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Started by guido911, April 27, 2009, 05:47:26 PM

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#45
April 30, 2009, 01:12:52 PM
People are not stupid or overly afraid that were freaked out by this.  They have learned from the past and took the appropriate actions to the perceived threat.  This isn't an LED sign in Boston or anything else that has electronics on it and a battery so it needs to be blown up.  I see no reason why anybody would assume (the public, building owners/security) that there should be a plan flying around downtown NY.  I would hope that we would evacuate the BOK tower if a 747 was flying around near the building.  I think in order for you to certify something as an irrational fear it has to have not happened to you before.

nathanm

#46
April 30, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
Quote from: Trogdor on April 30, 2009, 01:12:52 PM
I think in order for you to certify something as an irrational fear it has to have not happened to you before.
I've been in car wrecks before. Hell I've had multiple friends that have died in them on separate occasions. Despite that, I manage to go out and drive myself around in a relatively small car that would be flattened by some of the SUVs on the road.

Just because something has happened doesn't mean it's likely to recur. This is a point many otherwise intelligent people fail to grasp.

I would hope we wouldn't evacuate the BOk building just because a 747 or 767 or 777 was sighted nearby. That would be beyond ridiculous without some reason to think the aircraft was a threat beyond its just being in the vicinity.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

#47
April 30, 2009, 03:15:38 PM
Quote from: nathanm on April 30, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
I've been in car wrecks before. Hell I've had multiple friends that have died in them on separate occasions. Despite that, I manage to go out and drive myself around in a relatively small car that would be flattened by some of the SUVs on the road.

Just because something has happened doesn't mean it's likely to recur. This is a point many otherwise intelligent people fail to grasp.

I would hope we wouldn't evacuate the BOk building just because a 747 or 767 or 777 was sighted nearby. That would be beyond ridiculous without some reason to think the aircraft was a threat beyond its just being in the vicinity.

Being below 10,000 feet with an F-16 chasing it.  I think that about sums it up.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

FOTD

#48
April 30, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
What sums it up is the lengthy ridiculous comments...... :-\

custosnox

#49
April 30, 2009, 03:27:21 PM
Quote from: FOTD on April 30, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
What sums it up is the lengthy ridiculous comments...... :-\
I think I'll leave this one for others to expand on

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#50
April 30, 2009, 03:28:50 PM
Quote from: nathanm on April 30, 2009, 03:03:41 PM
I've been in car wrecks before. Hell I've had multiple friends that have died in them on separate occasions. Despite that, I manage to go out and drive myself around in a relatively small car that would be flattened by some of the SUVs on the road.

Right, but if you had an SUV changing lanes and stopping/speeding up randomly I would hope you would just pull over. (Which is the equivalent of what they did).  But maybe trying to secure your own safety is for the weak.

Gaspar

#51
April 30, 2009, 03:46:48 PM
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

nathanm

#53
April 30, 2009, 07:29:46 PM
Quote from: Gaspar on April 30, 2009, 03:15:38 PM
Being below 10,000 feet with an F-16 chasing it.  I think that about sums it up.

I should go hide now. I can't count the number of times I've seen military aircraft in the vicinity of large passenger jets since I moved closer to the airport.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

guido911

#54
April 30, 2009, 07:37:51 PM
Quote from: nathanm on April 30, 2009, 07:29:46 PM
I should go hide now. I can't count the number of times I've seen military aircraft in the vicinity of large passenger jets since I moved closer to the airport.

Was Tulsa the site of the greatest terror attack this country ever had and did that attack come in the form of large passenger jets flying low into Tulsa buildings? If the answer is no, then you have absolutely no frame of reference when New Yorkers panicked over what they saw.  You are talking out of your a$$, but you have a right to your opinion and I think we know it in this regard.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

#55
April 30, 2009, 11:10:43 PM
Quote from: guido911 on April 30, 2009, 07:37:51 PM
Was Tulsa the site of the greatest terror attack this country ever had and did that attack come in the form of large passenger jets flying low into Tulsa buildings? If the answer is no, then you have absolutely no frame of reference when New Yorkers panicked over what they saw.  You are talking out of your a$$, but you have a right to your opinion and I think we know it in this regard.
So because they were attacked once it logically follows that they will be attacked again? So if some white fringe nuts decide to truck bomb again, it will be in OKC?

Rationality is a precious commodity these days.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Gaspar

#56
May 01, 2009, 06:26:50 AM
Quote from: FOTD on April 30, 2009, 03:20:43 PM
What sums it up is the lengthy ridiculous comments...... :-\

That is without a doubt the funniest thing you have ever posted.
COMCLMAO
(Choked On My Coffee Laughing My @ss Off)
:D

Thanks man.
When attacked by a mob of clowns, always go for the juggler.

guido911

#57
May 05, 2009, 10:25:43 AM
Now it seems that the photos taken during that joy ride are now classified and will not be released:

http://www.redlasso.com/ClipPlayer.aspx?id=a8b9ea7b-871e-4202-a46c-129ac43256ab

Let's see, "torture" memos? Sure, let the public see those. Pictures taken on a 6 figure publicity jaunt at taxpayer expense? Not so much. Isn't transparency wonderful?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

cannon_fodder

#58
May 05, 2009, 11:03:12 AM
FWIW, if some international terrorists spends the better part of a decade planning, funding, and executing a massive strike on the United States and decides to strike Tulsa, OK . . . we should thank them. While clearly I don't want that to happen, it would be relatively better to attack Tulsa and killed ~1,000 people than the Sears Tower, Times Square on New Years, the San Francisco Bay during Fleet Week, a nuclear plant, a dam, or some HEAVILY populated areas and kill tens of thousands.  Should we consider it?  Absolutely.  Should we count on it?  No.  Is it likely?  No.

And if someone really wanted to ram a 747 into the BOK could we stop them?  Probably not.  I doubt the people on the plane would let it happen again, but that has nothing to do with our preparations.
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guido911

#59
May 06, 2009, 09:35:21 PM
As inevitable as can be, the New Yorkers frightened over Scare Force One thinking about a class action lawsuit.

http://www.kxmc.com/News/Nation/372308.asp

I empathized with them earlier in this thread, however this is over the top.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.
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