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SINGLE PAYER IS THE ONLY HEALTHY SOLUTION

Started by FOTD, June 08, 2009, 03:45:44 PM

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Conan71

Quote from: nathanm on May 19, 2011, 02:07:58 PM
If I actually believed that, you might have a point, but as anyone who actually knows me is aware, I'm the first to point out that I don't in fact know everything about everything, as depressing as that fact is.

BTW, I am not going to let you get me down. I have 6 beers in front of me and it's snowing, so you know what to do. ;)

Conan, thanks for the Steamworks suggestion. They have some damn good beer.

If you get a chance, see if SWMBO will allow an hour or two at Pagosa Brewery.  Their grub is as good as the beer, I promise!

The Kolsch is a good one.  I liked it so well I bought the jersey:

"It has been said that politics is the second oldest profession. I have learned that it bears a striking resemblance to the first" -Ronald Reagan

guido911

Someone get Hoss a pacifier.

nathanm

Good to know. I have a couple of friends who cruise at least once a year and have never mentioned an upgrade or anything like that. I'll be sure to let them know so they can stop leaving perks on the table..
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

nathanm

Quote from: Conan71 on May 19, 2011, 02:53:15 PM
If you get a chance, see if SWMBO will allow an hour or two at Pagosa Brewery.  Their grub is as good as the beer, I promise!

The Kolsch is a good one.  I liked it so well I bought the jersey:



Agreed. The only one I didn't care for was, ironically, their namesake Steam Engine Ale.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Teatownclown

QuoteDemocrat To Offer A 'Lifeline' For Single-Payer Health Care

http://thinkprogress.org/health/2012/05/25/490429/mcdermott-universal-care-romney/

Rep. Jim McDermott (D-WA) will soon introduce legislation that would allow states to use federal funds they're receiving through Medicare, Medicaid, and other health care programs to build a universal single-payer system. Advocates are describing the bill as a "lifeline" for advocates:
It would create a mechanism for states to request federal funds after establishing their own health insurance programs.... It would, for the first time, create a system under which a Medicare-for-all program could be rolled out on a state-by-state basis. In California's case, it would make coverage available to the roughly 7 million people now lacking health insurance.
"This is a huge deal," said Jamie Court, president of Consumer Watchdog, a Santa Monica advocacy group. "This is a lifeline for people who want to create a Medicare system at the state level."
The bill could warm the hearts of liberals who expressed frustration with the Affordable Care Act's more moderate approach of building on the existing health care system and should also satisfy GOP presidential candidate Mitt Romney. The former Massachusetts governor has sought to differentiate his 2006 health reform from Obamacare by rejecting a federal prescription for reform and promising to "pursue policies that give each state the power to craft a health care reform plan that is best for its own citizens."
The ACA creates state flexibility by granting waivers to states that meet certain coverage standards and a bipartisan group of lawmakers has offered legislation expanding the provision by allowing states with innovative health care solutions to opt out of certain provisions beginning in 2014. Romney, meanwhile, has pledged to build on the ACA's flexibility and grant states to the ability to opt out of the law entirely.
McDermott's measure would go even further and encourage states to repurpose federal funds to build a universal single-payer health system of their own. If Republicans are truly interested in states rights, they will back it in mass.

States Rights....gotta love em....

This looks like preparation for when SCOTUS derails the law over their political agenda. I like the preparedness approach.

Let's see the GOP/Teabaggers lean towards furthering their American sabotage.

nathanm

I believe Vermont has been planning to do that all along.
"Labor is prior to and independent of capital. Capital is only the fruit of labor, and could never have existed if labor had not first existed. Labor is the superior of capital, and deserves much the higher consideration" --Abraham Lincoln

Teatownclown


I predicted this:


Supreme Irony: Would a 'single payer' health care plan be less vulnerable to the court than the Affordable Health Care Act?

http://news.yahoo.com/supreme-irony--would-a--single-payer--health-care-plan-be-less-vulnerable-to-the-court-than-the-affordable-health-care-act-.html

" it would be the simplest law in the world to enact. All the Congress would need to do is to take the Medicare law and strike out the words "over 65." ...."Medicare and Social Security are: the taxing power."  "(The remedy, of course, lies with the voters, who would be more than likely to send a powerful message at the next election, which is why the lack of constitutional limits on the taxing power do not lead to confiscatory rates.)"

RMoney pushed for individual mandate in Massachusetts health care law, emails show...