Full Body Scans

[Breadburner]

The dude on the top right is definetely black......

[Conan71]

The dude on the top right is definetely black......

And the one on the top left is Aunt Fester?

[heironymouspasparagus]

Waterboy,
First make your appointment for the lobotomy...

[waterboy]

I actually looked up the position. Not bad. Pays up to $40K and requires you to be able to work under adverse conditions: noise, angry customers, alarms, potential theats and confusion. They emphasize that it is a service to your country.

Better than what I get now with the same adverse conditions.

[patric]

Tulsa is the test city for the new Full Body Scanners to replace metal detectors at airports.  It takes twice as long to go through than a metal detector (30 seconds per person not a big deal for an individual, but 30 seconds per person times any more than 120 an hour = trouble.  And 120 people an hour is a joke.) but are far more sensitive.  They produce an "image" of the entire person.

Feds have been keeping the images after all:
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=16030.0
Liar, liar...

[PonderInc]

In Tulsa, you can no longer choose to go through the "old-fashioned" metal detector lines.  They all now have the silly body scanner thingies.

I don't like them for several reasons:

1. You have to completely empty your pockets (even of paper money, kleenex, billfold, etc).  This slows things down.  Plus, where do you put your stuff when you do this?  (In an open tray where somebody else can grab it while you're stuck waiting for the results of your scan.)

2. You have to remove your belt, etc.  This also slows things down. I never have to remove my belt to go through the metal detectors.  This adds to the slow/annoying factor.

3.  A lot of TSA people are creepy, and even if they weren't, I don't want them looking at my naked body.  Even if I were still 25.  (Maybe especially if I were still 25...)

4.  Nobody is ever going to hijack an airplane with something they might be able to sneak through a metal detector.  The passengers would overwhelm them and beat the crap out of them before they made it to the cockpit.  This is the main thing that has changed since 9/11...and it provides us all with much better security than all the TSA "theater" at the airports.

[patric]

In Tulsa, you can no longer choose to go through the "old-fashioned" metal detector lines.  They all now have the silly body scanner thingies.

I don't like them for several reasons:

1. You have to completely empty your pockets (even of paper money, kleenex, billfold, etc).  This slows things down.  Plus, where do you put your stuff when you do this?  (In an open tray where somebody else can grab it while you're stuck waiting for the results of your scan.)

2. You have to remove your belt, etc.  This also slows things down. I never have to remove my belt to go through the metal detectors.  This adds to the slow/annoying factor.

3.  A lot of TSA people are creepy, and even if they weren't, I don't want them looking at my naked body.  Even if I were still 25.  (Maybe especially if I were still 25...)

4.  Nobody is ever going to hijack an airplane with something they might be able to sneak through a metal detector.  The passengers would overwhelm them and beat the crap out of them before they made it to the cockpit.  This is the main thing that has changed since 9/11...and it provides us all with much better security than all the TSA "theater" at the airports.

Werent we told you had the option of being frisked /waned if you didnt want to be body scanned?
Wonder what the official position on that is know?  Of course if you dont know your rights, they may be under no obligation to assist you.

Isnt it nice to know you have a naked picture of yourself in some federal database (that wasnt supposed to exist in the first place)? 

[heironymouspasparagus]

A friend - I guess - sent me this link for pizza delivery.  Apparently it is a real place.  In New Zealand.

CAUTION!!  This is an interactive zombie video and is very graphic with bloody violence.  In a B movie sort of way.  If you are squeamish at all - DON'T go here.  You've been warned, so don't come whining to me later.

Lots and lots of blood.  Kind of like the IRS, though, so I was strangely at home with the whole experience.  (As in how the IRS keeps on sucking your life's blood until you are bled dry.)  And you can win free pizza for a year!

Or the TSA and the way they want to probe your most intimate inner depths.  Yeah, it's a stretch, but I think a valid connection.  (Commentary on government zombies?)

Click the go arrow in the center of the page.

http://hellpizza.co.nz/

[custosnox]

In Tulsa, you can no longer choose to go through the "old-fashioned" metal detector lines.  They all now have the silly body scanner thingies.

I don't like them for several reasons:

1. You have to completely empty your pockets (even of paper money, kleenex, billfold, etc).  This slows things down.  Plus, where do you put your stuff when you do this?  (In an open tray where somebody else can grab it while you're stuck waiting for the results of your scan.)

2. You have to remove your belt, etc.  This also slows things down. I never have to remove my belt to go through the metal detectors.  This adds to the slow/annoying factor.

3.  A lot of TSA people are creepy, and even if they weren't, I don't want them looking at my naked body.  Even if I were still 25.  (Maybe especially if I were still 25...)

4.  Nobody is ever going to hijack an airplane with something they might be able to sneak through a metal detector.  The passengers would overwhelm them and beat the crap out of them before they made it to the cockpit.  This is the main thing that has changed since 9/11...and it provides us all with much better security than all the TSA "theater" at the airports.

My Daughter just flew into Tulsa last week.  Good thing she didn't fly out from here, I think I would get started on some of those child porn lawsuits.

[nathanm]

Do you not still have the option of taking the pat down?

[Gaspar]

Do you not still have the option of taking the pat down?

I prefer a "feel up" to a "pat down."

Just seems more optimistic.

[nathanm]

I prefer a "feel up" to a "pat down."

Just seems more optimistic.

I haven't had many lady TSA folks, so it's usually a pat down. 

[Townsend]

I haven't had many lady TSA folks, so it's usually a pat down. 

When they snap those rubber gloves on...OH...I feel the sensation of a York Peppermint Patty being smeared all over me.

[Gaspar]

I haven't had many lady TSA folks, so it's usually a pat down. 

That's discriminatory.

[patric]

Knowing that the TSA actually keeps the near-naked images doesnt do anything to promote trust and confidence in their little theater.   


Pat-Downs 101: Nine Things to Know About Your Thanksgiving Airport Screening
http://news.google.com/news/url?sa=t&ct2=us%2F2_0_s_0_0_t&usg=AFQjCNF_YEP3g3rRC2LCYRch73S5GNWOjQ&cid=17593819774014&ei=MxbkTKCQBY7Q8ASbvp6NAQ&rt=MORE_COVERAGE&vm=STANDARD&url=http%3A%2F%2Fnewsfeed.time.com%2F2010%2F11%2F17%2Fpat-downs-101%2F

Leaked online: The body scanner images we were promised would never be saved or published
http://www.dailymail.co.uk/news/article-1330327/Airport-security-breach-naked-body-scanner-images-leaked-online.html?ito=feeds-newsxml

US body-scanner boycott gains momentum
http://news.cheapflights.co.uk/2010/11/us-body-scanner-boycott-gains-momentum/

The Fed's Porn Stash
http://www.tulsanow.org/forum/index.php?topic=16030.0