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Domestic Right Wing Terrorists!

Started by FOTD, May 31, 2009, 12:26:42 PM

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mr.jaynes

Quote from: FOTD on June 07, 2009, 07:06:43 PM
Anyone attend Church Sunday and get an earful about this issue? Highly doubtful. Not many posties attend church.

And some of the ones who do, tend to be some of those Dominionist churches or something else on the fringes of society.....

FOTD

'Weaponized Christianity' and 'homegrown terrorism'
http://www.examiner.com/examiner/x-10661-Pittsburgh-Grassroots-Examiner~y2009m6d7-Weaponized-Christianity-and-homegrown-terrorism


"Could these denunciations have a more practical basis, such as fear of asset forfeiture and/or jail time like the recent case against the Holy Land Foundation "under the "material support" provision of the Anti-terrorism and Effective Death Penalty Act, which provides that money in the hands of a terrorist organization, even if for charitable purposes, supports the organization's terrorist objectives" ? The protected status of Christianity in the US should not result in any more preferential treatment, and the assets of these groups should be seized. Environmental and animal rights groups are labeled as 'terrorists' for far less than what these kinds of militant theocrats advocate."


This is the first time the term Weaponized Christianity has been used, it fits. American-Taliban or Dominionists?

guido911

#47
My pro-life bona fides are well known in this forum, however I thought Tiller's murder was wrong. Still, Tiller was a scum bag and I will not lose any sleep over his assassination  abortion.

http://www.dr-tiller.com/botch-watch.htm

In other news, Cristen Gilbert, killed by Tiller, and Private William Long, murdered by a muslim convert, still dead.

UPDATED:  Here is a video of a follower of the religion of peace protesting at Pvt. Long's memorial service:

http://www.jihadwatch.org/archives/026475.php#respond

Another media whore on display.
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

FOTD

Guido, the woman rights basher and anti American constitution contributor, comes back to show the hate.


Look what your boy Olielly is up to....
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7205

The internet has made it possible to keep honesty alive in our society by exposing these frauds.

guido911

Quote from: FOTD on June 08, 2009, 02:53:41 PM
Guido, the woman rights basher and anti American constitution contributor, comes back to show the hate.


What about the rights of the woman Tiller killed? Also, since my wife and sisters (as well as millions of other women) are pro-life, they too must be women's rights bashers as well. Aborting Tiller is not the way to send the pro-life message, just as capital punishment is also inconsistent with being pro-life (in my opinion), but I have no complaints about his being off this planet. Good riddance to that scum bag.

Hey George, is it hot where you currently reside?
Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

Conan71

Quote from: FOTD on June 08, 2009, 02:53:41 PM
Guido, the woman rights basher and anti American constitution contributor, comes back to show the hate.


Look what your boy Olielly is up to....
http://www.bradblog.com/?p=7205

The internet has made it possible to keep honesty alive in our society by exposing these frauds.

Brought to you by FOTD, the dhimmicrat.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Quote from: guido911 on June 08, 2009, 03:18:50 PM
What about the rights of the woman Tiller killed? Also, since my wife and sisters (as well as millions of other women) are pro-life, they too must be women's rights bashers as well. Aborting Tiller is not the way to send the pro-life message, just as capital punishment is also inconsistent with being pro-life (in my opinion), but I have no complaints about his being off this planet. Good riddance to that scum bag.

Hey George, is it hot where you currently reside?

So, he's a scumbag for helping young women too shy to disclose they were raped through incest and too late to confess their shame? He was wrong for sparing the child of a life with aids or disablement? He was wrong for saving the woman but aborting a fetus?

Operation Rescue are terrorists. "On Wednesday, MSNBC news anchor Rachel Maddow revealed the ties between Dr. Tiller's alleged assassin Scott Roeder, to the extremist antiabortion group "Operation Rescue", and how he repeatedly got away with violating federal laws protecting abortion clinics."
http://www.truthdig.com/avbooth/item/20090604_maddow_exposes_scott_roeder/


Guido, you are so disingenuous to suggest you don't agree with his murder. Your rhetoric does not match up with your empathy. That's why you live a lie.


