We're Not A Christian Nation, We're One Of The Larger Muslim Nations

[Cats Cats Cats]

There is this whole realm of the English language that you just don't grasp.

"if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

The key word is we'd = we would

would: Indicating an action or state that is conditional on another.  

we're
Are:     to take place; happen; occur

So by replacing would be with we are you totally change the context of the sentence.  Which is what you ARE trying to do.

[Hoss]

There is this whole realm of the English language that you just don't grasp.

"if you actually took the number of Muslim Americans, we'd be one of the largest Muslim countries in the world".

The key word is we'd = we would

would: Indicating an action or state that is conditional on another.  

we're
Are:     to take place; happen; occur

So by replacing would be with we are you totally change the context of the sentence.  Which is what you ARE trying to do.

He probably thinks we're misunderestimating what he's trying to do....

[tim huntzinger]

Look, it is an ambiguous statement on an issue which does not do well with fuzziness.  Parse it like this: 'we would be' means that we are a Muslim nation, but just have not quantified how many Muslims live here.  Why not that?

[Cats Cats Cats]

Because are and would aren't the same word.

[jiminy]

Obviously he didn't mean we are a Muslim nation... what he meant to say in his signature clumsy way is that we have more Muslims than a lot of Muslim countries.  Of course, we still wouldn't be anywhere near "one of the largest Muslim" populations, but what can you do.  This is just the kind of thing we are going to have to learn to expect when Obama speaks sans teleprompter.  Better get used to it...

[Hoss]

Obviously he didn't mean we are a Muslim nation... what he meant to say in his signature clumsy way is that we have more Muslims than a lot of Muslim countries.  Of course, we still wouldn't be anywhere near "one of the largest Muslim" populations, but what can you do.  This is just the kind of thing we are going to have to learn to expect when Obama speaks sans teleprompter.  Better get used to it...

Think I'd take Obama sans prompter over Dubya being coached with a wire down the back of his coat any day of the week, and Dubya still lookin' lost!  harhar!

[Chicken Little]

He called us a Muslim nation.  What is hard about that?  Say he misstated his intented meaning or spoke awkwardly, but it is pretty stupid to say he did not say it at all.  Are you saying he did not say that?  What an ignorant thing to suggest!  Get ye back to talk of penny sales taxes!  You do know I did not start this thread, right?

And you surmise that BHO is a muslin, terrier-cavortin', Egyptan, jurrish, stem-stell, USA giver-awayer based on what? Contradictory evidence?  From the same story?

Don't get me wrong, we love to watch scaredy-cats go full-foam apoplectic over something like this; that's high comedy.  But you have to admit that your debate skills need honing.

[jiminy]

Think I'd take Obama sans prompter over Dubya being coached with a wire down the back of his coat any day of the week, and Dubya still lookin' lost!  harhar!

I dunno... when it comes to gaffes and mis-speaks I'd put Obama's 5-month-old body of work up against anybody's, including Bush.

[Hoss]

I dunno... when it comes to gaffes and mis-speaks I'd put Obama's 5-month-old body of work up against anybody's, including Bush.

But when your 'gaffes and mis-speaks' sound just like that -- gaffes and mis-speaks, as opposed to sounding like you have the education level of a cardboard box (Dubya)....I'd take the '5 month old body of work', thank you.

Keep tryin'.

[nathanm]

Obviously he didn't mean we are a Muslim nation... what he meant to say in his signature clumsy way is that we have more Muslims than a lot of Muslim countries.  Of course, we still wouldn't be anywhere near "one of the largest Muslim" populations, but what can you do.  This is just the kind of thing we are going to have to learn to expect when Obama speaks sans teleprompter.  Better get used to it...

Umm, given that there are over 200 countries in the world, I'd say being in the 30s is one of the largest, but what do I know? I guess you gotta be in the top 5 to count.

[Gaspar]

We WILL be one of the largest Muslim nations.

[we vs us]

Know Nothing:  The silliness of all this isn't the grammatical construction of the sentence, but what you think it means.  You think it means he's offered one of the earth's most diverse and unorganized populations -- muslims from Indonesia, China, Malaysia, Pakistan, Afghanistan, Uzbekistan, Iran, Iraq, Saudi Arabia, up through the countries of Europe, and the millions who live in the US -- to overrun us like hoardes of cockroaches.  Or maybe like Saracens from the middle ages, all on horseback, riding through town wielding scimitars and beheading all of our good Christian women and children.  You seem to think he's offered them a new homeland or something.  And that's where the sheer idiocy of this thread really lies.  You're lapsing back into World Conspiracy territory again which is somewhere I know you're comfortable going, but when you look logically at what you're insinuating, makes zero sense.

[cannon_fodder]

We [Americans] do not consider ourselves a Christian nation or a Jewish nation or a Muslim nation . . . .

Again, he specifically said we do not consider ourselves a Muslim nation.  People are just looking for things to be outraged about.   If he was in Rome he would say the USA has more Christians than any other nation.  If speaking to Jews he would probably say that the USA has more Jews than any nation but Israel.  In Armenia he'd point out we have more Armenian THAN Armenia . . .

HE was merely pandering to his audience.  Which is his job by and large.   IT wasn't a bold statement of policy.  A giant black stone to Allah isn't going to be placed on the National Mall.  I don't get the outrage.

But for the record, we are the 53rd largest "Muslim Nation" on Earth per Wikipedia .  Behind such powerhouse Muslim Nations as Russia, Mauritania, Burkina Faso, and Germany.  The claim was a little off . . .

[tim huntzinger]

Again, he specifically said we are one of the largest Muslim countries, just have not endeavored to do a proper head count.

[Townsend]

Again, he didn't.