GOP Texas Gov Hates America, Talks Seceding

[FOTD]

Why do Republicans hate America?

(Rick Perry makes "W" look like a genius, by the way....Molly Ivins called him "Governor Goodhair")
http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/15/governor-says-texans-want-secede-union-probably-wont/


Perhaps, those Texans should take a lesson from farmers in India?

http://www.belfasttelegraph.co.uk/news/world-news/1500-farmers-commit-mass-suicide-in-india-14268995.html

[Wilbur]

His point that the Federal government serves at the pleasure of the states, not the other way around, is spot on.  Unfortunately, the fed side forgets that.

[we vs us]

His point that the Federal government serves at the pleasure of the states, not the other way around, is spot on.  Unfortunately, the fed side forgets that.

Actually, wasn't that the lesson of the Civil War?  That secession is illegal and no one state -- or group of state -- is more powerful than the union?

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

He does not hate America. He hates what America is turning into.  Seceding is a last resort and probably won't ever happen.  The majority of the states are seeking 10th Amendment resolutions to give the feds notice that they must uphold the Constitution of the US. It has already passed in the State Congress in OK.  Most of the politicians in Washington DC are law breakers and anyone that supports them is against the Constitution and what it stands for.  They are only aloud to make laws for the states that are allowed by the Constitution.  I think after 30 or more states formally declare soveriegnty the feds will repeal a lot of laws and setup tests to check bills for their Constitutionality to avoid those states from leaving the union.

[Hoss]

He does not hate America. He hates what America is turning into.  Seceding is a last resort and probably won't ever happen.  The majority of the states are seeking 10th Amendment resolutions to give the feds notice that they must uphold the Constitution of the US. It has already passed in the State Congress in OK.  Most of the politicians in Washington DC are law breakers and anyone that supports them is against the Constitution and what it stands for.  They are only aloud to make laws for the states that are allowed by the Constitution.  I think after 30 or more states formally declare soveriegnty the feds will repeal a lot of laws and setup tests to check bills for their Constitutionality to avoid those states from leaving the union.

It's political grandstanding, pure and simple.  If they were so hell-bent against what this country was turning into, why weren't they doing to tea parties and screaming 'secede' in the previous administration?

Because it was a case of scratching backs, I'm guessing.

Thanks for being America's Quebec, Texas.   

[USRufnex]

Ummm.  Weren't the last Texas secessionists jailed in the 90s?

Where were Texas Republicans then?

Political desperation breeds strange bedfellows.... I bet Kay Bailey Hutchison beats Perry out due to these shenanigans.

I need a Rick Perry vs. Rod Blagojevich celebrity death match....

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

No one is screaming secede, they are screaming for lower taxes for citizens and businesses, no more bailouts, securing our borders, defending the Constitution and less Federal bureaucracy.  

There were lots of people that were in the "tea party" mindset during the Bush era and I was one of them.  I supported 3rd party candidates for President and I was heavily against Bush on issues like the Patriot Act.  The bailouts and job losses have caused many Americans to join in the "tea party" mindset.  It is not against any one person or party but supports massive reform in Washington DC through unprecidented grass roots efforts.

[USRufnex]

So, let me get this straight... these "tea-party" folks got no media coverage or only token coverage when former Texas governor Bush was in power...

When everybody making under $250k per year gets a TAX CUT and the tax rate for $250k and higher goes from 35% to 39.5%, this huge so-called "grassroots movement" gets play-by-play coverage by Fox.... 39.5% is still LESS THAN THE TAX RATE FOR THE FIRST SIX YEARS OF RONALD REAGAN....

Guess it's only oppressive government when the Republicans are not in power......

The Republican activist media is at it again.

[Wilbur]

So, let me get this straight... these "tea-party" folks got no media coverage or only token coverage when former Texas governor Bush was in power...

When everybody making under $250k per year gets a TAX CUT and the tax rate for $250k and higher goes from 35% to 39.5%, this huge so-called "grassroots movement" gets play-by-play coverage by Fox.... 39.5% is still LESS THAN THE TAX RATE FOR THE FIRST SIX YEARS OF RONALD REAGAN....

Guess it's only oppressive government when the Republicans are not in power......

The Republican activist media is at it again.

Funny.  Fox didn't start this movement, only chose the cover it.  Right along with ABC, NBC, CNN (who made a joke of themselves), CBS.......

Maybe Oklahoma should join Texas!

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

These are plain old citizens not Republicans.  The mainstream media has painted it as just being Republicans.  These are people that lost their jobs because their company moved to another country because they could not afford the high tax rate on businesses.  These are people with kids that don't want to pass an 11 trillion dollar and growing debt to their children.  These are people that don't think we should borrow from China to pay bailouts to crooked bankers.

[USRufnex]

The anti-tax "movement" has been around for years... Fox News chose to manipulate and propagandize it because it serves Rupert Murdoch's interests.... yeah, what a great big crowd in conservative Tulsa...

Fox reporter bored out of his skull at Tulsa tea bag party
http://www.dailykostv.com/w/001170/

[rwarn17588]

No one is screaming secede, they are screaming for lower taxes for citizens and businesses, no more bailouts, securing our borders, defending the Constitution and less Federal bureaucracy.  

Um, news flash. Tax rates dropped this year.

As for bailouts, do you want the entire financial system to collapse instead? Because that's what would happen without them. Nobody really likes bailout, but they're the best of a bad situation.

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

Taxes for businesses are higher here than many countries and need to be cut dramatically.  Cutting taxes on individuals does not help as much when you lose your job to someone overseas.  This is common sence but people still don't get it.

I think the bankers are corrupt and should be punished and not rewarded with bailouts.  Let the banks in trouble file for bankruptcy like any other business.  The financial system will collapse anyway because it is based on worthless debt.  They need to find a better system without the federal reserve.

[nathanm]

Taxes for businesses are higher here than many countries and need to be cut dramatically.  Cutting taxes on individuals does not help as much when you lose your job to someone overseas.  This is common sence but people still don't get it.

Please enumerate the countries that have lower taxes on corporate income. Or at least list a few examples.

Jobs aren't going overseas because of taxes. They're going overseas in general because of lower labor costs and less stringent environmental regulation. They largely go to China because of their artificially weak currency relative to the dollar.

[OpenYourEyesTulsa]

I know that cost of labor is an issue too but a lot of IT jobs are moving to Ireland for the same wage because the business pays much lower taxes.