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Started by guido911, February 21, 2009, 07:05:34 PM

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guido911

Quote from: nathanm on March 05, 2009, 10:05:10 PM
But even at 40%, there's still plenty of incentive to increase your income.


Yeah there is. There's providing for folks like these deadbeat, racist losers:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/22/the-shut-up-white-boy-woman-is-the-slum-dweller-with-a-60-inch-tv/
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nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on March 06, 2009, 10:51:49 AM
Yeah there is. There's providing for folks like these deadbeat, racist losers:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/22/the-shut-up-white-boy-woman-is-the-slum-dweller-with-a-60-inch-tv/
Oh, yay, more BS welfare queen stories. That's a pretty crappy TV, actually. :o

Besides, do you or Ms. Malkin know where she got it? For all she knows it could have been a gifted hand-me-down.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

swake

Quote from: guido911 on March 06, 2009, 10:51:49 AM
Yeah there is. There's providing for folks like these deadbeat, racist losers:

http://michellemalkin.com/2007/12/22/the-shut-up-white-boy-woman-is-the-slum-dweller-with-a-60-inch-tv/

So, who is fighting the class war now? Should we have links about Madoff as a retort? There are bad poor people and bad rich people. Your post means nothing.

With this kind of attitude, vilifying and painting the poor as evil leaches, I highly doubt you've ever donated much to any charity that wasn't church related.

Maybe you should reread the New Testament and it's direction regarding the poor.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/187933

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: swake on March 06, 2009, 11:53:31 AM
So, who is fighting the class war now? Should we have links about Madoff as a retort? There are bad poor people and bad rich people. Your post means nothing.

With this kind of attitude, vilifying and painting the poor as evil leaches, I highly doubt you've ever donated much to any charity that wasn't church related.

Maybe you should reread the New Testament and it's direction regarding the poor.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/187933

Some woman has a 60" T.V. which is obviously ridiculous if purchased while receiving Government assistance.  The dead beats need to get kicked off the system.  The issue with these (beat the dead horse thread) arguments is the use of these links like this is 100% of people that get assistance.  The system should be rebooted and people that are happy living on welfare and not working (that can) should be kicked off.  There is a place to assist those that mental and physical disabilities and those that are trying but get laid off, etc. 

(BTW, I am disappointed guido that you haven't posted the Malkin front page story about Obama having dinners with Wagyu-beef, with a side emphasis on the fact he hasn't lowered his thermostat)

nathanm

Quote from: Trogdor on March 06, 2009, 12:52:53 PM
Some woman has a 60" T.V. which is obviously ridiculous if purchased while receiving Government assistance.  The dead beats need to get kicked off the system.  The issue with these (beat the dead horse thread) arguments is the use of these links like this is 100% of people that get assistance.  The system should be rebooted and people that are happy living on welfare and not working (that can) should be kicked off.  There is a place to assist those that mental and physical disabilities and those that are trying but get laid off, etc. 

(BTW, I am disappointed guido that you haven't posted the Malkin front page story about Obama having dinners with Wagyu-beef, with a side emphasis on the fact he hasn't lowered his thermostat)
Uh, single people essentially can't get any cash assistance aside from unemployment benefits, except for disaster victims and such, and what benefits are available are extremely time limited already. IMO, we've already gone too far in that direction, despite the occasional cry about the mythical welfare queen. (The real "welfare queen" fraudulently obtained benefits under nearly a hundred names in various locales, it wasn't some person on the dole living the high life like the Reaganites still claim)

New Orleans is a special case and shouldn't be generalized to the whole nation. Katrina destroyed a large part of the rental stock, so what rentals are available are extremely expensive (like NYC expensive), thus necessitating rent subsidies for most anybody who isn't very well off.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

sgrizzle


guido911

Quote from: swake on March 06, 2009, 11:53:31 AM
So, who is fighting the class war now? Should we have links about Madoff as a retort? There are bad poor people and bad rich people. Your post means nothing.

With this kind of attitude, vilifying and painting the poor as evil leaches, I highly doubt you've ever donated much to any charity that wasn't church related.

Maybe you should reread the New Testament and it's direction regarding the poor.

http://www.newsweek.com/id/187933

Let's see. You seriously doubt that I might go part time in order to not pay higher taxes, you "highly" doubt that I do not give to non-church related charities, you assumed I was the highest earner in my family, and you assume to know what my family's annual income is. Could you tell me the next week's lottery numbers will be, oh knower of everything?

