Obama Confronts Republicans

[FOTD]

BEAUTIFUL....let's rock!
Boehner "man tan" is a bone head.....


Obama Confronts Republicans
Posted Fri, 04/24/2009 - 12:43 by carol white
Ryan Grimm in a  Huffington Post headline story indicates that not only is President Obama putting his weight behind the reconciliation-option for passage of a health-care reform bill (ie eliminating the filibuster option in the Senate) but he has expressed anger at Republican obstructionism. Obama Repeatedly Reminds House GOP Of Their Zero Stimulus Votes.

In a meeting with House Republicans at the White House Thursday, President Obama reminded the minority that the last time he reached out to them, they reacted with zero votes -- twice -- for his stimulus package. And then he reminded them again. And again. And again.

Obama also offered payback for that goose egg. A major overhaul of the health care system, he told the Republican leadership, would be done using a legislative process known as reconciliation, meaning that the GOP won't be able to filibuster it.

Congress has until October 15 to pass health care or student lending reform under the normal process. If it doesn't, reconciliation can be used to eliminate the 60-vote requirement.

http://discuss.epluribusmedia.net/node/4128

[Cats Cats Cats]

The Republicans will finally be rid of the filibuster they tried to hard to get rid of!

[HazMatCFO]

Bring on nationalized healthcare through the backdoor for Obama doesn't have the votes to do it any other way. A weak move showing Obama's inability to compromise and that he's a true  socialist using techniques his friends Chavez and Castro would approve of.

This does not surprise me and I anticipate Obama will use it many times.

[Hoss]

Bring on nationalized healthcare through the backdoor for Obama doesn't have the votes to do it any other way. A weak move showing Obama's inability to compromise and that he's a true  socialist using techniques his friends Chavez and Castro would approve of.

This does not surprise me and I anticipate Obama will use it many times.

Wow, that's rich considering the Republicans have been the blockade party since Jan 20th.  You have been listening to rhetoric being spewed forth by John 'Boner' Boehner and Eric 'I acquiesce to all that is Boss-Rush' Cantor, right?

You sound like Gweed now.

The Republicans still can't stomach the fact that they are no longer in power in the executive and the legislative.  They remind me a little of a child holding his or her ears and screaming 'lalalalala I can't hear you lalalala'....

Keep in mind that Bush used this tactic (reconciliation) several times, mainly to push through his tax cuts.  Does that make him a socialist?  Hmm?  I'm waiting....

[Cats Cats Cats]

Bring on nationalized healthcare through the backdoor for Obama doesn't have the votes to do it any other way. A weak move showing Obama's inability to compromise and that he's a true  socialist using techniques his friends Chavez and Castro would approve of.

This does not surprise me and I anticipate Obama will use it many times.

LOL,  only a solialist like those two would require an up or down vote on a law and a majority in favor to pass it.  Everything deserves an up or down vote right?  Man, I never knew how communist all the republicans were who called for up or down votes on everything.

[Ed W]

"Communist"
"Fascist"
"Socialist"

The Republicans have tried tossing every mudball in the arsenal in the full knowledge that none of them are true, yet they resonate with the base.  Maybe their fascination is with 'ist', so here are some suggestions:

Maoist
Anarchist
Royalist
Defeatist
Elitist

So long as the base doesn't know the meanings of any of these words, their leadership will continue to use them.  They just sound nasty.  Real socialists scoff at the attempt to connect President Obama with socialism, but the base doesn't know that and their leadership will happily keep them uninformed.

Jon Stewart cut to the chase when he said, "You lost.  It's supposed to taste like a s**t sandwich!"

[sgrizzle]

When did Obama really reach out to the republican party? He met with them, sure. Did he make any major compromises? No.

When someone someone is vehemently opposed to something, calling them "pal" and shaking their hand is not going to chnge a single vote.

I enjoy both parties using the same tactics and when they use it, it's funny or cool but when the other guy uses it, it's a bad idea. Both parties are this way.

Obama only has a 24% approval ratings with republicans. Telling them to "do it my way or else" is not going to improve that number. Partisanship is alive and well and unless everyone in DC gets their head out of their A$$ (Obama included) it's not going to improve and the disenfranchisement with our elected officials will continue, no matter which group of corrupt ner-do-wells is "in the majority"

[guido911]

"Communist"
"Fascist"
"Socialist"

The Republicans have tried tossing every mudball in the arsenal in the full knowledge that none of them are true, yet they resonate with the base.  Maybe their fascination is with 'ist', so here are some suggestions:

Maoist
Anarchist
Royalist
Defeatist
Elitist

So long as the base doesn't know the meanings of any of these words, their leadership will continue to use them.  They just sound nasty.  Real socialists scoff at the attempt to connect President Obama with socialism, but the base doesn't know that and their leadership will happily keep them uninformed.

Oh, but when dems accused Bush of being a fascist, crickets from your keyboard (or are only dems smart enough to know the definition of fascism):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEcBjpsP1bU

[Cats Cats Cats]

Oh, but when dems accused Bush of being a fascist, crickets from your keyboard (or are only dems smart enough to know the definition of fascism):

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=QEcBjpsP1bU

Yeah I don't know why FOTD tries to say "Bush did it" like it is some sort of defense.  I just laugh at all the morons out there calling for dismantling things like the filibuster.  Just giving somebody worse down the road tools to abuse.  Basically the 50% vote has to do with the fact that it is a budget issue not banning fillibusters.  I haven't heard any calls to remove the filibuster like the Republicans did.

[Cats Cats Cats]

When did Obama really reach out to the republican party? He met with them, sure. Did he make any major compromises? No.

