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Started by cannon_fodder, February 20, 2009, 10:01:34 AM

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guido911

Here's an account by a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted by TSA.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/chase-e1.1.1.html

Remember the good ole days when probable cause or even reasonable suspicion was necessary before a government official could put their hands on you?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

TheTed

I will definitely be opting out of the nude-o-scope scanner machine every time I fly. At least with the groping I can see what's going on and know there's nothing being stored anywhere.

Where are our small-government freedom-lovin', flag-waving elected representatives on this? Republicans can talk a big game about freedom, liberty and such, but I don't see them doing anything about it.
 

guido911

Quote from: TheTed on November 17, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
I will definitely be opting out of the nude-o-scope scanner machine every time I fly. At least with the groping I can see what's going on and know there's nothing being stored anywhere.

Where are our small-government freedom-lovin', flag-waving elected representatives on this? Republicans can talk a big game about freedom, liberty and such, but I don't see them doing anything about it.

You may hate it put just tune into any national talk radio show and you'll hear the outrage. I would like to know what the ACLU is doing about it.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

I'll step into the booth.  If someone's getting jollies from a blurry outline of my boys, so be it.

It might make me try to get into better shape.

This reminds me of the outrage from the 2 way mirrors in dressing rooms for department stores a while back.

custosnox

Quote from: guido911 on November 17, 2010, 01:30:41 PM
Here's an account by a woman who claims she was sexually assaulted by TSA.

http://www.lewrockwell.com/orig11/chase-e1.1.1.html

Remember the good ole days when probable cause or even reasonable suspicion was necessary before a government official could put their hands on you?
But didn't you hear?  You agreed to this kind of treatment by deciding to fly.

Next you will agree to the same treatment by deciding to walk out your front door.  But you always have the choice of not being subjected to it by not leaving your home.

guido911

Now here is a rant worth listening to:

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: TheTed on November 17, 2010, 01:36:00 PM
Where are our small-government freedom-lovin', flag-waving elected representatives on this? Republicans can talk a big game about freedom, liberty and such, but I don't see them doing anything about it.

Here's one.

http://duncan.house.gov/2010/11/duncan-blasts-tsa-pat-downs-body-scanners.shtml
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

custosnox

I think the outrage over this whole ordeal is reaching majority level and then some.  The question is though, what can we do about it?  I mean honestly, what does it take to stop this kind of stuff?

guido911

Quote from: custosnox on November 17, 2010, 02:39:49 PM
I think the outrage over this whole ordeal is reaching majority level and then some.  The question is though, what can we do about it?  I mean honestly, what does it take to stop this kind of stuff?

There's at least one district attorney that will prosecute:

QuoteSAN MATEO COUNTY, Calif. (KGO) -- The San Mateo district attorney's office has a warning for all TSA personnel at SFO -- anyone inappropriately touching a passenger during a security pat down will be prosecuted.

Incoming San Mateo DA Steve Wagstaffe says any complaints of inappropriate touching during an airport security pat down will land on his desk.

"The case would be reviewed and if we could prove the elements of it, that it was inappropriately done with a sexual or lewd intent, that person would be prosecuted," he said.

The charge -- sexual battery.
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/peninsula&id=7793386

Otherwise, you can always file charges and/or sue.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Townsend

Quote from: guido911 on November 17, 2010, 02:52:13 PM
There's at least one district attorney that will prosecute:
http://abclocal.go.com/kgo/story?section=news/local/peninsula&id=7793386

Otherwise, you can always file charges and/or sue.

I see many recordings of pat downs in our future.

Won't have to use a doll anymore.  "1 minute 45 seconds in is where he cupped it"

custosnox

now if I have to take one of my kids on a plane, am I still allowed to defend my child from a pedophile trying to touch them inapproprately or take nude photo's of them?

Townsend

#41
The head of the TSA said on CNN yesterday that children under 12 are free to move about un-groped and un-scanned.

custosnox

Quote from: Townsend on November 17, 2010, 03:07:28 PM
The head of the TDA said on CNN yesterday that children under 12 are free to move about un-groped and un-scanned.
oh, so my 13 year old will be subjected to it.

Townsend

Quote from: custosnox on November 17, 2010, 03:08:23 PM
oh, so my 13 year old will be subjected to it.

From what I understood.

I believe this is the interview but I'm unable to watch for it.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/17/airport.security/index.html

custosnox

Quote from: Townsend on November 17, 2010, 03:29:04 PM
From what I understood.

I believe this is the interview but I'm unable to watch for it.

http://www.cnn.com/2010/TRAVEL/11/17/airport.security/index.html
Question still stands, am I allowed to protect my child from inappropriate touching and nude photos?