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Started by guido911, April 21, 2009, 03:01:20 PM

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guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on April 23, 2009, 04:06:27 PM
Name a Bushevik who was as bright.

You can't "demonize" the POTUS. He's not one of those right wing terrorist.


Excuse stupidity by lowering the bar.  Wonderful.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

Cats Cats Cats

Quote from: Gaspar on April 23, 2009, 03:59:17 PM
Securing all borders is an issue.  I don't think anyone implied otherwise.

I don't understand why anyone would think that killing kittens was a good thing?



I took your comment
"I assume that Janet will repeal most of the 911 commission's recommendations, as long as we can continue to strengthen security at the Canadian border."

To be making light of strengthening the security at the Canadian border.  However I context I see it is in reference to repealing the 911 commission's recommendations which most of them were never enacted.

USRufnex

#33
Well, I see Guido is doing his usual kindy-garden namecalling....

Conan, why the comparison with Jocelyn Elders?... Elders was never elected to political office and I don't think Napolitano is gonna make any politically unwise comments about teaching masturbation in public schools... Napolitano is qualified to be in this office, no matter what the Republicans say... it's all a buncha knee-jerk politics taken to the extreme...

Janet Napolitano and the New Third Way
   
Arizona's governor has contained Republicans, reinvigorated Democrats, and provided a new model for progressive politics in the West.

http://www.prospect.org/cs/articles?article=janet_napolitano_and_the_new_third_way

Napolitano's rhetoric -- and governing style -- has proved both successful and wildly popular. Today, it is almost impossible to find an Arizona progressive with a bad word to say about her, though it hasn't always been that way. In 2002, the local alt-weekly, the Phoenix New Times, dubbed Napolitano a "poster blob for milquetoast party apparatchiks" and even "a neutered Republican." Longtime Latino community activist and former state Sen. Alfredo Gutierrez, who ran against Napolitano in the Democratic gubernatorial primary, hit her from the left, painting her as little more than an ambitious outsider who'd sold out on the death penalty and immigrants' rights. When Napolitano won the election, as expected, and during her first term sent National Guardsmen to the border -- a policy later adopted by the Bush administration--Gutierrez called the decision "an insulting political ploy" and declared the governor "a coward."

But by 2006, as Napolitano faced re-election, Gutierrez was calling her "an extraordinary political figure" with "an amazingly accurate calculus politically." Meanwhile, the New Times named her "Best Politician," writing, "Whenever we criticize her at a cocktail party, longtime Lefty Arizonans (yes, there are one or two) chime in: 'But you should've been here in the past—she's so much better than anybody else we've ever had as governor!'" Progressives had come to appreciate Napolitano's skill at achieving what was possible, while beating back the hardest right initiatives of the state legislature's Republican majority.

Arizona's political climate is harshly conservative on issues such as immigration, taxes, and the death penalty. Even moderate Republicans say they feel stymied by the right. For years, liberals defended what little turf they could, racking up a string of electoral losses in the process. Now Arizona progressives have learned, sometimes the hard way, that Janet Napolitano may be the best advocate for sense and sensibility in a political generation.


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If the Republican chattering classes don't stop this hyperpartisan crap, I predict Obama will win Arizona in four years....

I assume you don't want that... or do you?

 



guido911

Jan the Man apologizes to Vets.  Not accepted by this one. 

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090425/D97P6KT81.html

REAL bright person, eh FOTDoosh?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

#35
Quote from: guido911 on April 25, 2009, 11:02:21 AM
Jan the Man apologizes to Vets.  Not accepted by this one. 

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090425/D97P6KT81.html

REAL bright person, eh FOTDoosh?

She may have fixed the internal process (probably an attempted sabatoge by a leftover misfit from that tortuous administration) BUT the policy of watching right wing nut psychopath vet recruitors started under Bush will continue.

FBN's Sullivan falsely claimed DHS report "nam[ed] veterans groups as possible extremist groups"
Summary: Fox Business' Brian Sullivan falsely asserted that DHS "nam[ed] veterans groups as possible extremist groups" in a recent report on right-wing extremism. In fact, citing an FBI assessment authored during the Bush administration, the report warned of a possible resurgence among extremist groups that "will attempt to recruit and radicalize returning veterans."

http://apnews.myway.com/article/20090425/D97P6KT81.html  Link posted by Gweedoe is not credible.

