Joy-Riding in Air Force One

[Townsend]

Smear? I guess you mean the $150M for his inaugeration.

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_01/016501.php

So, how much did Bush's 2005 inauguration actually cost, using the standard the media is applying to Obama? Boehlert crunched the numbers and came up with a total of $157 million.

http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/01/apples_vs_orchards_comparing_i.php


When they cite the Bush inauguration cost as $40 million, they're talking about the cost of the inauguration parties - that is, the cost of the festivities themselves. That cost does not include security. It does not include the cost of paying police to shut down the city streets. It doesn't include the cost of cleaning up after the crowds. It's just the cost of the parties.

The Obama figure of $150-$160 million includes everything - police, security, setup, and cleanup.

A fair comparison? If you exclude the security costs, Bush's second inauguration cost $42 million; Obama's is expected to cost around $45 million. If you include the security costs, Bush's second inauguration cost somewhere around $155 million. (The exact figures are still not public knowledge; Bush and company treated it as a "national security matter" which did not need to be disclosed.)



I can site more of these...so let it go.  I'm sure you won't and just attack me personally because of you're personality and mommy/daddy issues but jeebus, I'm tired of the same crap you post every freaking day.

Every freaking day.

[guido911]

http://www.washingtonmonthly.com/archives/individual/2009_01/016501.php

So, how much did Bush's 2005 inauguration actually cost, using the standard the media is applying to Obama? Boehlert crunched the numbers and came up with a total of $157 million.

http://scienceblogs.com/goodmath/2009/01/apples_vs_orchards_comparing_i.php


When they cite the Bush inauguration cost as $40 million, they're talking about the cost of the inauguration parties - that is, the cost of the festivities themselves. That cost does not include security. It does not include the cost of paying police to shut down the city streets. It doesn't include the cost of cleaning up after the crowds. It's just the cost of the parties.

The Obama figure of $150-$160 million includes everything - police, security, setup, and cleanup.

A fair comparison? If you exclude the security costs, Bush's second inauguration cost $42 million; Obama's is expected to cost around $45 million. If you include the security costs, Bush's second inauguration cost somewhere around $155 million. (The exact figures are still not public knowledge; Bush and company treated it as a "national security matter" which did not need to be disclosed.)



I can site more of these...so let it go.  I'm sure you won't and just attack me personally because of you're personality and mommy/daddy issues but jeebus, I'm tired of the same crap you post every freaking day.

Every freaking day.

Boehlert, from Media Matters? Enough said.

[Townsend]

Boehlert, from Media Matters? Enough said.

Every freaking day...same spew.

Just come up with something new.  Contribute something meaningful. 

I still read your stuff but it's to get through it so as not to skip parts of threads.

[patric]

Who woulda thunk that a stimulus package for Hollywood would come in the form of cool special effects?

Good promo for the remake of "Escape from New York"

[guido911]

Here is an estimate of how much the photo op cost the U.S. taxpayers:

The report was prepared at the request of Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) while Democrats were in the minority. (Waxman is now chairman ofthe committee). Entitled "THE COST OF PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICAL TRAVEL," the report was clearly intended to criticize President Bush and Vice President Cheney's extensive travel around the country to campaign for Republicans in the midterm elections.

It reads in part: "This report assumes that flight operating costs are $56,518 per hour for Air Force One and $14,552 per hour for Air Force Two. These figures are based on the perhour cost figures cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000, adjusted for inflation."

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/04/28/how-much-did-the-nyc-flight-cost/

But hey, Obama was furious.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Here is an estimate of how much the photo op cost the U.S. taxpayers:

The report was prepared at the request of Rep. Henry Waxman (D-Calif.) while Democrats were in the minority. (Waxman is now chairman ofthe committee). Entitled "THE COST OF PRESIDENTIAL AND VICE
PRESIDENTIAL POLITICAL TRAVEL," the report was clearly intended to criticize President Bush and Vice President Cheney's extensive travel around the country to campaign for Republicans in the midterm elections.

It reads in part: "This report assumes that flight operating costs are $56,518 per hour for Air Force One and $14,552 per hour for Air Force Two. These figures are based on the perhour cost figures cited by GAO for fiscal year 2000, adjusted for inflation."

http://briefingroom.thehill.com/2009/04/28/how-much-did-the-nyc-flight-cost/

But hey, Obama was furious.

They did say that the airforce jet that took the pictures was a "training mission" to reduce the cost.

[Conan71]

Just technical point of order here.  The plane that terrorized citizens of NYC was NOT AF-1 so long as POTUS was not on-board.  AF-2 is not designated as AF-2 unless the VP is aboard.

That is all.  Please continue on with your argument already in progress.

