s of our species could be changed change to where we would become another species of monsters.  As one should be aware there was many species of dinosaurs.

The scanners subject the scanned to many times radation of our sun.  If one need proof just stand before a screen in the sunlight and look for a picture.   

Actually, according to the experts, these machines have the same level of radiation as three minutes of high altitude of flight.  So I wouldn't exactly call thatmany times radiation of our sun.  If you claim otherwise, without proof or even the knowledge of scientists to fall back on, it is nothing more than speculation. 

patric

Quote from: custosnox on December 01, 2010, 08:11:49 PM
Actually, according to the experts, these machines have the same level of radiation as three minutes of high altitude of flight.

By citing a best-case scenario, and ignoring that there is more than one type of scanner, they are engaging in a bit of a deception.

"Radiation Experts Concerned With TSA Airport Security Scanners"
A commentary on the safety of new full-body scanners and why experts disagree with the government
http://health.usnews.com/health-news/family-health/cancer/articles/2010/11/18/radiation-experts-concerned-with-tsa-airport-security-scanners.html


http://www.techdirt.com/articles/20101129/01274612033/molecular-biologist-highlights-serious-safety-concerns-over-tsa-scanners.shtml
With respect to errors in the safety reports and/or misleading information about them, the statement that one scan is equivalent to 2-3 minutes of your flight is VERY misleading. Most cosmic radiation is composed of high energy particles that passes right through our body and the plane itself without being absorbed. The spectrum that is dangerous is known as ionizing radiation and most of that is absorbed by the hull of the airplane. So relating non-absorbing cosmic radiation to tissue absorbing man-made radiation is simply misleading and wrong. Of course these are related and there is over-lap, but we have to compare apples to apples.

Furthermore, when making this comparison, the TSA and FDA are calculating that the dose is absorbed throughout the body. According the simulations performed by NIST, the relative absorption of the radiation is ~20-35-fold higher in the skin, breast, testes and thymus than the brain, or 7-12-fold higher than bone marrow. So a total body dose is misleading, because there is differential absorption in some tissues. Of particular concern is radiation exposure to the testes, which could result in infertility or birth defects, and breasts for women who might carry a BRCA1 or BRCA2 mutation.


"This is a large experiment on a large population," said Bouchaib Rabbani, chief medical radiation physicist at Pomona Valley Hospital Medical Center's Robert and Beverly Lewis Family Cancer Care Center. He is also the Pomona hospital's radiation safety officer.
"Nobody can say with certainty that it will have an effect. Nobody can say with certainty that it won't have an effect," he said. "We really won't know until many years later. The biological effects might be different for different groups.  http://www.redlandsdailyfacts.com/sanbernardinocounty/ci_16729193
"Tulsa will lay off police and firemen before we will cut back on unnecessarily wasteful streetlights."  -- March 18, 2009 TulsaNow Forum

shadows

#139
 

ISN'T THERE A SIGN SAYING "NUDIST TAKE THE FAR LANE AND  AND SAVS TIME'"
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

guido911

Quote from: shadows on December 02, 2010, 09:34:37 PM


ISN'T THERE A SIGN SAYING "NUDIST TAKE THE FAR LANE AND  AND SAVS TIME'"

I cannot believe you have not been flamed yet by the chief poster policeman.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

Quote from: guido911 on December 03, 2010, 09:28:15 AM
I cannot believe you have not been flamed yet by the chief poster policeman.

Why?  Are you offended by the San Antonio Vegetarian Society?

http://home.roadrunner.com/~savstx/

I'm sure they're lovely people.

guido911

Quote from: Townsend on December 03, 2010, 09:35:56 AM
Why?  Are you offended by the San Antonio Vegetarian Society?

http://home.roadrunner.com/~savstx/

I'm sure they're lovely people.

Thanks for the laugh.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

shadows

Quote from: guido911 on December 03, 2010, 09:28:15 AM
I cannot believe you have not been flamed yet by the chief poster policeman.
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The post by Patric contains all the information on the speculation as we are dealing with changes in the species in 100 to 2000 years.  The species of man as we know it has existed only as a flash in the eons of time.  This planet we occupy contain the ruins of many civilizations that we search to find their failures today. What Patric points out is there is a time table of what we cannot point out but  in our shallow minds we are assuming the powers of our creator.   That in the future we could and may assume the role of a creator or God.  As we speculate if the radiation will effect the genes there is not a living person today who will see or be part of this possible remaking of this species.

Then to if we modify the genetic spiral our arms may be replaced by wings and then there would be no need for scanning.

But look at the government employees who would loose their jobs.         

Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.

RecycleMichael

Quote from: shadows on December 04, 2010, 08:55:58 PM
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...in our shallow minds we are assuming the powers of our creator. That in the future we could and may assume the role of a creator or God. 

You mortals just crack me up.
Power is nothing till you use it.

shadows

Quote from: RecycleMichael on December 04, 2010, 10:21:49 PM
You mortals just crack me up.
Gee! you are right, who needs fancy schooling when one can purchase over the internet, diplomas from schools that are no longer in business for $25,00 and up.  I have never heard of a job seeker being ask to show their diploma.  In the today's world the only thing needed is a government job with its birth to grave perks.  Course it help to have family or friends ties to point the way as is being pointed  out by the TW reports and comments daily. .   
Today we stand in ecstasy and view that we build today'
Tomorrow we will enter into the plea to have it torn away.


Gaspar

Someone is off their meds again.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

Quote from: Gaspar on December 09, 2010, 03:57:14 PM
Someone is off their meds again.
I think that's a prerequisite for being appointed head of the Department of Homeland Security.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln