Someone needs to tell Joe the Plumber that he's...

[Hoss]

...on minute sixteen.

http://www.alternet.org/blogs/peek/129297/

[Townsend]

Good to see it.  Now if they'd kill the octuplet story and the Alaska governor thing I'd turn CNN back on.

[Conan71]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

...on minute sixteen.

[}:)]  Never heard that one before...good one.

[joiei]

Does this mean he will have to give back the advance?

[guido911]

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

[Townsend]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

Why?  Because she's a plumber way over her head or because his son was killed in a war he doesn't agree with?

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

Why?  Because she's a plumber way over her head or because his son was killed in a war he doesn't agree with?

Agreed.  While I never really approved of her methods, at least her motives were sound.  Losing a child in a war that pretty much now has proven to be unnecessary as far as what the primary objective was (ridding Iraq of WMD) would ring hollow to me if I were a parent.  I'd of course still be proud of my child's service, but imagine what the parents are going through.  Any immediate family for that matter.  I've seen the effects firsthand on a family I'm close to.  Friends feel helpless to do anything but say 'sorry'.  It stinks.

Somehow I'm guessing the majority of posters on this forum have never felt that pain (pain of losing a child).

[guido911]

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

Why?  Because she's a plumber way over her head or because his son was killed in a war he doesn't agree with?

Sheehan whored out her son's honorable death for personal gain--nothing more. What did her son's death have to do with her cozying up to that thug Hugo Chavez and the commie Bob Avakian? Absolutely nothing.  

As for JTP, while I agree his time in the limelight is close to ending, he  did not initiate it. Obama approached him and made a stupid statement. Then, JTP had state officials dig through his personal life trying to find dirt to either discredit him (as if he said something wrong) or to humiliate him. I dare say many in this forum abhor abusive government practices. Curious how we only hear crickets when the victim is a conservative, isn't it?

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

Why?  Because she's a plumber way over her head or because his son was killed in a war he doesn't agree with?

Sheehan whored out her son's honorable death for personal gain--nothing more. What did her son's death have to do with her cozying up to that thug Hugo Chavez and the commie Bob Avakian? Absolutely nothing.  

As for JTP, while I agree his time in the limelight is close to ending, he  did not initiate it. Obama approached him and made a stupid statement. Then, JTP had state officials dig through his personal life trying to find dirt to either discredit him (as if he said something wrong) or to humiliate him. I dare say many in this forum abhor abusive government practices. Curious how we only hear crickets when the victim is a conservative, isn't it?

Wow, you're saying now it's the Dems and by proxy the current President's fault that this guy was shoved in the spotlight?  How about the 42 times McCain referenced him in one of the Presidential debates?  How about inviting him out on the campaign trail?  Remember how disgusted he got with it all?

Evidently not disgusted enough.

And if your inference is that JTP had his records gone over by the Obama campaign, that was already shut down.  The media did all that.  But I'm sure you'll just say that the media is a shill for our current administration.

Jeez, you're morphing into a conservative version of AOX/FOTD/whatever.  It's a little amusing actually.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by Conan71

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

...on minute sixteen.

[}:)]  Never heard that one before...good one.

Haha...only reason I did that is because I ran out of space in the subject line.

[joiei]

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

Why?  Because she's a plumber way over her head or because his son was killed in a war he doesn't agree with?

Sheehan whored out her son's honorable death for personal gain--nothing more. What did her son's death have to do with her cozying up to that thug Hugo Chavez and the commie Bob Avakian? Absolutely nothing.  

As for JTP, while I agree his time in the limelight is close to ending, he  did not initiate it. Obama approached him and made a stupid statement. Then, JTP had state officials dig through his personal life trying to find dirt to either discredit him (as if he said something wrong) or to humiliate him. I dare say many in this forum abhor abusive government practices. Curious how we only hear crickets when the victim is a conservative, isn't it?