Try this for an honest assesment: http://mediamatters.org/items/200904240024?f=s_search


Keep a close eye on.......Guido!

FOTD

#36
The enemy within....


Ohio Militia Calls for Armed March on Washington

http://www.splcenter.org/blog/2009/04/24/ohio-militia-calls-for-armed-march-on-washington/

Ohio Militia Calls for Armed March on Washington
Posted in Militias by David Holthouse on April 24, 2009

"The self-identified leader of the Ohio Militia, a conspiracy-minded "Patriot" group, released a video earlier this week calling for 1 million heavily armed antigovernment demonstrators to march on Washington, D.C., this coming July 4.

"We need to do something," he said. "We need to make a dent."

Identifying himself as "Pale Horse," apparently a reference to the Four Horsemen of the Apocalypse, and speaking through a creepy voice distorter, the Ohio militiaman detailed his brazen vision: "A peaceful demonstration of at least a million — hey, if we can get 10 million, even better — but at least one million armed militia men marching on Washington. A peaceful demonstration. No shooting, no one gets hurt. Just a demonstration. The only difference from any typical demonstration is we will all be armed."

The Ohio Militia website contains apocalyptic language and imagery, along with references to various 9/11 and "North American Union" conspiracy theories. Videos show men said to be Ohio Militia members engaged in small-unit, live-fire combat training. One video is titled "America's Wake Up Call: Buy Guns." A different video slideshow depicts assault weapons, mushroom clouds, George Bush, Satan, Osama bin Laden and lots of men in camouflage on maneuvers. It's set to "Goofy's Concern," a song by Butthole Surfers, a psychedelic rock band from Austin, Texas, that includes these lyrics: "I don't give a love about the FBI! I don't give a love about the CIA! I don't give a love about LSD! I don't give a love about anything!"

That video concludes with a message to the Michigan Militia, one of the largest and oldest militia groups in the country: "Thanks for letting us train at Camp Stasa with you guys."

It isn't clear that the Ohio Militia is capable of bringing a busload of protesters to Washington, let alone a million or more. But Pale Horse's call for a gathering of gun-toting militia forces in the nation's capital brings to mind a similar infamous call to arms issued in 1994 by Patriot movement attorney, filmmaker and conspiracy theorist Linda Thompson. Thompson — who once told the editor of this blog about being personally and repeatedly followed by black helicopters, shot at by mysterious attackers, and having a beloved dog zapped by a secret government ray gun — was probably best known for producing the pseudo-documentary "Waco: The Big Lie," which alleged a government mass murder in the 1993 standoff in Texas. Although the video was widely circulated, its claims were soon debunked.

Proclaiming herself "Acting Adjutant General" of the "Unorganized Militia of the United States," Thompson announced that her armed march would take place on Sept. 19, 1994. She said her unorganized army would demand the repeal of the North American Free Trade Agreement and the Brady Bill, a gun control measure. U.S. senators and congressmen who refused to accede would be arrested, tried for treason and, if necessary, executed by firing squad or hanging, she said.

Thompson's plan was almost universally denounced by right-wing groups, including most of the militias that were then appearing all over the country, who accused her of attempting to lead them on a suicide mission. Many in the movement suspected that Thompson was an agent provocateur working for the government.

Response to Pale Horse's suggestion for a more "peaceful" display of force remains to be seen."

WOW!

Conan71

Quote from: USRufnex on April 24, 2009, 10:00:00 PM
Well, I see Guido is doing his usual kindy-garden namecalling....

Conan, why the comparison with Jocelyn Elders?... Elders was never elected to political office and I don't think Napolitano is gonna make any politically unwise comments about teaching masturbation in public schools... Napolitano is qualified to be in this office, no matter what the Republicans say... it's all a buncha knee-jerk politics taken to the extreme...



Difference is, when you have a moron saying that AIDS is a shame because "who is going to work to pay her social security if they are all dying young of AIDS?", other countries laugh at us.