And by the way, what's wrong with giving to church-related charities? At my parish, my donations (which WERE substantial prior to learning my taxes would be increasing) fund: the construction of new homes for those that need shelter; feed the poor and build homes in Jamaica and Haiti; provide food for the hungry in this town, and clothe the homeless at the Day Center and other relief organizations. Oh, let's not forget those donations that help fund those rotten Catholic hospitals throughout the country. One more thing, I do give to private organizations that support child cancer research (St. Baldricks) and that oppose abortion.

As for bad poor people and bad rich people. Fine. I will grant you that point. But know this, taxing the wealthy, just because they have the means to pay, is itself class warfare. I am fighting this class warfare to the extent that I should not be punished for being successful.

And RW, if wanting to keep more of my own money I have earned as a result of hard work and being upset at having to  pay more in taxes makes me a "victim", fine.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Quote from: Trogdor on March 06, 2009, 12:52:53 PM
Some woman has a 60" T.V. which is obviously ridiculous if purchased while receiving Government assistance.  The dead beats need to get kicked off the system.  The issue with these (beat the dead horse thread) arguments is the use of these links like this is 100% of people that get assistance.  The system should be rebooted and people that are happy living on welfare and not working (that can) should be kicked off.  There is a place to assist those that mental and physical disabilities and those that are trying but get laid off, etc. 

(BTW, I am disappointed guido that you haven't posted the Malkin front page story about Obama having dinners with Wagyu-beef, with a side emphasis on the fact he hasn't lowered his thermostat)

Sorry I let you down. Oh, and welcome aboard and I look forward to reading your posts.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

guido911

Fantastic News! Pelosi open to the idea of a second stimulus plan. I guess she wants to go after our yet unborn great grandchildren's piggy banks.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19835.html
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nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on March 10, 2009, 01:01:51 PM
Fantastic News! Pelosi open to the idea of a second stimulus plan. I guess she wants to go after our yet unborn great grandchildren's piggy banks.

http://www.politico.com/news/stories/0309/19835.html
Good, we need it, and the public is behind the idea at the moment. They probably won't be in six months when the first stimulus hasn't really done a lot yet. (It takes time to have an effect)

Of course, as long as the media keeps pounding on the banks and claiming they are all insolvent, we won't get anywhere towards a large scale rebound in the private sector, as sentiment will remain rather bearish among most.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Quote from: nathanm on March 10, 2009, 01:45:19 PM
Good, we need it, and the public is behind the idea at the moment. They probably won't be in six months when the first stimulus hasn't really done a lot yet. (It takes time to have an effect)

Of course, as long as the media keeps pounding on the banks and claiming they are all insolvent, we won't get anywhere towards a large scale rebound in the private sector, as sentiment will remain rather bearish among most.

It's not just the media, it's also the exhalted one:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5294HH20090310
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nathanm

Quote from: guido911 on March 10, 2009, 06:28:36 PM
It's not just the media, it's also the exhalted one:

http://www.reuters.com/article/newsOne/idUSTRE5294HH20090310
That article seems not to say what you think it does.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

Mr. Transparency signs Omnibus Bill behind closed doors (and without teleprompter):

http://news.yahoo.com/s/ap/obama_spending

Is his signing a bill with nearly 9K earmarks make him a liar? Yep.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

USRufnex

#103
McCain campaigned to eliminate earmarks... Obama campaigned to reduce them... but Obama is the liar?... while Inhofe grabs $53mil?... I think that makes the Michelle Maulkin spooners either hypocrits... or liars... or both... or maybe it just exposes Guido as a POS.   ::)

guido911

Quote from: USRufnex on March 11, 2009, 08:39:12 PM
McCain campaigned to eliminate earmarks... Obama campaigned to reduce them... but Obama is the liar?... while Inhofe grabs $53mil?... I think that makes the Michelle Maulkin spooners either hypocrits... or liars... or both... or maybe it just exposes Guido as a POS.   ::)

What does Inhofe have to do with this discussion? Absolutely nothing. Just another, "HEY LOOK OVER HERE" diversion. As for reducing earmarks; did he? Did he have the chance to reduce earmarks and refuse? Absolutely. Oh, and one more thing, remember how Obama used to bash Bush over "signing statements"? Gee, what did Obama just do when he signed this bill.

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.