Wow, you're saying now it's the Dems and by proxy the current President's fault that this guy was shoved in the spotlight?  How about the 42 times McCain referenced him in one of the Presidential debates?  How about inviting him out on the campaign trail?  Remember how disgusted he got with it all?

Evidently not disgusted enough.

And if your inference is that JTP had his records gone over by the Obama campaign, that was already shut down.  The media did all that.  But I'm sure you'll just say that the media is a shill for our current administration.

Jeez, you're morphing into a conservative version of AOX/FOTD/whatever.  It's a little amusing actually.

Our very own little Glen Beck with a lot of Sean Hannity thrown in.

[Hoss]

quote:Originally posted by joiei

quote:Originally posted by Hoss

quote:Originally posted by guido911

quote:Originally posted by Townsend

quote:Originally posted by guido911

Reminds me of this:

http://www.snopes.com/photos/politics/sheehan.asp

Why?  Because she's a plumber way over her head or because his son was killed in a war he doesn't agree with?

Sheehan whored out her son's honorable death for personal gain--nothing more. What did her son's death have to do with her cozying up to that thug Hugo Chavez and the commie Bob Avakian? Absolutely nothing.  

As for JTP, while I agree his time in the limelight is close to ending, he  did not initiate it. Obama approached him and made a stupid statement. Then, JTP had state officials dig through his personal life trying to find dirt to either discredit him (as if he said something wrong) or to humiliate him. I dare say many in this forum abhor abusive government practices. Curious how we only hear crickets when the victim is a conservative, isn't it?

Wow, you're saying now it's the Dems and by proxy the current President's fault that this guy was shoved in the spotlight?  How about the 42 times McCain referenced him in one of the Presidential debates?  How about inviting him out on the campaign trail?  Remember how disgusted he got with it all?

Evidently not disgusted enough.

And if your inference is that JTP had his records gone over by the Obama campaign, that was already shut down.  The media did all that.  But I'm sure you'll just say that the media is a shill for our current administration.

Jeez, you're morphing into a conservative version of AOX/FOTD/whatever.  It's a little amusing actually.

Our very own little Glen Beck with a lot of Sean Hannity thrown in.

It probably won't even matter, Joiei; he probably still has me on ignore.

[8D]

[cannon_fodder]

Sheehan was/is a great/horrible example of whoring for attention.  IMHO, the attention was far more important than the cause for dear ole' Cindy.  Just like it is for Joe.

If they can burn bright enough for long enough, they can rake in some exposure, a couple bucks from appearance fees, and maybe hit a home run book deal down the road.  Using politics to create celebrity.  They have no particular incite into the topic (this includes Cindy.  Ones son dying in the war doesn't actually make you an expert on the conflict.  She gets my sympathy and her son gets my respect) so remain like the celebrities who think their opinions matter more than someone elses. . .

[we vs us]

quote:Originally posted by cannon_fodder

Sheehan was/is a great/horrible example of whoring for attention.  IMHO, the attention was far more important than the cause for dear ole' Cindy.  Just like it is for Joe.

If they can burn bright enough for long enough, they can rake in some exposure, a couple bucks from appearance fees, and maybe hit a home run book deal down the road.  Using politics to create celebrity.  They have no particular incite into the topic (this includes Cindy.  Ones son dying in the war doesn't actually make you an expert on the conflict.  She gets my sympathy and her son gets my respect) so remain like the celebrities who think their opinions matter more than someone elses. . .

Why do we always assume the worst motives for someone like Sheehan?  She ran on the Green Party ticket in San Francisco against Nancy Pelosi and lost.  That alone shows that she's still following an idealist's path.  She's certainly not in it for the money.  If she was, she'd be hanging with centrist Dems who have ties to lobbying groups and corporate sponsorships, etc.  The Green Party sure ain't where the sweet deals are.

[cannon_fodder]

I'm not assuming anything.  I'm forming a judgment of her based on her actions.  To me it seems like she will do anything to get a camera on her.  I may very well be wrong, it is merely my opinion.