Sally Kern Makes National News Again

[tim huntzinger]

Personally, I don't think Jesus caused the recession and I don't think we should expose homosexuals and attack them.  I'll start there with items of disagreement.

She did not blame the Messiah for the recession, she blamed us for our lax morality.  Does morality only exist within a religious context? No? Yes?

I agree that singling out 'gay' marriage instead of no-fault divorce as a symptom and cause of our decline is a valid criticism.

[PonderInc]

Ooooh!  An entire month dedicated to an immoral behavior!  Sounds fun!  Which one, which one??!!  

Sex, dancing, or jazz music?

I like all three!

Or... is this the month when Oklahoma celebrates its own immorality?  When we celebrate our status as a leader of child abuse, domestic violence, teen pregnancy, female incarceration rates, uninsured citizens, teen dropouts, and bottom of the pay scale for teachers?  

Sally should start here.  (And she needs to focus her rage on the republicans in the legislature--like herself--who would rather stir up a bunch of religious mumbo jumbo than actually address any of these real problems.)

[Cats Cats Cats]

She did not blame the Messiah for the recession, she blamed us for our lax morality.  Does morality only exist within a religious context? No? Yes?

I agree that singling out 'gay' marriage instead of no-fault divorce as a symptom and cause of our decline is a valid criticism.

Her morality only exists within HER religious context.  

We should tell the drug cartels they will have less economic woes if they started a food bank instead of selling drugs.  Being that morality and economic success are so closely tied.

[Cats Cats Cats]

Ooooh!  An entire month dedicated to an immoral behavior!  Sounds fun!  Which one, which one??!!  

Sex, dancing, or jazz music?

I like all three!

Or... is this the month when Oklahoma celebrates its own immorality?  When we celebrate our status as a leader of child abuse, domestic violence, teen pregnancy, female incarceration rates, uninsured citizens, teen dropouts, and bottom of the pay scale for teachers?  

Sally should start here.  (And she needs to focus her rage on the republicans in the legislature--like herself--who would rather stir up a bunch of religious mumbo jumbo than actually address any of these real problems.)

To her she is starting there.  As soon as you get rid of all non-Christians and gay Christians the economy will be fixed.

[tim huntzinger]

Her morality only exists within HER religious context.  

We should tell the drug cartels they will have less economic woes if they started a food bank instead of selling drugs.  Being that morality and economic success are so closely tied.

Well sure but that is not what CF said she said.  More distortion and willful blasphemy.

So morality is defined strictly by the laws of the State?

[Cats Cats Cats]

Well sure but that is not what CF said she said.  More distortion and willful blasphemy.

So morality is defined strictly by the laws of the State?

She is blaming morality on economic woes.  On an individual basis morality has no bearing on earnings.  So there would have to be an outside force to "make it right" so to speak.

And as far as morality being defined strictly by the laws of the State.  The answer is no, but that is Sally Kern's whole goal.   To have the state laws define morality.

[Conan71]

Ooooh!  An entire month dedicated to an immoral behavior!  Sounds fun!  Which one, which one??!!  

Sex, dancing, or jazz music?

I like all three!

Post of the week. 

[cannon_fodder]

She did not blame the Messiah for the recession, she blamed us for our lax morality.  Does morality only exist within a religious context? No? Yes?

When you blame an economic recession on morality and then the rest of your documents makes sure everyone knows that Christianity and is the only right morality . . . you are saying that the economic recession is a result of people not following Christ enough.

WHEREAS, we believe our economic woes are consequences of our greater national moral crisis; and

WHEREAS, this nation has become a world leader in promoting abortion, pornography, same sex marriage, sex trafficking, divorce, illegitimate births, child abuse, and many other forms of debauchery; and

WHEREAS, alarmed that the Government of the United States of America is forsaking the rich Christian heritage upon which this nation was built; and

. . .

BE IT RESOLVED that we, the undersigned, humbly call upon Holy God, our Creator, Sustainer, and Redeemer, to have mercy on this nation, to stay His hand of judgment, and grant a national awakening of righteousness and Christian renewal as we repent of our great sin.

The economic woes are a consequence of our lack of morals.
The United States morals are Christian Morals.
The economic crisis is because we lack Christian morals.

Ergo:  Jesus is punishing us for not liking him enough by destroying our economy.  Thanks Jesus!

And no.  As I stated before morality does not only exist within a religious context.   But that document is as religious as it could possibly be.  If the Lords Prayer referenced morality, I would assume it meant religiosity.  So I shall assume when Ms. Kern references morality in her "Oklahoma Citizen's Proclamation For Morality".  If she had it her way it would be the new law of the land and we could finally expel the non-believers.

Your argument is that the document isn't inherently religious and she is referencing morality outside the context of her Christian faith?  She then asks the Christian god to hold back his hand from further smiting us for our wickedness . . . but that and the other ~40 or so references to Christian doctrine surely don't reflect on the one sentence you wish to exclude.

Sorry, the woman thinks the economic crisis is caused by not enough people hating gays.  She's farkin' crazy.  The only press Oklahoma gets in the last few years is religious zealots and towns tainted with lead.

[guido911]

The only press Oklahoma gets in the last few years is religious zealots and towns tainted with lead.

Yeah, those OU National Championship game and Bradford's Heisman trophy and David Cook "American Idol" things went ignored by the media...

[Conan71]

Now watch, she will get caught up in some lesbian love-triangle.

[Townsend]

Now watch, she will get caught up in some lesbian love-triangle.

With whom?  We can start the rumors here.

[Conan71]

With whom?  We can start the rumors here.

[Townsend]

Hot

[swake]

Now watch, she will get caught up in some lesbian love-triangle.

no no, you have it all wrong. She WAS a gay man, now she's a post-op transexual straight woman, just the way God intended. (please don't tell her husband)

[patric]

The only press Oklahoma gets in the last few years is religious zealots and towns tainted with lead.

And our rowdy cops....

" Two Oklahoma City police officers are under investigation after witnesses said one of the officers fired a shot from a vehicle outside a strip club.

Witnesses said an argument inside the club ended with two officers who were not on duty getting into their vehicle, and one of the officers holding a pistol outside the window and firing it into the ground. "