When someone someone is vehemently opposed to something, calling them "pal" and shaking their hand is not going to chnge a single vote.

I enjoy both parties using the same tactics and when they use it, it's funny or cool but when the other guy uses it, it's a bad idea. Both parties are this way.

Obama only has a 24% approval ratings with republicans. Telling them to "do it my way or else" is not going to improve that number. Partisanship is alive and well and unless everyone in DC gets their head out of their A$$ (Obama included) it's not going to improve and the disenfranchisement with our elected officials will continue, no matter which group of corrupt ner-do-wells is "in the majority"

The Republicans were really trying to compromise and help when they release their budget proposal that had no numbers in it http://rawstory.com/news/2008/GOP_budget_proposal_contains_no_numbers_0327.html .  Guido is a perfect example of the (current Republicans).  Do you seriously think he would listen or compromise to ANYTHING that Obama put forth.  Guido will be the first to say HECK NO.  So just because you are dealing with a few hundred Guido's doesn't mean the attempt wasn't made.  Also, Obama has 24% percent approval rating with Republicans basically before he was even President.  Bush's approval rating was like 30% FOR EVERYBODY.


This is what I am hearing from Republicans.  I hear nothing about Obama not compromising (even though it is really the congress and senate but fair enough).

You would think that SOME republican would have said Obama won't compromise in the news.
http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22obama+won%27t+compromise%22
http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22obama+won%27t+listen%22
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=hpR&q=%22obama%20won%27t%20be%20reasonable%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

It is nice that you care whether or not the Democrats compromise but apparently none of the Republicans care enough to say anything about it in the news.

[FOTD]

Over half the country now believes we are headed in the right direction for a change from the low teens just 97 days ago.

Why do mainstream conservatives have so much trouble standing up to and denouncing the far-right elements within their own coalition: they find them very useful. Whacky conspiracy theories are a handy way of stirring up working-class resentment against progressive reformers.

That torturous administration left us close to fascism teetering on a one party system. Damn Gweedoe, you are close to correct but, like everything you seem to do, approached the accusation from the rear.

[Ed W]

Oh, but when dems accused Bush of being a fascist, crickets from your keyboard (or are only dems smart enough to know the definition of fascism):

Are you referring to the President Bush who signed off on torture, deliberately mislead the American people into two wars, allowed no-bid contracts, deprived citizens of their rights, and on and on and on?  That one?

He's some sort of 'ist', all right.  But words are insufficient.

[Chicken Little]

When did Obama really reach out to the republican party? He met with them, sure. Did he make any major compromises? No.

I think he made plenty of compromises.  He allowed them earmarks in the budget bill, and many of them went straight home after voting "no" to brag about the bacon.  

In the stimulus compromise, health care for unemployed workers was slashed, $30 billion was cut in state aid for social services, and even the "Making Work Pay" rebate was cut from $500 to $400.  All of this was done to provide $70 billion for raising the AMT.  That was 10% of the entire stimulus package; the Republicans got these substantial compromises and it resulted in less money going to the poor and unemployed in order to benefit employed folks about to hit AMT.  Not saying that AMT is great, but who needs more help right now in the midst of this mess, someone without a job, or someone making $250,000 a year?

That's a lot of compromise for zero votes.

source: http://online.wsj.com/article/SB123436825805373367.html

[guido911]

The Republicans were really trying to compromise and help when they release their budget proposal that had no numbers in it http://rawstory.com/news/2008/GOP_budget_proposal_contains_no_numbers_0327.html .  Guido is a perfect example of the (current Republicans).  Do you seriously think he would listen or compromise to ANYTHING that Obama put forth.  Guido will be the first to say HECK NO.  So just because you are dealing with a few hundred Guido's doesn't mean the attempt wasn't made.  Also, Obama has 24% percent approval rating with Republicans basically before he was even President.  Bush's approval rating was like 30% FOR EVERYBODY.


This is what I am hearing from Republicans.  I hear nothing about Obama not compromising (even though it is really the congress and senate but fair enough).

You would think that SOME republican would have said Obama won't compromise in the news.
http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22obama+won%27t+compromise%22
http://news.google.com/news?um=1&ned=us&hl=en&q=%22obama+won%27t+listen%22
http://news.google.com/news?hl=en&client=firefox-a&rls=org.mozilla:en-US:official&hs=hpR&q=%22obama%20won%27t%20be%20reasonable%22&um=1&ie=UTF-8&sa=N&tab=wn

It is nice that you care whether or not the Democrats compromise but apparently none of the Republicans care enough to say anything about it in the news.

What exactly do you think I should compromise on with Obama?

Abortion? Will not.
Increase taxes on only the "rich"? Will not.
Bailouts?  Will not.
Earmarks?  Will not.
Amnesty for illegals?  Will not.
Universal Healthcare?  Will not.
Spreading the wealth around?  Will not.

Now, will Obama compromise with me on any of those issues? No.

As for Obama "reaching out" to republicans, please enlighten me as to what you are referring to? Because what I recall about Obama when the repubs were complaining about the stimulus bill is "I won".

[FOTD]

What exactly do you think I should compromise on with Obama?

Abortion? Will not.
Increase taxes on only the "rich"? Will not.
Bailouts?  Will not.
Earmarks?  Will not.
Amnesty for illegals?  Will not.
Universal Healthcare?  Will not.
Spreading the wealth around?  Will not.

Now, will Obama compromise with me on any of those issues? No.

As for Obama "reaching out" to republicans, please enlighten me as to what you are referring to? Because what I recall about Obama when the repubs were complaining about the stimulus bill is "I won".

You are in the vast minority....we do live in a democracy. Quit acting like a pathetic loser.