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[Townsend]

Question still stands, am I allowed to protect my child from inappropriate touching and nude photos?

From my understanding, if you choose to fly and you bring a 12 year old or older child, you have no choice.

That was from the interview I caught while eating lunch with my wife yesterday.  By no means do I have the absolute answer.  Strangely, the way Pistole, was acting on the interview, he may not have the absolute answer either.

[custosnox]

From my understanding, if you choose to fly and you bring a 12 year old or older child, you have no choice.

That was from the interview I caught while eating lunch with my wife yesterday.  By no means do I have the absolute answer.  Strangely, the way Pistole, was acting on the interview, he may not have the absolute answer either.

I have the choice of breaking the nose of anyone who touches one of my kids in an inappropriate manner. And sadley enough, a parent protecting their children in such a manner is likely to go to jail

[Townsend]

I have the choice of breaking the nose of anyone who touches one of my kids in an inappropriate manner. And sadley enough, a parent protecting their children in such a manner is likely to go to jail

and $11,000 fine if found guilty.

[custosnox]

and $11,000 fine if found guilty.

And that is probably the best hope of doing anything about this whole ordeal, keep appealing it, and hope it goes to the top for a decision from the holy nine

[dbacks fan]

Here are a couple of articles on the John Tyner incident in San Diego.....

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/14/tsa-ejects-oceanside-man-airport-refusing-security/

http://www.signonsandiego.com/news/2010/nov/16/who-john-tyner-and-why-he-upsetting-tsa/


They told him he wouldn't be flying today and that he had to leave, then when he left they told him he couldn't leave or he would be fined $10,000.00 for leaving.

[Ed W]

I would like to know what the ACLU is doing about it.

It's at the bottom of the piece, Guido.

http://www.examiner.com/alternative-transportation-in-tulsa/more-tsa-groping

The Senate will hold hearing on the new pat down procedure on the 24th.

[guido911]

It's at the bottom of the piece, Guido.

http://www.examiner.com/alternative-transportation-in-tulsa/more-tsa-groping

The Senate will hold hearing on the new pat down procedure on the 24th.

They're doing something. That's good. It looks like all sides are lining up against this disaster of an idea.

[heironymouspasparagus]

So where are all these so-called pillars of liberty and freedom that talk so much about personal liberty and getting the government off peoples backs and out of their crotches??  Oh, yeah...they are the ones that passed those bills.

[guido911]

So where are all these so-called pillars of liberty and freedom that talk so much about personal liberty and getting the government off peoples backs and out of their crotches??  Oh, yeah...they are the ones that passed those bills.

Oh, it's the repubs and Bush's fault for the decision to start junk jingling the past two weeks.

[guido911]

I am so incensed with this (and that freakin terrorist trial verdict) that I would consider taking a plaintiff case where there is an egregious example of sexual assault. And to avoid the obvious next question, "egregious" would be something along the lines of what happened to Erin Chase.

[Ed W]

It's getting more interesting:

"As nearly 2 million holiday travelers pack Bay Area airports starting Friday, local prosecutors have a warning for overzealous security agents performing the new federal pat-down: touch passengers the wrong way, and we'll throw you in jail."

Read more: http://www.montrealgazette.com/news/Calif+prosecutors+they+charge+agents+downs+inappropriate/3845612/story.html#ixzz15bGH3vAa

[heironymouspasparagus]

Can you spell "Patriot Act".  That is where all this started.  Under Bush and a fully in charge Republicontin Congress - both houses!!


And as if that weren't bad enough - the Dummycrats just can't stay out of the ridiculous party any more than the Republicontins - anyone do any gardening out there?  Maybe grow a tomato or pepper plant just for fun??  Well, you are about to become criminalized if you want to start your own seed with anything outside of what Monsanto wants you to grow!  No heirlooms like Cherokee Purple, Rutgers, Mortgage Lifter.

And all under the lie of Food Safety Modernization Act.

http://www.naturalnews.com/030418_Food_Safety_Modernization_Act_seeds.html
and
http://foodfreedom.wordpress.com/2009/06/13/seeds-how-to-criminalize-them/

[shadows]

One would believe some members on this board are overreacting.  The beaches are filled with bathing suits that show much more or the pat down is being used as security in searching for answers to try to keep a copy cat occurrence.   The tapes of 911 showing the plane striking the second tower has a chilling effect on many people but the 911 would have happened regardless of present search procedures.

Solution would be underwear with lead foil fig leaves embedded and use the present scanner's for those squish who think their privacy is being invaded.      

[heironymouspasparagus]

Let's all go naked!


Uh,....did I say that out loud??

This whole thing is a crock.

[nathanm]

Oh, it's the repubs and Bush's fault for the decision to start junk jingling the past two weeks.

The "enhanced patdown" has been used for the past few months, not the past few weeks. Not that that shifts the responsibility at all. For some odd reason it took this long for the opposition to build up a head of steam, as it were.

I think everything beyond the X-Ray, the WTMD, and explosives trace detection machines are stupid. I've been opposing the TSA ever since rank stupidity the "shoes off" debacle. At the time Richard Reid pulled his Maxwell Smart-esque stunt, TSA was testing out the explosives trace detection portals (aka puffer machines), but for some reason decided that it was best to X-Ray shoes instead of having you wear them through the machine, despite the supposed threat being explosives in shoes.

For a long time, the "shoes off" policy only technically extended to shoes with soles greater than 2 inches in thickness, so I just didn't wear thick-soled shoes to the airport and told 'em where to stuff it if they tried to get me to take them off, despite it almost always resulting in an unwarranted secondary screening. Since they got rid of that exception, I've only flown once, to a destination not reachable by land transportation. I refuse to put up with their crap.

Yes, I am/was the one making them change their gloves and keep my carry-ons in my sight and follow every other procedure they've got to a T and filing a complaint if/when they don't. It's their fault our relationship got off to a rocky start back in 2001 when they took something from me which wasn't on the list of banned items and called the cops on me when I questioned that decision and asked to see the airport FSD. Since that time, I have been pleasant, but exceedingly strict. You can thank me for all those times you've seen me taking the patdown and making it take as long as possible, thus preventing you from having to be subject to it under the "we're out of people to secondary, so let's 'randomly' select the next person in line so we look busy" policy.