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Karma - Yay or Ney?

Started by Admin, April 21, 2009, 01:16:07 PM

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Now that most everyone has had a chance to use the Karma feature, do you think we should keep it or get rid of it?

Keep It
18 (50%)
Get Rid of It
18 (50%)

Total Members Voted: 26

Voting closed: April 28, 2009, 01:16:07 PM

Hoss

OK, someone is loading up evidently, or I must be really disliked.  I checked my now newly negative Karma of neg 17 last night (after having a high of about plus 45 two weeks ago).  I check it again now, it's -39.

I don't mind the Karma rating; really I think it's pointless.  My point is it can be abused, and in this case it sure looks like it is being done.  That could drive other people off.

waterboy

I don't care for this new feature. I don't look down on Hoss and I think others do have influence on me whether it says so or not. Really, I think it may have been manipulated in the past. I also lost tremendous Karma coinciding with my posts on river development.

I change my vote. Get rid of any system that purports to rank or rate posters. I prefer the mystery of not knowing or at least convincing myself that the reason people don't always respond is that I have made my points so well that they all agree with me. :)

nathanm

Quote from: Hoss on May 03, 2009, 12:39:21 PM
OK, someone is loading up evidently, or I must be really disliked.  I checked my now newly negative Karma of neg 17 last night (after having a high of about plus 45 two weeks ago).  I check it again now, it's -39.

I don't mind the Karma rating; really I think it's pointless.  My point is it can be abused, and in this case it sure looks like it is being done.  That could drive other people off.
Yeah, I'm already at -17 myself. Someone is messing with things. (or I pissed some people off, which is equally likely). If the template on the profile page worked, we could see who was doing it and why, if they bothered to input a comment.

That basically addresses my main annoyance with the whole thing, (if it worked) and should help to keep squabbles about the quality of a given post off the threads and in private messages.

It would be nice if the mod exposed reputation actions publicly, though. Then a user can see why another user has the reputation they do.
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sauerkraut

The Karma is gone now- anyone know what happened? ???
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nathanm

Quote from: sauerkraut on May 03, 2009, 01:39:30 PM
The Karma is gone now- anyone know what happened? ???
Try reading the thread.

LOL, I just got the bright idea to mouse over the green/red dot. Mine says "nathanm is looked down upon."

"waterboy has no influence."

Too funny.
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waterboy

Being looked down upon by those with no influence may actually be a good thing. Still, its a bit demeaning to us both. When will we start getting messages like, "You are possibly a racist" or "Others think you're a waste of band width" or even "Even other Socialists think you're kind of liberal"?

Wilbur

With the Karma, you were able to give good or bad Karma.  How does this new system change from positive to negative?

nathanm

Quote from: Wilbur on May 03, 2009, 02:21:38 PM
With the Karma, you were able to give good or bad Karma.  How does this new system change from positive to negative?
Click the little heart, and all will be revealed.

There's an option to "agree" or "disagree" with a post and you even get to write a comment. If the template were working, you'd be able to see reputation actions done to you on your profile page, including the users who have repped you and their comments, if any.
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Hoss

Quote from: nathanm on May 03, 2009, 02:47:46 PM
Click the little heart, and all will be revealed.

There's an option to "agree" or "disagree" with a post and you even get to write a comment. If the template were working, you'd be able to see reputation actions done to you on your profile page, including the users who have repped you and their comments, if any.

Which in effect usually did one thing: promote karma wars.

TheArtist

Quote from: waterboy on May 03, 2009, 01:30:14 PM
I don't care for this new feature. I don't look down on Hoss and I think others do have influence on me whether it says so or not. Really, I think it may have been manipulated in the past. I also lost tremendous Karma coinciding with my posts on river development.

I change my vote. Get rid of any system that purports to rank or rate posters. I prefer the mystery of not knowing or at least convincing myself that the reason people don't always respond is that I have made my points so well that they all agree with me. :)


I agree, and I couldnt figure out what the meaning of the Karma thing was anyway?

I had really good Karma, then suddenly went to bad.... and I hadnt even really posted much and certainly hadnt posted anything during that time which could be construed as negative lol? Plus, you could say one thing, some people agree with it and others disagree, then say something else on a different thread and so on.... How would you know which thing it was that the "most" people didnt like or did like?  You had no way of knowing what it was you were doing wrong (or even if you really were doing something wrong). Plus there could simply be people that dont like anything you say regardless and would give negative Karma just because lol. I think Conan71 and CannonFodder had a buddy thing going where they gave each other good Karma every time they saw the others posts lol.
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Hoss

Quote from: TheArtist on May 03, 2009, 06:28:44 PM

I agree, and I couldnt figure out what the meaning of the Karma thing was anyway?

I had really good Karma, then suddenly went to bad.... and I hadnt even really posted much and certainly hadnt posted anything during that time which could be construed as negative lol? Plus, you could say one thing, some people agree with it and others disagree, then say something else on a different thread and so on.... How would you know which thing it was that the "most" people didnt like or did like?  You had no way of knowing what it was you were doing wrong (or even if you really were doing something wrong). Plus there could simply be people that dont like anything you say regardless and would give negative Karma just because lol. I think Conan71 and CannonFodder had a buddy thing going where they gave each other good Karma every time they saw the others posts lol.

No offense to either of those guys, but when I read that the first thing I could think of was 'BroMance'....and I can't for the life of me remember where I first saw that term.  Might have been on Versus Sports Soup (usually played after NHL games on Versus).

I know, I know, it's wrong!  Apologies to CF and Conan!

cannon_fodder

lol.

Conan didn't need my karma help.  The guy has dropped from the face of the posting world and still had more Karma than I did.  Or maybe I should say "and that's why he had more karma . . ."

If I had a super secret karma ring, it failed me.
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Conan71

BroMance, that's pretty funny, actually.

There was a weird pattern for the karma.  I think some posters would simply log on to knock off karma or if they saw a post from someone they typically agree with would click a neg before seeing if their current post had merit.

I think a rating system is pretty silly, but I'm just 1/36 of the equation.
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carltonplace

There are alot of those man-centric phrases flaoting around right now

"guyliner" as in "THe Cure and Adam Lambert like to rock their eyliner"
"manscaping": the act of trimming one's body hair
"man stand" positioning oneself to catch the attention of the opposite sex
"manicorn" a fictional creature that fulfills a woman's ideal of a male
"mangina" from Deuce Bigalo
"dude-terus"

sauerkraut

My red dot is pretty grim it says I'm looked down upon, I'm bad news.  :-X
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