Domestic Right Wing Terrorists!

[FOTD]

Deranged on all counts...

[guido911]

More right wing terrorism, this time in Arkansas.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2009/dec/25/majors-shooting-tragedy-community-say-authorities/

[we vs us]

More right wing terrorism, this time in Arkansas.

http://www.arkansasonline.com/news/2009/dec/25/majors-shooting-tragedy-community-say-authorities/

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

[guido911]

I don't think that word means what you think it means.

Review some of the posts in this thread and how others define "terrorism" and I think you will see the point I was making.

O/T: In less than two months we have had two terrorist attacks in this country, neither of which fit within the profile the Homeland Security Department's "right wing extremists" warning. Remember this gem:

The Department of Homeland Security is warning law enforcement agencies that recent news is helping "right-wing extremist groups" recruit new members and could lead to violence, and warns about the possible recruitment and radicalization of returning veterans

http://www.foxnews.com/politics/2009/04/14/homeland-security-warns-rise-right-wing-extremism/

[FOTD]

Conviction angers anti-abortion militants
Some fear Scott Roeder's guilty verdict will embolden others to violence

http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/35162547/ns/us_news-crime_and_courts/

'Everybody is pretty angry'
The Rev. Donald Spitz, of Chesapeake, Va., who runs the Army of God Web site supporting violence against abortion providers, said the rejection of that argument has upset those who view Roeder as a hero.

"I know there is not a lot of good feeling out there — everybody is pretty angry," he said.

Spitz was the spiritual adviser to Paul Hill and was with him at his 2003 execution for the killing of a Florida abortion provider and a clinic escort in 1994, an event that led to a lull in violence at abortion clinics. While saying he knows nothing of impending plans by others against abortion doctors, Spitz scoffed at suggestions that Roeder's conviction will have a similar effect.

"Times change," Spitz said. "People are not as passive as they have been. They are more assertive."

"Network of extremists
Others are demanding a federal investigation and prosecution of what they claim is a network of extremists, citing Roeder's testimony that he talked to others about justifiable homicide of abortion doctors."

Sons of Terror

http://kmareka.com/2010/01/31/sons-of-terror/

" Good people can disagree. Dr. Tiller was murdered in church, where he served as an usher. Anti-abortion activists don't represent all Christians. Abortion is not an easy moral issue. People of conscience who oppose abortion can aid women in need and children in poverty, they can use their freedom of speech to persuade, they can vote as they choose. They should reject the criminals who are using this issue to continue the tradition of domestic terror in the name of patriotism."


Supporters of the convicted murderer of Dr. Tiller are terrorists in our midst.

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(Reuters) - The office of Representative Anthony Weiner on Thursday received a threatening letter containing an unidentified white powder, his office said.

http://www.reuters.com/article/idUSTRE62O4O920100325

And still, no outrage from our GOP operatives. Amazing. Tyrannical Repiglican politicians will continue to cause great pain to our nation.

[fotd]

Getting Scary Out There
Mar 29 2010, 8:15 AM ET
http://www.theatlantic.com/national/archive/2010/0%203/getting-scary-out-there/38063/

What we shall take as a given is the incredible vacuity of the opposition. By now, everyone is surely familiar with the dishonest, fear-mongering arguments peddled by opponents of health care reform; it shouldn't be necessary to rehearse (or refute) them here. I don't mean to suggest there weren't reasonable arguments to be made, merely that, by and large, and for whatever reason, they weren't. Instead, the other side chose the route of hyperbole and hysterical misrepresentation. Maybe because it had worked for them in the past.

Over-the-top opposition to President Obama has by no means been restricted to that one issue, of course. From the very start of this presidency --- from before the very start --- a moderately liberal Democrat whose political views (as distinct from his personality) are actually rather safely conventional, has been portrayed as a radical, a socialist, a communist, a crypto-terrorist, a Muslim, and of course an illegal alien pretender in our midst.

For elected officials who spew this line, it's hard to explain their behavior except by suspecting that they are exceptionally sore losers. It's just not credible that they don't know better. They lost control of the House and Senate in 2006, and they lost the presidency in 2008. Did they not expect there would be policy consequences? They can't seriously contrive to feel cheated --- to feel there was some sort of legislative legerdemain --- when a Democratic majority voted in favor of a policy advocated by Democrats for almost a century and proposed by a Democratic president. What did they think was going to happen? Opposition is one thing, but outraged accusations of Solonic malpractice are another. To the extent that they believe their own cant --- and it's quite likely that much of the indignation is feigned --- they must believe the country and its direction are theirs by divine right, and that any government, regardless of how legitimately elected and installed, with a different set of policies, constitutes a usurpation. Such a feeling would go some way toward explaining the grotesquerie of the Bush v. Gore decision back in 2000, as well as Republican responses to President Obama's recent attempts at bipartisanship, which their leadership appeared to interpret as an offer to cede decision-making in toto to the opposition caucus. And to feel aggrieved when that did not occur.

More disturbing still is the behavior of the Tea Partiers and their fellow-travelers. Their importance, and certainly their numbers, are absurdly exaggerated by the media. Why not? They make for a great story. But their capacity for mischief isn't dependent on the existence of vast hordes of like-minded comrades. Nor even on a coherent set of beliefs: one of the more disturbing things about the Tea Party movement is how ill-defined its credo actually is. Once you get past the slogans --- many of them drawn verbatim from Fox News talking points --- you look in vain for serious content. Yes, these people are mad as hell and they aren't going to take it anymore. No argument there. But they don't seem able to define with any precision what "it" is.