[guido911]

Every freaking day...same spew.

Just come up with something new.  Contribute something meaningful. 

I still read your stuff but it's to get through it so as not to skip parts of threads.

What do you mean? I got hammered for linking to a story from Newsbusters. Media Matters is their "progressive" equivalent. Most every media outlet reported that Obama's inaugeration was the most expensive in history. But oh, Boehlert, a former writer for that hard-hitting new outlet Rolling Stone, is way smarter.

And another thing, here is Boehlert b*tching about the cost of Bush's second inaugeration:

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/20/media_on_inauguration

Where was his outrage over the expense of Obama's? crickets.

Is that meaningful enough for ya?

[Townsend]

Is that meaningful enough for ya?

No.  Explain your bitching about the cost of Obama's party and never bitching about Bush's.

If you can then I'll understand why you do it every day.

Bush's was the same cost but filed away as a ""national security matter" which did not need to be disclosed"

So let's move on and at least come up with a fresh topic to grumble about.  The party is not worth being brought up by an intelligent person.

If you say you don't have to explain yourself then you just lose.


edited to say: "grumble" mod?  Pancakes

[guido911]

No.  Explain your bitching about the cost of Obama's party and never bitching about Bush's.

If you can then I'll understand why you do it every day.

Bush's was the same cost but filed away as a ""national security matter" which did not need to be disclosed"

So let's move on and at least come up with a fresh topic to grumble about.  The party is not worth being brought up by an intelligent person.

If you say you don't have to explain yourself then you just lose.


edited to say: "grumble" mod?  Pancakes

moving along...

[Townsend]

moving along...

Finally.

Something new to grumble about.  I would've preferred they'd gotten a rescue for the family dog.

[Cats Cats Cats]

What do you mean? I got hammered for linking to a story from Newsbusters. Media Matters is their "progressive" equivalent. Most every media outlet reported that Obama's inaugeration was the most expensive in history. But oh, Boehlert, a former writer for that hard-hitting new outlet Rolling Stone, is way smarter.

And another thing, here is Boehlert b*tching about the cost of Bush's second inaugeration:

http://dir.salon.com/story/news/feature/2005/01/20/media_on_inauguration

Where was his outrage over the expense of Obama's? crickets.

Is that meaningful enough for ya?

I think you might be mistaking Townsend for the person that wrote that article.

[Wilbur]

Taking a picture of Air Force One over New York = $328,000

Photoshop = $350

Being a moron in government who doesn't know the difference = Priceless

[nathanm]

What's boring is your incessant spooning with Obama. Jeez, his airplane is flying low altitude over the city that suffered the most extreme act of terrorism this country has ever seen, with a military plane nearby.

8 bucking years ago. When will you terrah-screamers get over it?

I'd think you of all people would understand not freaking out at minor stimuli. People seem to be jumping out of their skin at relatively minor things these days. I regularly see low flying airplanes over my house, yet I manage not to think "oh noez, they be crashing into my buildingz!"

Hell, just between the cop chopper and the medevac units, hardly an hour goes by there isn't some aircraft flying low around here. That doesn't even begin to count the airliners.

This whole thing is being blown out of proportion by wingers looking to smear the administration (and if this is the best they can do, they must be running out of ammo) and by morons who can't get terra off their mind. Maybe if the new administration would continue toning the freakout speak down people will be able to go on with their lives without constant fear.

Maybe I'm just insensitive because I grasp that there will come a day that I will die and I'm ok with that.

[guido911]

8 frakking years ago. When will you terrah-screamers get over it?

I'd think you of all people would understand not freaking out at minor stimuli. People seem to be jumping out of their skin at relatively minor things these days. I regularly see low flying airplanes over my house, yet I manage not to think "oh noez, they be crashing into my buildingz!"

Hell, just between the cop chopper and the medevac units, hardly an hour goes by there isn't some aircraft flying low around here. That doesn't even begin to count the airliners.

This whole thing is being blown out of proportion by wingers looking to smear the administration (and if this is the best they can do, they must be running out of ammo) and by morons who can't get terra off their mind. Maybe if the new administration would continue toning the freakout speak down people will be able to go on with their lives without constant fear.

Maybe I'm just insensitive because I grasp that there will come a day that I will die and I'm ok with that.

Hear that Mayor Bloomberg, you notorious winger! Nate from Tulsa is telling you New Yorkers to stop complaining and overreacting. It's just terrah after all.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=-oQxH9J35T8&eurl=http%3A%2F%2Fhotair.com%2Farchives%2F2009%2F04%2F28%2Ffaa-memo-feds-knew-scare-force-one-would-cause-panic%2F&feature=player_embedded