Conan71

Correction, Rachel Maddow is NOT an anchor, she's a commentator/news entertainer, just like O'Reilly, Beck,  Hannity, Olbermann, Matthews, Limbaugh, etc.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Quote from: Conan71 on June 08, 2009, 04:06:38 PM
Correction, Rachel Maddow is NOT an anchor, she's a commentator/news entertainer, just like O'Reilly, Beck,  Hannity, Olbermann, Matthews, Limbaugh, etc.

She is an anchor woman. Yes, an entertainer too. She is a truth teller. She does not promote hate.

Only a misogynist could twist it like that...


"A news presenter is, broadly speaking, a person that presents a news show on television, radio or the Internet. The term is not commonly used by people in the industry as they tend to use more descriptive - and sometimes country-specific - terms. Examples include "newsreader", "newscaster", and "news anchor"."
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/News_presenter

Conan71

Put the bong down for a second.  Maddow's show is NOT a NEWS SHOW.  It is political commentary, and no she doesn't promote hate, except for hate toward conservatives.

Considering the other five MALE commentators I likened her to, it's not even remotely misongyny.  You are the only person here who routinely posts op-ed columns as hard news.  So I guess this latest mis-characterization should come as no surprise.
"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

FOTD

Quote from: Conan71 on June 08, 2009, 04:29:39 PM
Put the bong down for a second.  Maddow's show is NOT a NEWS SHOW.  It is political commentary, and no she doesn't promote hate, except for hate toward conservatives.

Considering the other five MALE commentators I likened her to, it's not even remotely misongyny.  You are the only person here who routinely posts op-ed columns as hard news.  So I guess this latest mis-characterization should come as no surprise.

Conan the empty suit....the demon gets news from Rachel. Don't know what you get.

mr.jaynes

Quote from: guido911 on June 08, 2009, 12:42:11 PM
My pro-life bona fides are well known in this forum, however I thought Tiller's murder was wrong. Still, Tiller was a scum bag and I will not lose any sleep over his assassination  abortion.

Guido, in the context of this board, I cannot recall ever questioning or demenaing your intelligence: among some of the more virulent pro-lifers out there, you actually seem to be posessed of a higher level of intelligence. As such, I must say that although we do not always agree, I actually respect your opinion and your demonstrated capacity for rational thought (you'd said that you're an attorney, after all), and I suppose I'd prefer discussing the issue with you rather than with some of your more socially inept brethren in the pro-life movement. With that in mind, such emoting and histrionics over the issue should be ideally beneath you.

FOTD

#57
Quote from: mr.jaynes on June 08, 2009, 09:40:48 PM
Guido, in the context of this board, I cannot recall ever questioning or demenaing your intelligence: among some of the more virulent pro-lifers out there, you actually seem to be posessed of a higher level of intelligence. As such, I must say that although we do not always agree, I actually respect your opinion and your demonstrated capacity for rational thought (you'd said that you're an attorney, after all), and I suppose I'd prefer discussing the issue with you rather than with some of your more socially inept brethren in the pro-life movement. With that in mind, such emoting and histrionics over the issue should be ideally beneath you.

W_T_F? Jaynie, what planet are you on? Uranus?



mr.jaynes

Quote from: FOTD on June 08, 2009, 10:17:35 PM
W_T_F? Jaynie, what planet are you on? Uranus?

No, I'm on Earth.

