Old Collective,Ballers,Hardwood property

[BierGarten]

K Rahal does own a good deal of property in the Pearl,...

Is "K" still around?  I heard rumors a long time ago that he just up and disappeared one day never to be heard from again.  That rumor was from a band member whose band played there all the time.  He said that Eclipse essentially shut down because K vanished.  Is there any truth to that?

[JoeMommaBlake]

I don't know anything about him vanishing. I know that he is very much alive and around. He goes to the Pearl District Association Meetings.

As for Navarro's property, it's for lease....and his current office at 4th and the lots behind it are for sale.

[titan43112]

The Pearl has good bones and the development plans for the area make it very intriguing. The problem right now is that it's hard for most people to want to be the first ones in. The Eclipse is a great move because it's already worked there and it has a recognizable name. I have many fond memories of that place myself.

I don't know if its actually considered part of the Pearl or not, but I've always thought the Zelda's antique buildng on utica (7th? 8th? I think) would make a good bar/restraunt if the that disrtict ever caught on. I looks pretty bad though probably cost a fortune to renovate.

[jbk]

noticed some work being done on the inside (new bar on the food side)...anyone know what's going in!?

[cannon_fodder]

They've been working on it for several weeks now.  I need to stop and ask, but I haven't.  So no, I don't have any idea.

But I'd place money on that property being the most turned over business location in Tulsa over the last 7 years.

[FOTD]

They've been working on it for several weeks now.  I need to stop and ask, but I haven't.  So no, I don't have any idea.

But I'd place money on that property being the most turned over business location in Tulsa over the last 7 years.

You would think a great location. Ruined by parking and access issues.

[cannon_fodder]

It has an attached parking lot, public parking on the street around the corner, and a ready supply of customers within walking distance. For access it is on a 2 way street, 1 block off of a major intersection, 3 blocks from the interstate, and on a corner lot in a commercial area.

What are the parking and access issues?

[FOTD]

Sparty,

It's off the beaten path with no highway access. The few times the devils been by there it was not an easy parking situation during an event across the street. It's a dead zone otherwise.

It's an okay location for halftime cocktails. Gotta get our dose somehow.

Peace,

FOTD

[Conan71]

It has an attached parking lot, public parking on the street around the corner, and a ready supply of customers within walking distance. For access it is on a 2 way street, 1 block off of a major intersection, 3 blocks from the interstate, and on a corner lot in a commercial area.

What are the parking and access issues?

Residential neighbors don't like being a parking lot when there's a shortage of on-site parking.  A big part of the problem is, that was a janitorial supply company for as long as I can remember, and it was never designed to have 70-80 patrons in it at any given time.  Same problem Brookside homeowners have dealt with for years.

[cannon_fodder]

Sparty,

It's off the beaten path with no highway access. The few times the devils been by there it was not an easy parking situation during an event across the street. It's a dead zone otherwise.

It's an okay location for halftime cocktails. Gotta get our dose somehow.

While you raise some valid points, the Buck has NO parking and does just fine around the corner.  Down the street  The Colony has far less parking and similar highway access and is going great.  Down a few more blocks the Tindog lacks parking and does fine.  And the latter two are not next to 2,500 21-25 year olds 9 months of the year and neither is so close to a major intersection nor enjoys game day perks.

When there is a game on, no the parking is not good.  But the same can be said of anywhere in Norman, Stillwater, or nearly anywhere else with D-I athletics.  On those days the location is MUCH more of a positive than a negative.  $5 tall boys that cost you $1.50 to get out the door selling as fast as you can throw them at the crowds.

And parking in the neighborhood isn't particularly popular, but it has been a fact of life in that area for 80 years.  It is a fact of life in Brookside and Cherry Street too.  It is a fact of life in every major city in the United States.  In and of itself it isn't detrimental to the business location.

However, I wholeheartedly agree that I will miss my halftime fix at the Collective.

[kylieosu]

However, I wholeheartedly agree that I will miss my halftime fix at the Collective.

I definitely miss going and getting a Zingo for lunch at least once a week.

[FOTD]

Is "K" still around?  I heard rumors a long time ago that he just up and disappeared one day never to be heard from again.  That rumor was from a band member whose band played there all the time.  He said that Eclipse essentially shut down because K vanished.  Is there any truth to that?

Saw Kay last week and he is doing well....great family. His kids are amazing.

He is reopening Eclipse and Martinson and Teagarden are bringing their vibes there. K hopes to open an international quality restaurant next door. But the eatery is several months if not years away. Eclipse (or whatever they may call it) will reopen very soon.

[forrest]

Understand that its going to be a new Brookside by Day....bring somemore business to the hood..downtown doesnt need to get all the heat...

[TURobY]

Saw Kay last week and he is doing well....great family. His kids are amazing.

He is reopening Eclipse and Martinson and Teagarden are bringing their vibes there. K hopes to open an international quality restaurant next door. But the eatery is several months if not years away. Eclipse (or whatever they may call it) will reopen very soon.

In the meantime, they've been holding Mixtape Wednesdays at the Crystal Pistol. I believe they said the Eclipse should open July 1st.

[SXSW]

Understand that its going to be a new Brookside by Day....bring somemore business to the hood..downtown doesnt need to get all the heat...

That should do well there.