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Jim Cramer vs. Jon Stewart

Started by cannon_fodder, March 13, 2009, 08:18:29 AM

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cannon_fodder

Wow.

Jon Stewart just unloads on Cramer.  When Cramer pretends he is trying to expose corruption and help the markets they play clip after clip of Cramer bragging about manipulating the markets and how the SEC is too stupid to figure it out "but I wouldn't brag about that on TV."  Really harsh.

The link is to the 2nd part of the interview, it follows with a link to the 3rd.  These are the ones that have the meat to them.

LANGUAGE WARNING.  It is not edited and there are Fbombs.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/296683.html
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I crush grooves.

Gaspar

I'd like to see a steel cage match between these two. 

Both are meaningless individuals.  Cramer has picked more losers than winners, and, well then there's Stewart.

They are both good for a laugh, that is all.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

Hoss

Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 13, 2009, 08:18:29 AM
Wow.

Jon Stewart just unloads on Cramer.  When Cramer pretends he is trying to expose corruption and help the markets they play clip after clip of Cramer bragging about manipulating the markets and how the SEC is too stupid to figure it out "but I wouldn't brag about that on TV."  Really harsh.

http://www.breitbart.tv/html/296683.html

I'm looking forward to seeing the whole thing (CC said they had to trim 8 minutes for the TV show, but would have it in it's entirety on the CC website sometime today).  I did see the TV version and I have never seen a person so contrite in my life.  Kudos to JS for actually sounding like a journalist as opposed to a comedic talking head.  He definitely did his homework for this.

'Roll 210!'   ;D


cannon_fodder

Quote from: Gaspar on March 13, 2009, 08:23:20 AM
Both are meaningless individuals.  Cramer has picked more losers than winners, and, well then there's Stewart.

They are both good for a laugh, that is all.

And as Stewart said in the interview, he admits his is an entertainment show first.  Any news that is given out is just ancillary to that end.   If you are going to sell snake oil and tell everyone that you are, but it tastes great - then no foul. 
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I crush grooves.

we vs us

Quote from: cannon_fodder on March 13, 2009, 09:20:24 AM
And as Stewart said in the interview, he admits his is an entertainment show first.  Any news that is given out is just ancillary to that end.   If you are going to sell snake oil and tell everyone that you are, but it tastes great - then no foul. 

I haven't seen it yet, so my reaction mostly has to do with the work Stewart's done prior to this (especially his excellent Crossfire appearance):

Stewart's really doing some of the best American comedy in years and years . . . not because he's "funny" per se (YMMV, though I find him consistently hilarious), but because he uses his funny to nail the power structure to the wall so successfully and so regularly.  He's the essential court jester. 

His Obama coverage has been hit and miss, so it's good to see him find a strong through-line again.



Gaspar

I take no real issue with Stewart, Frankin, Olbertman, Limbaugh, Boortz, or the entire MSNBC staff.

I understand that they are all just entertainers, not journalists or reporters.  I would never hope to limit their speech or opinion.  I enjoy the occasional Daily Show.

When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

rwarn17588

I watched the whole thing, and it was just brutal for Cramer. I mean, he looked like a dog that had been kicked a few times with steel-toed boots after Stewart was through with him.

And Stewart wasn't yelling or screaming like Cramer usually does on his show. It's just that Stewart's questions were quiet ice-stick stabs to Cramer's heart (and his bullsh*t), and Cramer had no good answer for them.

nathanm

I feel bad for Cramer. He's really just one of the useful idiots. A tool of the pump and dumpers who have been behind the plans to get everybody they can into the market to inflate stock prices.

I'd much prefer to see people going after the men behind the curtain. This is better than nothing, though.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Neptune

I feel bad for Cramer too.  I watch Mad Money every once in a while, he's intense and kind of funny sometimes.  Never bought a stock based on his analysis.  I've always thought Cramer was more level-headed about certain aspects of the market than much of CNBC.

I think Jon Stewart has a point.  CNBC, and most of it's line up, are not "journalists" on the economy.   Fox News, in many circles, is kind of a running joke because it's mostly political hacks posing as journalists.  The same can be said for CNBC.  CNBC has little journalistic integrity.  They present the markets and stocks in a certain light, with full knowledge that the markets are far more complicated and in ways (for potentially diabolical reasons) "hidden" from the public. 

They just don't present the information people needed to know about "the nature of our markets" and recently "how bad this economy is."  I've believed for some time, that market analysts don't know anything about the economy.  In hindsight, that's probably incorrect.  They probably know way more than they're telling, in some cases they're strategically omitting information, and I think that is just as bad in the case of a major "Business News" television network.

Hawkins

Quote from: Gaspar on March 13, 2009, 10:36:49 AM
I take no real issue with Stewart, Frankin, Olbertman, Limbaugh, Boortz, or the entire MSNBC staff.

I understand that they are all just entertainers, not journalists or reporters.  I would never hope to limit their speech or opinion.  I enjoy the occasional Daily Show.



Amen, brother!

The only issue I take is that none of the above except for Stewart will admit this.

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Wilbur

Cramer vs Stewart

WHO CARES?

They are both entertainers.  Sounds like they have successfully entertained a lot of folks this week.

Nick Danger

Quote from: nathanm on March 13, 2009, 01:25:01 PM
I feel bad for Cramer. He's really just one of the useful idiots. A tool of the pump and dumpers who have been behind the plans to get everybody they can into the market to inflate stock prices.

I'd much prefer to see people going after the men behind the curtain. This is better than nothing, though.

Unfortunately, this probably won't happen. The men behind the curtain are the ones that fund these shows.

FOTD

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Quote from: Wilbur on March 14, 2009, 07:22:44 AM
Cramer vs Stewart

WHO CARES?

They are both entertainers.  Sounds like they have successfully entertained a lot of folks this week.

Different world today now that the comedy writers are playing the role of pressing the press.....
Change has come to America.

FOTD

What If Jon Stewart, Instead of John King, Interviewed Dick Cheney

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/arianna-huffington/what-if-jon-stewart-inste_b_175503.html

"This is the problem with King and too many in the Pontius Pilate traditional media: They are so caught up in the obsolete notion that the truth always lies in the middle, they have to pretend that there are two sides to every issue -- and even two sides to straightforward data.

Someone needs to kidnap King and take him to a deprogramming center -- preferably one run by Jon Stewart and his team. "