When the head of homeland security starts making gaffes, it can have serious ramifications in foreign relations.  I thought that was one of the major failings we all wanted to correct from the Bush Admin.

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

#38
Looks like Janet has her antenna up on domestic terrorism. She warned of right wingnut anti abortionists and soverign citizens movements back when this thread commenced.

Too bad posties here don't appreciate her....and Bill O'Rielly's Fawks netwerks reckless incitement doesn't seem to shame you into denouncing psychopathic behavior. Hmmmm....

How ingenius to terrorize America to make abortions impossible....

Try keeping an eye on these movements, Janet. You can't stop these terrorists. But you need to come down on the intimidators and inciters. Murdering in the name of gawd is terrorism.

"The Murderers Among Us are in the Anti-Abortion Movement: "The point that must be emphasized over, and over, and over again: pro-life leaders and the pro-life movement are not responsible for George Tiller's death. George Tiller was a mass-murder and, horrifically, he reaped what he sowed." Randall (mad terrorist) Terry.

Conan71

Here's one for all those libs paranoid about right wing terrorism:



It never comes to AOX's mind that an associate of the candidate he supported for POTUS was a left-wing terrorist and participated in the bombing of American institutions.  It's only guilt by association when AOX/Fauxturd says so.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

The conspiracy to elect POTUS OBAMA is in no way comparable to the murderous network of anti abortionists....

Tiller died for the sin of freedom of choice?

Gaspar

Quote from: FOTD on June 02, 2009, 08:52:46 AM
The conspiracy to elect POTUS OBAMA is in no way comparable to the murderous network of anti abortionists....

Tiller died for the sin of freedom of choice?

Tiller died because some idiot murdered him.  It does not make him a martyr. 

However; I am willing to bet that the far left will canonize him.  I think that's a mistake. . .but let them twirl.

Even among the far left pro-abortion crowd he was considered radical in his practices, and his techniques were certainly taboo topics in the political realm. 

He leaves a legacy as a pioneer, advancing his science.  His specialty was advanced late term abortions, and he was respected as the foremost expert in his field.

Tiller developed several new techniques and even invented new surgical tools necessary to perform his trade and still satisfy the fabric of the law.  By performing terminations on "fetuses" that would otherwise be viable outside of the womb, he was required to maneuver in very limited spaces dealing with moving, reacting targets.  Everything had to take place internally or he could risk being charged with murder.  He walked a very fine line. 

My thoughts and prayers are with his family.


When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

FOTD

Where'd Guido disappear to?


Time To Revisit Criticism Of DHS Report On "Right Wing Extremists"?



"It's true that the report committed a misstep in suggesting returning veterans are a risk. But the general intent of the report, which was chock full of warnings about "lone wolf extremists" capable of violence, now looks perfectly defensible, even reasonable."


http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/time-to-revisit-criticism-of-dhs-report-on-right-wing-extremists/

Hoss

Quote from: FOTD on June 03, 2009, 12:12:31 PM
Where'd Guido disappear to?


Time To Revisit Criticism Of DHS Report On "Right Wing Extremists"?



"It's true that the report committed a misstep in suggesting returning veterans are a risk. But the general intent of the report, which was chock full of warnings about "lone wolf extremists" capable of violence, now looks perfectly defensible, even reasonable."


http://theplumline.whorunsgov.com/political-media/time-to-revisit-criticism-of-dhs-report-on-right-wing-extremists/

With his latest posts, I'm wondering if Gweed didn't somehow hack into Conan's account!

J/K wit' ya, Conan....

USRufnex

Quote from: Conan71 on June 02, 2009, 08:42:48 AM
Here's one for all those libs paranoid about right wing terrorism:



It never comes to AOX's mind that an associate of the candidate he supported for POTUS was a left-wing terrorist and participated in the bombing of American institutions.  It's only guilt by association when AOX/Fauxturd says so.

That black guy in the pic.... think I recognize him...... didn't he do this to that poor girl last summer who volunteered for McCain....  ::)



http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=IszjevYoS6A&feature=related