Jaynie? Very cute :)

FOTD

This demon is old enough to recall the horror of the first terrorist in the USA to gain National attention as he picked off innocent victims from the University of Texas bell tower. Today, such behavior seems common place.

http://www.splcenter.org/intel/intelreport/article.jsp?aid=1052

As the first months of the Obama Administration unfold, a growing consensus is emerging that a resurgence of right-wing hate groups and radical ideas is spreading across the United States. Law enforcement officials, civil rights groups, and many others have all expressed worries about this troubling trend.
This February, in the last issue of the Intelligence Report, the Southern Poverty Law Center reported on the continued growth of hate groups, whose numbers have risen by more than 50% since 2000. It attributed that growth mainly to fears about non-white immigration, but pointed out that the rise of a black man to the White House also appears to have contributed. And it said the ongoing economic meltdown, which some have already blamed on racial minorities and undocumented Latino immigrants, could well add to a worsening situation.

Two months later, a Department of Homeland Security report, "Rightwing Extremism: Current Economic and Political Climate Fueling Resurgence in Radicalization and Recruitment," was leaked to the press. Dated April 7, the report mirrored many of the conclusions of the SPLC and added that "rightwing extremists [could] attempt to recruit and radicalize returning [military] veterans." (The Report has written extensively about the problem of extremists in the military.)

Already, there is evidence of the violence that an expansion of the radical right may portend. Some of it is chilling.

In late April, a man shot to death two Okaloosa County, Fla., sheriff's deputies responding to a domestic disturbance call. Officials said Joshua Cartwright was interested in militia groups and that his wife told police that he was "severely disturbed" by Obama's election.
Three days before the DHS report was issued, a gunman in Pittsburgh killed three police officers. Internet postings by the suspect in the months before the murders suggest the man was motivated by racist and anti-Semitic ideology, antigovernment conspiracy theories, and a fear that Obama would pass confiscatory gun laws.
Around the same time, a Marine who had earlier been arrested for armed robberies near Camp Lejeune, N.C., was indicted for threatening Obama. Kody Brittingham's journal allegedly contained neo-Nazi propaganda and a plan to assassinate the then president-elect.
On Jan. 21, the day after Obama's inauguration, a white man in Brockton, Mass., allegedly murdered two black people and planned to kill as many Jews as he could that night. Police said the man told them he'd been reading white supremacist websites and believed that whites were facing a genocide.
Last December, a woman who had just shot her husband to death in Belfast, Maine, told police that James Cummings was "very upset" with Obama's election, had been in touch with white supremacist groups, and had talked of building a "dirty bomb" chock full of deadly radioactive materials. Police found many of the components for that bomb, along with an application for the neo-Nazi National Socialist Movement filled out by Cummings.
And in late October, two racist skinheads were arrested in Tennessee and charged in connection with an alleged plot to murder more than 100 black Americans, beheading some of them, and then to assassinate Obama.
The government report was met with howls of outrage from pundits, politicians and others on the right who characterized it as an attack on conservatives and veterans — an absurd contention for anyone who actually read the document.

Televangelist Pat Robertson, the gay-bashing founder of the Christian Coalition, even said the DHS report "shows somebody down in the bowels of that organization is either a convinced left winger or somebody whose sexual orientation is somewhat in question."

These expressions of anger were disingenuous at best. The reality is that many of these same people have done their best to pour fuel on the flames of incipient antigovernment fury, feeding the same kind of white-hot popular anger that animated the militia movement of the 1990s, with all its violence.

MSNBC commentator Pat Buchanan recently said Obama would face a "bloodbath" if he legalized undocumented workers. U.S. Rep. Michele Bachmann (R-Minn.) fears Obama will set up "re-education camps for young people." U.S. Rep. Spencer Bachus (R-Ala.) warns there are 17 "socialists" in the Congress. FOX News' Glenn Beck calls Obama a fascist, a Nazi and a Marxist, and even refloated militia-era conspiracy theories about secret concentration camps for patriots.

People like Beck — who described himself as a mere "rodeo clown" when he was called out on such statements — may be craven opportunists pandering for ratings. It really doesn't matter. Their lunatic rants, planted in the rich soil of social discontent, make it that much harder for our country to advance toward a better future.