Those pictures of Obama with a Hitler mustache, or decorated with a hammer and sickle, or sporting a lipsticked Joker grin, do not exactly suggest a sophisticated understanding of either politics or history, nor a desire to engage in serious forensics. This very morning on NPR, I heard several interviews Ina Jaffe had conducted with people who had traveled to Searchlight, Nevada, to attend the big weekend Tea Party rally. One participant said of Harry Reid, "He's a traitor, really. He hates America, really." (Those "reallys" sure make his inanity more persuasive, don't they?) With someone like that, there isn't much point in sitting down for a frank exchange of views; reality itself is just a pesky inconvenience to such people. And if you factor in the recent death threats, and drawings of nooses sent to House and Senate members, and the spitting, and the shouts of "******" and "friendly fellow," you begin to grasp that this inchoate anger is all the more dangerous precisely because it isn't wedded to a recognizable set of political principles. It's just rage, free-floating and ready to blow. Rage that's been cultivated, guided, and validated by some of more irresponsible media stars on the right. With the shameful assistance and connivance of some elected officials.

Why is this scary? Haven't there always been nuts among us? Has not the invocation of Richard Hofstadter's "The Paranoid Style in American Politics" become a trusty, rusty cliche of liberal journalism, especially by those who haven't read it? Well, yes. But for those of us who recall President Clinton's first term, there is nothing innocuous about this sort of thing. A similar taint of illegitimacy had been attached to the Clinton presidency in some circles, with all sorts of wild rumors (no, not those rumors, I'm talking about ones that weren't true) given much wider currency than they ever merited. The flames were similarly fanned by voices in the right-wing media (some of them the same people who are active and influential today), and given official imprimatur by the likes of the late Congressman (her preferred title) Helen Chenoweth, who affirmed the existence of black helicopters being flown over Western skies by secret government agents, and Congressman Dan Burton, who famously put a lethal bullet through a cantaloupe to prove Vince Foster had been murdered (unless the melon had in some way insulted his honor, but if that's the case, he kept it to himself), to President George H. W. Bush, to Pat Buchanan, to Speaker of the House Newt Gingrich.

Small wonder that these beliefs began to seem plausible to the credulous, the alienated, the politically disappointed, and yes, thank you, Richard Hofstadter, the paranoid. And they gained momentum --- and a growing simulacrum of respectability --- during the first 15 months of Clinton's presidency, by which time they had reached a high-water mark. And what finally checked their growth and re-routed their course? Do a time line if you doubt me. It was Timothy McVey's bombing of the Alfred P. Murrah Federal Building in Oklahoma City. The reality of where all this anger could lead was a wake-up call, and America did wake up. We heard less of those insane fantasies after that. Until recently.

Would I blame the enablers if something terrible were to happen? Of course I would. They might bear no legal liability, and in any case, I'm enough of a First Amendment absolutist to feel great hesitation about criminalizing any speech that doesn't violate the "clear and present danger" doctrine. But would there be moral culpability? You bet there would. And maybe more...as far as I know, Slobodan Milosevic didn't personally pull any triggers either. It's a reckless game these people are playing.

And it's time to stop it. We shouldn't have to wait for the next Oklahoma City to dial things back. Because I'm willing to bet that at this very moment, creative variations of that Oklahoma City bombing are being planned all over the country, planned by people who believe that the Rush Limbaughs and the Glenn Becks of the world, and maybe the Sarah Palins and the Rick Perrys and the Joe Wilsons too, are secretly urging them on.


and in other news:

Tennessee man pleads guilty in plot against Obama


Mar 29, 8:24 PM (ET)

By SHEILA BURKE

JACKSON, Tenn. (AP) - A Tennessee man authorities say is a white supremacist has pleaded guilty to plotting to kill then-presidential candidate Barack Obama and dozens of other black people in 2008.

Twenty-one-year-old Daniel Cowart of Bells, Tenn., pleaded guilty Monday to eight of 10 counts in an indictment accusing him of conspiracy, threatening a presidential candidate and various federal firearms violations. Under a plea agreement, he faces 12 to 18 years in prison, but a federal judge could choose a longer sentence.

Co-defendant, 19-year-old Paul Schlesselman of Helena-West Helena, Ark., pleaded guilty in January and will be sentenced April 15.

Authorities have described the two as skinheads who planned a cross-country robbing and killing spree that would end with an attack on Obama.

[guido911]

But no mention of the arrest of a guy threatening to kill Repiglican Eric Cantor? Odd isn't it?

[fotd]

But no mention of the arrest of a guy threatening to kill Repiglican Eric Cantor? Odd isn't it?

really? http://www.margieburns.com/blog/_archives/2010/3/29/4492602.html

btw....another right wing (Jew hating) NUT!


I liked your other avatar better....

[fotd]

Every day now. GOP won't call off their dogs....

Nancy Pelosi Threatened: California Man Arrested For Health Care Reform Threats

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/07/nancy-pelosi-threatened-c_n_529139.html

[Conan71]

Every day now. GOP won't call off their dogs....

Nancy Pelosi Threatened: California Man Arrested For Health Care Reform Threats

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/2010/04/07/nancy-pelosi-threatened-c_n_529139.html

Where in that story did they mention this guy's political affiliation?

[fotd]

Coco, why has not one GOP leader said, "you nuts need to cut this crap out"?

They might offend their only base left?

[fotd]

If you fail to speak out against this stuff, then you are a McVeighite.

If you continue to ignore the under pinnings of this attitude, then you too are racist and ignorant.

[Conan71]

You are the only racist on here.

[fotd]

You are the only racist on here.

Look you drunk, you have no basis to say that.